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All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test

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    Have Waikato been asked to urgently arrange a match against a neighbour so that DMac can run on for 10 minutes?
    Surely 'special circumstances' apply when your squad is decimated.

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    • CrucialC Crucial

      Have Waikato been asked to urgently arrange a match against a neighbour so that DMac can run on for 10 minutes?
      Surely 'special circumstances' apply when your squad is decimated.

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      @Crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

      Have Waikato been asked to urgently arrange a match against a neighbour so that DMac can run on for 10 minutes?
      Surely 'special circumstances' apply when your squad is decimated.

      Got both tens, and it is not even decimated in the traditional sense, yet.

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        @Chris-B said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

        Will Jordan gone with covid!!!

        Now it's getting serious!

        Thought he'd be able to outpace it. Disappointed.

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        @Frank said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

        @Chris-B said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

        Will Jordan gone with covid!!!

        Now it's getting serious!

        Thought he'd be able to outpace it. Disappointed.

        Longer than everyone but 2 in the squad. AMazing how fat fozzie managed it for so long, just behind Jordan! 😛

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        • TimT Tim

          @Duluth If all the mentioned players are out then you might see something like this:

          1 Ross
          2 Taylor
          3 Laulala
          4 Retallick
          5 Whitelock
          6 Ioane
          7 Cane
          8 Savea
          9 Christie
          10 Barrett
          11 Clarke
          12 RTS
          13 Ioane
          14 Reece
          15 Perofeta

          16 Taukei'aho
          17 Tu'inukuafe
          18 Tu'ungafasi
          19 Barrett
          20 Papalii
          21 Fakatava
          22 Mo'unga
          23 Fainga'anuku

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          Crucial
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          @Tim said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

          @Duluth If all the mentioned players are out then you might see something like this:

          1 Ross
          2 Taylor
          3 Laulala
          4 Retallick
          5 Whitelock
          6 Ioane
          7 Cane
          8 Savea
          9 Christie
          10 Barrett
          11 Clarke
          12 RTS
          13 Ioane
          14 Reece
          15 Perofeta

          16 Taukei'aho
          17 Tu'inukuafe
          18 Tu'ungafasi
          19 Barrett
          20 Papalii
          21 Fakatava
          22 Mo'unga
          23 Fainga'anuku

          This lineup starting to look very close. I would swap the hookers around starting/bench altough it's still possible Bower is there over Ross.
          Would loosehead/hooker combos be the way to go?

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          • CrucialC Crucial

            @Tim said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

            @Duluth If all the mentioned players are out then you might see something like this:

            1 Ross
            2 Taylor
            3 Laulala
            4 Retallick
            5 Whitelock
            6 Ioane
            7 Cane
            8 Savea
            9 Christie
            10 Barrett
            11 Clarke
            12 RTS
            13 Ioane
            14 Reece
            15 Perofeta

            16 Taukei'aho
            17 Tu'inukuafe
            18 Tu'ungafasi
            19 Barrett
            20 Papalii
            21 Fakatava
            22 Mo'unga
            23 Fainga'anuku

            This lineup starting to look very close. I would swap the hookers around starting/bench altough it's still possible Bower is there over Ross.
            Would loosehead/hooker combos be the way to go?

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            #131

            @Crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

            @Tim said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

            @Duluth If all the mentioned players are out then you might see something like this:

            1 Ross
            2 Taylor
            3 Laulala
            4 Retallick
            5 Whitelock
            6 Ioane
            7 Cane
            8 Savea
            9 Christie
            10 Barrett
            11 Clarke
            12 RTS
            13 Ioane
            14 Reece
            15 Perofeta

            16 Taukei'aho
            17 Tu'inukuafe
            18 Tu'ungafasi
            19 Barrett
            20 Papalii
            21 Fakatava
            22 Mo'unga
            23 Fainga'anuku

            This lineup starting to look very close. I would swap the hookers around starting/bench altough it's still possible Bower is there over Ross.
            Would loosehead/hooker combos be the way to go?

            Can’t do that, would break the rule that if you have a ‘ in your name you gotta be on the bench

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              @Crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

              @Tim said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

              @Duluth If all the mentioned players are out then you might see something like this:

              1 Ross
              2 Taylor
              3 Laulala
              4 Retallick
              5 Whitelock
              6 Ioane
              7 Cane
              8 Savea
              9 Christie
              10 Barrett
              11 Clarke
              12 RTS
              13 Ioane
              14 Reece
              15 Perofeta

              16 Taukei'aho
              17 Tu'inukuafe
              18 Tu'ungafasi
              19 Barrett
              20 Papalii
              21 Fakatava
              22 Mo'unga
              23 Fainga'anuku

              This lineup starting to look very close. I would swap the hookers around starting/bench altough it's still possible Bower is there over Ross.
              Would loosehead/hooker combos be the way to go?

              Can’t do that, would break the rule that if you have a ‘ in your name you gotta be on the bench

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              Crucial
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              #132

              @Machpants said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

              @Crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

              @Tim said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

              @Duluth If all the mentioned players are out then you might see something like this:

              1 Ross
              2 Taylor
              3 Laulala
              4 Retallick
              5 Whitelock
              6 Ioane
              7 Cane
              8 Savea
              9 Christie
              10 Barrett
              11 Clarke
              12 RTS
              13 Ioane
              14 Reece
              15 Perofeta

              16 Taukei'aho
              17 Tu'inukuafe
              18 Tu'ungafasi
              19 Barrett
              20 Papalii
              21 Fakatava
              22 Mo'unga
              23 Fainga'anuku

              This lineup starting to look very close. I would swap the hookers around starting/bench altough it's still possible Bower is there over Ross.
              Would loosehead/hooker combos be the way to go?

              Can’t do that, would break the rule that if you have a ‘ in your name you gotta be on the bench

              Scott Bar'ret?

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              • CrucialC Crucial

                @Machpants said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                @Crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                @Tim said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                @Duluth If all the mentioned players are out then you might see something like this:

                1 Ross
                2 Taylor
                3 Laulala
                4 Retallick
                5 Whitelock
                6 Ioane
                7 Cane
                8 Savea
                9 Christie
                10 Barrett
                11 Clarke
                12 RTS
                13 Ioane
                14 Reece
                15 Perofeta

                16 Taukei'aho
                17 Tu'inukuafe
                18 Tu'ungafasi
                19 Barrett
                20 Papalii
                21 Fakatava
                22 Mo'unga
                23 Fainga'anuku

                This lineup starting to look very close. I would swap the hookers around starting/bench altough it's still possible Bower is there over Ross.
                Would loosehead/hooker combos be the way to go?

                Can’t do that, would break the rule that if you have a ‘ in your name you gotta be on the bench

                Scott Bar'ret?

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                #133

                @Crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                @Machpants said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                @Crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                @Tim said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                @Duluth If all the mentioned players are out then you might see something like this:

                1 Ross
                2 Taylor
                3 Laulala
                4 Retallick
                5 Whitelock
                6 Ioane
                7 Cane
                8 Savea
                9 Christie
                10 Barrett
                11 Clarke
                12 RTS
                13 Ioane
                14 Reece
                15 Perofeta

                16 Taukei'aho
                17 Tu'inukuafe
                18 Tu'ungafasi
                19 Barrett
                20 Papalii
                21 Fakatava
                22 Mo'unga
                23 Fainga'anuku

                This lineup starting to look very close. I would swap the hookers around starting/bench altough it's still possible Bower is there over Ross.
                Would loosehead/hooker combos be the way to go?

                Can’t do that, would break the rule that if you have a ‘ in your name you gotta be on the bench

                Scott Bar'ret?

                The ' stands for card (colour dependant on the occasion).

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                • CrucialC Crucial

                  @Machpants said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                  @Crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                  @Tim said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                  @Duluth If all the mentioned players are out then you might see something like this:

                  1 Ross
                  2 Taylor
                  3 Laulala
                  4 Retallick
                  5 Whitelock
                  6 Ioane
                  7 Cane
                  8 Savea
                  9 Christie
                  10 Barrett
                  11 Clarke
                  12 RTS
                  13 Ioane
                  14 Reece
                  15 Perofeta

                  16 Taukei'aho
                  17 Tu'inukuafe
                  18 Tu'ungafasi
                  19 Barrett
                  20 Papalii
                  21 Fakatava
                  22 Mo'unga
                  23 Fainga'anuku

                  This lineup starting to look very close. I would swap the hookers around starting/bench altough it's still possible Bower is there over Ross.
                  Would loosehead/hooker combos be the way to go?

                  Can’t do that, would break the rule that if you have a ‘ in your name you gotta be on the bench

                  Scott Bar'ret?

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                  #134

                  @Crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                  @Machpants said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                  @Crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                  @Tim said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                  @Duluth If all the mentioned players are out then you might see something like this:

                  1 Ross
                  2 Taylor
                  3 Laulala
                  4 Retallick
                  5 Whitelock
                  6 Ioane
                  7 Cane
                  8 Savea
                  9 Christie
                  10 Barrett
                  11 Clarke
                  12 RTS
                  13 Ioane
                  14 Reece
                  15 Perofeta

                  16 Taukei'aho
                  17 Tu'inukuafe
                  18 Tu'ungafasi
                  19 Barrett
                  20 Papalii
                  21 Fakatava
                  22 Mo'unga
                  23 Fainga'anuku

                  This lineup starting to look very close. I would swap the hookers around starting/bench altough it's still possible Bower is there over Ross.
                  Would loosehead/hooker combos be the way to go?

                  Can’t do that, would break the rule that if you have a ‘ in your name you gotta be on the bench

                  Scott Bar'ret?

                  Note I didn’t say you have to have one, just if you do you’re bench warming. RTS is on thin ice with his -

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                    Steven Harris
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                    #135

                    All these players going down with COVID

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                      When did Caleb Clarke last play a game?

                      I guess he played between getting red carded and getting injured?

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                      • Chris B.C Chris B.

                        When did Caleb Clarke last play a game?

                        I guess he played between getting red carded and getting injured?

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                        @Chris-B said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                        When did Caleb Clarke last play a game?

                        I guess he played between getting red carded and getting injured?

                        Brumbies 2nd last regular season game. Blew his hamstring out in the second half.

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                        • Chris B.C Chris B.

                          Will Jordan gone with covid!!!

                          Now it's getting serious!

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                          @Chris-B said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                          Will Jordan gone with covid!!!

                          Now it's getting serious!

                          Annoying. Jordan was awesome last year, and after his Super form I was looking forward to him absolutely fucking carving up this year. Hope he recovers for test 2.

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                            @Chris-B said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                            Will Jordan gone with covid!!!

                            Now it's getting serious!

                            Annoying. Jordan was awesome last year, and after his Super form I was looking forward to him absolutely fucking carving up this year. Hope he recovers for test 2.

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                            @No-Quarter Yeah - with CC not having played in a while and Leicester being an absolute rookie, I was pretty sure they were planning to start Reece and Jordan on the wings (unless the outlier of playing Goodhue at centre and shifting Rieko out) and maybe ease Clarke in from the bench.

                            Now the options are pretty narrow.

                            A big test for Leicester to make his debut in, so it won't surprise me to see Ennor in the 23.

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                                With all these issues coming through this is what I think might be the announced team.

                                1 Bower
                                2 Taylor
                                3 Laulala
                                4 Retallick
                                5 Whitelock
                                6 Vaa'i
                                7 Cane
                                8 Savea
                                9 Christie
                                10 Barrett
                                11 Fainga’anuku
                                12 Tupaea
                                13 Ioane
                                14 Reece
                                15 J Barrett

                                16 Taukei'aho
                                17 Tu'inukuafe
                                18 Tu'ungafasi
                                19 Barrett
                                20 Sotutu (or Akira)
                                21 Fakatava
                                22 Mo'unga
                                23 Perofeta (or Ennor)

                                Obviously I would have probably missed some injuries and/or health issues. But from what info I've come across this is what I think could happen.

                                I chose QT as 2nd 5 and he can be covered by J Barrett and Fainga’anuku which is why I've put Perofeta at 23 to cover 15 if needed. But that's probably asking a lot from them so I'd have Ennor at 23 as an option too. I can see RTS playing later on in the series, just not the first game, but you never know.

                                I've also added Vaa'i at 6 even though he mainly plays lock because he's had a good season and can bring a punch. Nothing against Akira. The man's a beast too.

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                                  With all these issues coming through this is what I think might be the announced team.

                                  1 Bower
                                  2 Taylor
                                  3 Laulala
                                  4 Retallick
                                  5 Whitelock
                                  6 Vaa'i
                                  7 Cane
                                  8 Savea
                                  9 Christie
                                  10 Barrett
                                  11 Fainga’anuku
                                  12 Tupaea
                                  13 Ioane
                                  14 Reece
                                  15 J Barrett

                                  16 Taukei'aho
                                  17 Tu'inukuafe
                                  18 Tu'ungafasi
                                  19 Barrett
                                  20 Sotutu (or Akira)
                                  21 Fakatava
                                  22 Mo'unga
                                  23 Perofeta (or Ennor)

                                  Obviously I would have probably missed some injuries and/or health issues. But from what info I've come across this is what I think could happen.

                                  I chose QT as 2nd 5 and he can be covered by J Barrett and Fainga’anuku which is why I've put Perofeta at 23 to cover 15 if needed. But that's probably asking a lot from them so I'd have Ennor at 23 as an option too. I can see RTS playing later on in the series, just not the first game, but you never know.

                                  I've also added Vaa'i at 6 even though he mainly plays lock because he's had a good season and can bring a punch. Nothing against Akira. The man's a beast too.

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                                  @ThecostlyJoel Welcome to the Fern! :waving_hand:

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                                    With all these issues coming through this is what I think might be the announced team.

                                    1 Bower
                                    2 Taylor
                                    3 Laulala
                                    4 Retallick
                                    5 Whitelock
                                    6 Vaa'i
                                    7 Cane
                                    8 Savea
                                    9 Christie
                                    10 Barrett
                                    11 Fainga’anuku
                                    12 Tupaea
                                    13 Ioane
                                    14 Reece
                                    15 J Barrett

                                    16 Taukei'aho
                                    17 Tu'inukuafe
                                    18 Tu'ungafasi
                                    19 Barrett
                                    20 Sotutu (or Akira)
                                    21 Fakatava
                                    22 Mo'unga
                                    23 Perofeta (or Ennor)

                                    Obviously I would have probably missed some injuries and/or health issues. But from what info I've come across this is what I think could happen.

                                    I chose QT as 2nd 5 and he can be covered by J Barrett and Fainga’anuku which is why I've put Perofeta at 23 to cover 15 if needed. But that's probably asking a lot from them so I'd have Ennor at 23 as an option too. I can see RTS playing later on in the series, just not the first game, but you never know.

                                    I've also added Vaa'i at 6 even though he mainly plays lock because he's had a good season and can bring a punch. Nothing against Akira. The man's a beast too.

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                                    @ThecostlyJoel Welcome Joel!

                                    Crikey - the backs look a bit Super rugby level to me - strong Super rugby, but a bit short of Big All Black test level!

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                                      @ThecostlyJoel Welcome to the Fern! :waving_hand:

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                                      @Stargazer said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                      @ThecostlyJoel Welcome to the Fern! :waving_hand:

                                      Thanks for having me. Seems like a good place to discuss NZ rugby.

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                                      • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                        @ThecostlyJoel Welcome Joel!

                                        Crikey - the backs look a bit Super rugby level to me - strong Super rugby, but a bit short of Big All Black test level!

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                                        @Chris-B said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                        @ThecostlyJoel Welcome Joel!

                                        Crikey - the backs look a bit Super rugby level to me - strong Super rugby, but a bit short of Big All Black test level!

                                        how good would it be if they clicked though!

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                                        • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                          @ThecostlyJoel Welcome Joel!

                                          Crikey - the backs look a bit Super rugby level to me - strong Super rugby, but a bit short of Big All Black test level!

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                                          @Chris-B said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                          @ThecostlyJoel Welcome Joel!

                                          Crikey - the backs look a bit Super rugby level to me - strong Super rugby, but a bit short of Big All Black test level!

                                          Yeah I completely understand. My original back line up from the start of the month was Clarke, Goodhue, R Ioane, Reece and Jordan. But with how things went and are going this didn't really become an option. Even for Clarke, I'd rather have him rest up longer for the later games in the series before putting him on the field.

                                          And Reece has been amazing this year, both with playing and keeping his team mates moral high during games which I think we definitely need even if it's a losing battle.

                                          Reece over J Barrett, just because I think that J Barrett will have more of an impact off the bench.

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