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All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test

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  • CrucialC Crucial

    @Machpants said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Tim said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Duluth If all the mentioned players are out then you might see something like this:

    1 Ross
    2 Taylor
    3 Laulala
    4 Retallick
    5 Whitelock
    6 Ioane
    7 Cane
    8 Savea
    9 Christie
    10 Barrett
    11 Clarke
    12 RTS
    13 Ioane
    14 Reece
    15 Perofeta

    16 Taukei'aho
    17 Tu'inukuafe
    18 Tu'ungafasi
    19 Barrett
    20 Papalii
    21 Fakatava
    22 Mo'unga
    23 Fainga'anuku

    This lineup starting to look very close. I would swap the hookers around starting/bench altough it's still possible Bower is there over Ross.
    Would loosehead/hooker combos be the way to go?

    Can’t do that, would break the rule that if you have a ‘ in your name you gotta be on the bench

    Scott Bar'ret?

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    @Crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Machpants said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Tim said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Duluth If all the mentioned players are out then you might see something like this:

    1 Ross
    2 Taylor
    3 Laulala
    4 Retallick
    5 Whitelock
    6 Ioane
    7 Cane
    8 Savea
    9 Christie
    10 Barrett
    11 Clarke
    12 RTS
    13 Ioane
    14 Reece
    15 Perofeta

    16 Taukei'aho
    17 Tu'inukuafe
    18 Tu'ungafasi
    19 Barrett
    20 Papalii
    21 Fakatava
    22 Mo'unga
    23 Fainga'anuku

    This lineup starting to look very close. I would swap the hookers around starting/bench altough it's still possible Bower is there over Ross.
    Would loosehead/hooker combos be the way to go?

    Can’t do that, would break the rule that if you have a ‘ in your name you gotta be on the bench

    Scott Bar'ret?

    The ' stands for card (colour dependant on the occasion).

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    • CrucialC Crucial

      @Machpants said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

      @Crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

      @Tim said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

      @Duluth If all the mentioned players are out then you might see something like this:

      1 Ross
      2 Taylor
      3 Laulala
      4 Retallick
      5 Whitelock
      6 Ioane
      7 Cane
      8 Savea
      9 Christie
      10 Barrett
      11 Clarke
      12 RTS
      13 Ioane
      14 Reece
      15 Perofeta

      16 Taukei'aho
      17 Tu'inukuafe
      18 Tu'ungafasi
      19 Barrett
      20 Papalii
      21 Fakatava
      22 Mo'unga
      23 Fainga'anuku

      This lineup starting to look very close. I would swap the hookers around starting/bench altough it's still possible Bower is there over Ross.
      Would loosehead/hooker combos be the way to go?

      Can’t do that, would break the rule that if you have a ‘ in your name you gotta be on the bench

      Scott Bar'ret?

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      @Crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

      @Machpants said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

      @Crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

      @Tim said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

      @Duluth If all the mentioned players are out then you might see something like this:

      1 Ross
      2 Taylor
      3 Laulala
      4 Retallick
      5 Whitelock
      6 Ioane
      7 Cane
      8 Savea
      9 Christie
      10 Barrett
      11 Clarke
      12 RTS
      13 Ioane
      14 Reece
      15 Perofeta

      16 Taukei'aho
      17 Tu'inukuafe
      18 Tu'ungafasi
      19 Barrett
      20 Papalii
      21 Fakatava
      22 Mo'unga
      23 Fainga'anuku

      This lineup starting to look very close. I would swap the hookers around starting/bench altough it's still possible Bower is there over Ross.
      Would loosehead/hooker combos be the way to go?

      Can’t do that, would break the rule that if you have a ‘ in your name you gotta be on the bench

      Scott Bar'ret?

      Note I didn’t say you have to have one, just if you do you’re bench warming. RTS is on thin ice with his -

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        All these players going down with COVID

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          When did Caleb Clarke last play a game?

          I guess he played between getting red carded and getting injured?

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          • Chris B.C Chris B.

            When did Caleb Clarke last play a game?

            I guess he played between getting red carded and getting injured?

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            @Chris-B said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

            When did Caleb Clarke last play a game?

            I guess he played between getting red carded and getting injured?

            Brumbies 2nd last regular season game. Blew his hamstring out in the second half.

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            • Chris B.C Chris B.

              Will Jordan gone with covid!!!

              Now it's getting serious!

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              @Chris-B said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

              Will Jordan gone with covid!!!

              Now it's getting serious!

              Annoying. Jordan was awesome last year, and after his Super form I was looking forward to him absolutely fucking carving up this year. Hope he recovers for test 2.

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              • No QuarterN No Quarter

                @Chris-B said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                Will Jordan gone with covid!!!

                Now it's getting serious!

                Annoying. Jordan was awesome last year, and after his Super form I was looking forward to him absolutely fucking carving up this year. Hope he recovers for test 2.

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                @No-Quarter Yeah - with CC not having played in a while and Leicester being an absolute rookie, I was pretty sure they were planning to start Reece and Jordan on the wings (unless the outlier of playing Goodhue at centre and shifting Rieko out) and maybe ease Clarke in from the bench.

                Now the options are pretty narrow.

                A big test for Leicester to make his debut in, so it won't surprise me to see Ennor in the 23.

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                    With all these issues coming through this is what I think might be the announced team.

                    1 Bower
                    2 Taylor
                    3 Laulala
                    4 Retallick
                    5 Whitelock
                    6 Vaa'i
                    7 Cane
                    8 Savea
                    9 Christie
                    10 Barrett
                    11 Fainga’anuku
                    12 Tupaea
                    13 Ioane
                    14 Reece
                    15 J Barrett

                    16 Taukei'aho
                    17 Tu'inukuafe
                    18 Tu'ungafasi
                    19 Barrett
                    20 Sotutu (or Akira)
                    21 Fakatava
                    22 Mo'unga
                    23 Perofeta (or Ennor)

                    Obviously I would have probably missed some injuries and/or health issues. But from what info I've come across this is what I think could happen.

                    I chose QT as 2nd 5 and he can be covered by J Barrett and Fainga’anuku which is why I've put Perofeta at 23 to cover 15 if needed. But that's probably asking a lot from them so I'd have Ennor at 23 as an option too. I can see RTS playing later on in the series, just not the first game, but you never know.

                    I've also added Vaa'i at 6 even though he mainly plays lock because he's had a good season and can bring a punch. Nothing against Akira. The man's a beast too.

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                    • T ThecostlyJoel

                      With all these issues coming through this is what I think might be the announced team.

                      1 Bower
                      2 Taylor
                      3 Laulala
                      4 Retallick
                      5 Whitelock
                      6 Vaa'i
                      7 Cane
                      8 Savea
                      9 Christie
                      10 Barrett
                      11 Fainga’anuku
                      12 Tupaea
                      13 Ioane
                      14 Reece
                      15 J Barrett

                      16 Taukei'aho
                      17 Tu'inukuafe
                      18 Tu'ungafasi
                      19 Barrett
                      20 Sotutu (or Akira)
                      21 Fakatava
                      22 Mo'unga
                      23 Perofeta (or Ennor)

                      Obviously I would have probably missed some injuries and/or health issues. But from what info I've come across this is what I think could happen.

                      I chose QT as 2nd 5 and he can be covered by J Barrett and Fainga’anuku which is why I've put Perofeta at 23 to cover 15 if needed. But that's probably asking a lot from them so I'd have Ennor at 23 as an option too. I can see RTS playing later on in the series, just not the first game, but you never know.

                      I've also added Vaa'i at 6 even though he mainly plays lock because he's had a good season and can bring a punch. Nothing against Akira. The man's a beast too.

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                      @ThecostlyJoel Welcome to the Fern! :waving_hand:

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                      • T ThecostlyJoel

                        With all these issues coming through this is what I think might be the announced team.

                        1 Bower
                        2 Taylor
                        3 Laulala
                        4 Retallick
                        5 Whitelock
                        6 Vaa'i
                        7 Cane
                        8 Savea
                        9 Christie
                        10 Barrett
                        11 Fainga’anuku
                        12 Tupaea
                        13 Ioane
                        14 Reece
                        15 J Barrett

                        16 Taukei'aho
                        17 Tu'inukuafe
                        18 Tu'ungafasi
                        19 Barrett
                        20 Sotutu (or Akira)
                        21 Fakatava
                        22 Mo'unga
                        23 Perofeta (or Ennor)

                        Obviously I would have probably missed some injuries and/or health issues. But from what info I've come across this is what I think could happen.

                        I chose QT as 2nd 5 and he can be covered by J Barrett and Fainga’anuku which is why I've put Perofeta at 23 to cover 15 if needed. But that's probably asking a lot from them so I'd have Ennor at 23 as an option too. I can see RTS playing later on in the series, just not the first game, but you never know.

                        I've also added Vaa'i at 6 even though he mainly plays lock because he's had a good season and can bring a punch. Nothing against Akira. The man's a beast too.

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                        @ThecostlyJoel Welcome Joel!

                        Crikey - the backs look a bit Super rugby level to me - strong Super rugby, but a bit short of Big All Black test level!

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                          @ThecostlyJoel Welcome to the Fern! :waving_hand:

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                          @Stargazer said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                          @ThecostlyJoel Welcome to the Fern! :waving_hand:

                          Thanks for having me. Seems like a good place to discuss NZ rugby.

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                          • Chris B.C Chris B.

                            @ThecostlyJoel Welcome Joel!

                            Crikey - the backs look a bit Super rugby level to me - strong Super rugby, but a bit short of Big All Black test level!

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                            @Chris-B said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                            @ThecostlyJoel Welcome Joel!

                            Crikey - the backs look a bit Super rugby level to me - strong Super rugby, but a bit short of Big All Black test level!

                            how good would it be if they clicked though!

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                            • Chris B.C Chris B.

                              @ThecostlyJoel Welcome Joel!

                              Crikey - the backs look a bit Super rugby level to me - strong Super rugby, but a bit short of Big All Black test level!

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                              @Chris-B said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                              @ThecostlyJoel Welcome Joel!

                              Crikey - the backs look a bit Super rugby level to me - strong Super rugby, but a bit short of Big All Black test level!

                              Yeah I completely understand. My original back line up from the start of the month was Clarke, Goodhue, R Ioane, Reece and Jordan. But with how things went and are going this didn't really become an option. Even for Clarke, I'd rather have him rest up longer for the later games in the series before putting him on the field.

                              And Reece has been amazing this year, both with playing and keeping his team mates moral high during games which I think we definitely need even if it's a losing battle.

                              Reece over J Barrett, just because I think that J Barrett will have more of an impact off the bench.

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                              • CrucialC Crucial

                                Have Waikato been asked to urgently arrange a match against a neighbour so that DMac can run on for 10 minutes?
                                Surely 'special circumstances' apply when your squad is decimated.

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                                @Crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                Have Waikato been asked to urgently arrange a match against a neighbour so that DMac can run on for 10 minutes?
                                Surely 'special circumstances' apply when your squad is decimated.

                                gawd he's not even allowed to play club footy tried to this weekend club committee turned him down.

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                                  @Chris-B said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                  @ThecostlyJoel Welcome Joel!

                                  Crikey - the backs look a bit Super rugby level to me - strong Super rugby, but a bit short of Big All Black test level!

                                  Yeah I completely understand. My original back line up from the start of the month was Clarke, Goodhue, R Ioane, Reece and Jordan. But with how things went and are going this didn't really become an option. Even for Clarke, I'd rather have him rest up longer for the later games in the series before putting him on the field.

                                  And Reece has been amazing this year, both with playing and keeping his team mates moral high during games which I think we definitely need even if it's a losing battle.

                                  Reece over J Barrett, just because I think that J Barrett will have more of an impact off the bench.

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                                  @ThecostlyJoel With a bit of cloning, my Mako boys could put out a set of backs that wouldn't get smashed by those ABs.

                                  Mitch Hunt would have to play out of his skin though.

                                  Christie, Hunt, Faingaánuku, Havili, Nankivell, Reece, Jordan.

                                  Chapman/Hotham. Paea, Tavatavanawai.

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                                    Will Jordan won’t be the last to go down with covid in the camp.
                                    The team that runs on the field Saturday may differ from the team named on Thursday.

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                                    • ChrisC Chris

                                      Will Jordan won’t be the last to go down with covid in the camp.
                                      The team that runs on the field Saturday may differ from the team named on Thursday.

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                                      @Chris If this continues, some MABs may play two games against Ireland, this week.

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                                      • ChrisC Chris

                                        Will Jordan won’t be the last to go down with covid in the camp.
                                        The team that runs on the field Saturday may differ from the team named on Thursday.

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                                        @Chris said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                        Will Jordan won’t be the last to go down with covid in the camp.
                                        The team that runs on the field Saturday may differ from the team named on Thursday.

                                        Is that when the team is named? Thanks, I was about to ask.

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                                        • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                          @ThecostlyJoel With a bit of cloning, my Mako boys could put out a set of backs that wouldn't get smashed by those ABs.

                                          Mitch Hunt would have to play out of his skin though.

                                          Christie, Hunt, Faingaánuku, Havili, Nankivell, Reece, Jordan.

                                          Chapman/Hotham. Paea, Tavatavanawai.

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                                          @Chris-B You're not wrong, that's a strong back line. But what can be done with the players available to create a competing back line against a strong Irish side?

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