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All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test

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  • antipodeanA antipodean

    @Dan54 said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @gt12 said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    This conversation is driving me fucking nuts.

    We're playing a lock at 6 to hopefully make up for the fact that we are playing an impact 7 at 8.

    At what point are the selectors going to man up and make a choice that it would be better for AB rugby to lose Ardie Savea, so that we could get some fucking balance?

    Fuck him if he leaves because he has to play off the bench. We'd be better off.

    So if Ardie is a 7 playing at 8, why is he picked in world VXs at 8, why does he look to be the first player named in any super team while playing at 8? He is a pretty capable 8, and because he can also play 7 doesn't stop him being a bloody good 8. Who has said he will bugger off if he is on bench, that is just making shit up and seemingly trying to make Ardie look like an arsehole.

    People pick World XVs based in highlight reels. Just watch him play and how he never shifts bodies at rucks. Always leans or one out. Isn't tall enough to be a good option for lineputs.

    Those are considerable gaps to be overcome in a loose forward trio.

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    @antipodean said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Dan54 said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @gt12 said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    This conversation is driving me fucking nuts.

    We're playing a lock at 6 to hopefully make up for the fact that we are playing an impact 7 at 8.

    At what point are the selectors going to man up and make a choice that it would be better for AB rugby to lose Ardie Savea, so that we could get some fucking balance?

    Fuck him if he leaves because he has to play off the bench. We'd be better off.

    So if Ardie is a 7 playing at 8, why is he picked in world VXs at 8, why does he look to be the first player named in any super team while playing at 8? He is a pretty capable 8, and because he can also play 7 doesn't stop him being a bloody good 8. Who has said he will bugger off if he is on bench, that is just making shit up and seemingly trying to make Ardie look like an arsehole.

    People pick World XVs based in highlight reels. Just watch him play and how he never shifts bodies at rucks. Always leans or one out. Isn't tall enough to be a good option for lineputs.

    Those are considerable gaps to be overcome in a loose forward trio.

    You do know the world xv (the only one I use as it is a World Rugby one) is picked by the a panel including Richie McCaw, Terry Dustoir,, Joe Smit, Ugo Moyne etc etc, I know I know how would these lot know more about what makes a good international rugby player than those who who inhabit forums etc., but there you go they just look at a few highlights and pick team no doubt.

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    • L Ludraman

      Question for you Kiwis. Who, if any of the Irish would ye take in an AB team?

      I'm nervous about this first test... I just hope it's a close game and we don't get pumped.

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      @Ludraman said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

      Question for you Kiwis. Who, if any of the Irish would ye take in an AB team?

      I'm nervous about this first test... I just hope it's a close game and we don't get pumped.

      Easy. Henshaw at 12 has the runs on the board over Tupaea. Also Porter and Furlong at prop.

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      • L Ludraman

        Question for you Kiwis. Who, if any of the Irish would ye take in an AB team?

        I'm nervous about this first test... I just hope it's a close game and we don't get pumped.

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        @Ludraman said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

        Question for you Kiwis. Who, if any of the Irish would ye take in an AB team?

        I'm nervous about this first test... I just hope it's a close game and we don't get pumped.

        Furlong and Porter. Also the injured Leinster hooker Kelleher is a good player. Doris was very good vs the ABs last year but he’s been less impressive this year. Henshaw is a very good player. I rate the FB Keenan but probably not enough on attack. I think Ryan after a good first season has faded a bit.

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          I’ll wait and see how things pan out but as I’ve posted a few times not convinced by our props in the squad. The loose forwards are a mystery, not convinced PGS can post error-free test match footy. Grace has had a fantastic end to the season and is a genuine line out option like Read before him. Same can not be said of players like Savea. Hope Leicester goes well as I have doubts too.

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          • L Ludraman

            Question for you Kiwis. Who, if any of the Irish would ye take in an AB team?

            I'm nervous about this first test... I just hope it's a close game and we don't get pumped.

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            @Ludraman I'd take James Lowe over Big Leicester - but, not over Sevu Reece or Will Jordan.

            All my Mako boys!!! 🙂

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              If it's wet and tight (ooh err missus) I'd take sexcockwomble over Beaudy, but I think the weather is ok.

              I'd take one of their loosies over Barrett, anyone of them. I'd be tempted with Bierne instead of BBBR, unless Brodie really steps it back to the good old days

              O'Aki over Ennor, Healy instead of Angus, Murray not Christie

              South some of those above, is coming upto half the 23

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                Interesting to hear your opinions. I think as an Irishman I'd say we only have the edge in the starting props (reserve front row is a big step down), Josh Van Der Flier and Henshaw. I'd give it to the All Blacks in every other position.

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                  Gotta say I love test day, makes doing my chores and other things easier knowing I have a game to look forward to tonight. I hope you all enjoy your Saturday and get your jobs done so you can enjoy the rugby guilt free. 😉

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                    Blue sky, warm weather, sun out - an advertiseent for afternoon rugby.

                    Looking forward to this. Hopefully we're all wrong, Retallick and Whitelock step back up physically, ScoBa is awesome at 6, the backs unlock the rush defence and we dont get compromised in the linout. Fingers crossed!

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                      An interesting interview with O'Gara re tonight's test. He claims SH team follow the man on D whereas Ireland and the North follow the ball. He believes with enough bodies in motion NZ defensive players get confused and allow space and opportunity.

                      He also made reference that the NZ backline has not got a lot of minutes together and if Ireland take away time and space it should be interesting.

                      He also talked about players needing minutes in the position they play in test matches, he said you shouldn't be playing a different position for your club and expecting to have the skills for that position come test time.

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                      • chimoausC chimoaus

                        An interesting interview with O'Gara re tonight's test. He claims SH team follow the man on D whereas Ireland and the North follow the ball. He believes with enough bodies in motion NZ defensive players get confused and allow space and opportunity.

                        He also made reference that the NZ backline has not got a lot of minutes together and if Ireland take away time and space it should be interesting.

                        He also talked about players needing minutes in the position they play in test matches, he said you shouldn't be playing a different position for your club and expecting to have the skills for that position come test time.

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                        #649

                        @chimoaus sounds like he is talking a lot of sense about positions, combinations etc. We should have learned this by now

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                        • antipodeanA antipodean

                          @Dan54 said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                          @gt12 said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                          This conversation is driving me fucking nuts.

                          We're playing a lock at 6 to hopefully make up for the fact that we are playing an impact 7 at 8.

                          At what point are the selectors going to man up and make a choice that it would be better for AB rugby to lose Ardie Savea, so that we could get some fucking balance?

                          Fuck him if he leaves because he has to play off the bench. We'd be better off.

                          So if Ardie is a 7 playing at 8, why is he picked in world VXs at 8, why does he look to be the first player named in any super team while playing at 8? He is a pretty capable 8, and because he can also play 7 doesn't stop him being a bloody good 8. Who has said he will bugger off if he is on bench, that is just making shit up and seemingly trying to make Ardie look like an arsehole.

                          People pick World XVs based in highlight reels. Just watch him play and how he never shifts bodies at rucks. Always leans or one out. Isn't tall enough to be a good option for lineputs.

                          Those are considerable gaps to be overcome in a loose forward trio.

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                          @antipodean said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                          @Dan54 said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                          @gt12 said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                          This conversation is driving me fucking nuts.

                          We're playing a lock at 6 to hopefully make up for the fact that we are playing an impact 7 at 8.

                          At what point are the selectors going to man up and make a choice that it would be better for AB rugby to lose Ardie Savea, so that we could get some fucking balance?

                          Fuck him if he leaves because he has to play off the bench. We'd be better off.

                          So if Ardie is a 7 playing at 8, why is he picked in world VXs at 8, why does he look to be the first player named in any super team while playing at 8? He is a pretty capable 8, and because he can also play 7 doesn't stop him being a bloody good 8. Who has said he will bugger off if he is on bench, that is just making shit up and seemingly trying to make Ardie look like an arsehole.

                          People pick World XVs based in highlight reels. Just watch him play and how he never shifts bodies at rucks. Always leans or one out. Isn't tall enough to be a good option for lineputs.

                          Those are considerable gaps to be overcome in a loose forward trio.

                          Or based on sympathy.

                          Sergio Parisse got picked in lots of them despite over 100 test losses.

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                            Of course i hope we win. As others have said the manner of the result will be as important

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                            • chimoausC chimoaus

                              An interesting interview with O'Gara re tonight's test. He claims SH team follow the man on D whereas Ireland and the North follow the ball. He believes with enough bodies in motion NZ defensive players get confused and allow space and opportunity.

                              He also made reference that the NZ backline has not got a lot of minutes together and if Ireland take away time and space it should be interesting.

                              He also talked about players needing minutes in the position they play in test matches, he said you shouldn't be playing a different position for your club and expecting to have the skills for that position come test time.

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                              @chimoaus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                              he said you shouldn't be playing a different position for your club and expecting to have the skills for that position come test time.

                              have to think that is aimed specifically at the SB move, and given he worked with SB when he was at the 'saders, quite a telling comment?

                              But hey hope SB proves all the doubters wrong!

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                              • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                @chimoaus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                he said you shouldn't be playing a different position for your club and expecting to have the skills for that position come test time.

                                have to think that is aimed specifically at the SB move, and given he worked with SB when he was at the 'saders, quite a telling comment?

                                But hey hope SB proves all the doubters wrong!

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                                @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                @chimoaus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                he said you shouldn't be playing a different position for your club and expecting to have the skills for that position come test time.

                                have to think that is aimed specifically at the SB move, and given he worked with SB when he was at the 'saders, quite a telling comment?

                                But hey hope SB proves all the doubters wrong!

                                Hope so, hope he has a Kaino like match.

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                                • NepiaN Nepia

                                  @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                  @chimoaus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                  he said you shouldn't be playing a different position for your club and expecting to have the skills for that position come test time.

                                  have to think that is aimed specifically at the SB move, and given he worked with SB when he was at the 'saders, quite a telling comment?

                                  But hey hope SB proves all the doubters wrong!

                                  Hope so, hope he has a Kaino like match.

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                                  @Nepia said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                  @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                  @chimoaus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                  he said you shouldn't be playing a different position for your club and expecting to have the skills for that position come test time.

                                  have to think that is aimed specifically at the SB move, and given he worked with SB when he was at the 'saders, quite a telling comment?

                                  But hey hope SB proves all the doubters wrong!

                                  Hope so, hope he has a Kaino like match.

                                  Lol fuck and I hope Monica Belucci turns up on my doorstep in her underwear

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                                  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                    @Nepia said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                    @chimoaus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                    he said you shouldn't be playing a different position for your club and expecting to have the skills for that position come test time.

                                    have to think that is aimed specifically at the SB move, and given he worked with SB when he was at the 'saders, quite a telling comment?

                                    But hey hope SB proves all the doubters wrong!

                                    Hope so, hope he has a Kaino like match.

                                    Lol fuck and I hope Monica Belucci turns up on my doorstep in her underwear

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                                    @mariner4life said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                    @Nepia said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                    @chimoaus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                    he said you shouldn't be playing a different position for your club and expecting to have the skills for that position come test time.

                                    have to think that is aimed specifically at the SB move, and given he worked with SB when he was at the 'saders, quite a telling comment?

                                    But hey hope SB proves all the doubters wrong!

                                    Hope so, hope he has a Kaino like match.

                                    Lol fuck and I hope Monica Belucci turns up on my doorstep in her underwear

                                    9602c419-cae7-402a-9d92-26bb829bd180-image.png

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                                    • nzzpN nzzp

                                      @mariner4life said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                      @Nepia said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                      @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                      @chimoaus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                      he said you shouldn't be playing a different position for your club and expecting to have the skills for that position come test time.

                                      have to think that is aimed specifically at the SB move, and given he worked with SB when he was at the 'saders, quite a telling comment?

                                      But hey hope SB proves all the doubters wrong!

                                      Hope so, hope he has a Kaino like match.

                                      Lol fuck and I hope Monica Belucci turns up on my doorstep in her underwear

                                      9602c419-cae7-402a-9d92-26bb829bd180-image.png

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                                      @nzzp said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                      @mariner4life said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                      @Nepia said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                      @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                      @chimoaus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                      he said you shouldn't be playing a different position for your club and expecting to have the skills for that position come test time.

                                      have to think that is aimed specifically at the SB move, and given he worked with SB when he was at the 'saders, quite a telling comment?

                                      But hey hope SB proves all the doubters wrong!

                                      Hope so, hope he has a Kaino like match.

                                      Lol fuck and I hope Monica Belucci turns up on my doorstep in her underwear

                                      9602c419-cae7-402a-9d92-26bb829bd180-image.png

                                      Even got her silver fern back drop

                                      Good wife

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                                      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                        @chimoaus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                        he said you shouldn't be playing a different position for your club and expecting to have the skills for that position come test time.

                                        have to think that is aimed specifically at the SB move, and given he worked with SB when he was at the 'saders, quite a telling comment?

                                        But hey hope SB proves all the doubters wrong!

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                                        @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                        @chimoaus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                        he said you shouldn't be playing a different position for your club and expecting to have the skills for that position come test time.

                                        have to think that is aimed specifically at the SB move, and given he worked with SB when he was at the 'saders, quite a telling comment?

                                        But hey hope SB proves all the doubters wrong!

                                        I think he was referencing the Irish 10 in the Maori game who plays 12 for his club. But his comments are valid for SB also.

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                                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                          @nzzp said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                          @mariner4life said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                          @Nepia said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                          @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                          @chimoaus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                          he said you shouldn't be playing a different position for your club and expecting to have the skills for that position come test time.

                                          have to think that is aimed specifically at the SB move, and given he worked with SB when he was at the 'saders, quite a telling comment?

                                          But hey hope SB proves all the doubters wrong!

                                          Hope so, hope he has a Kaino like match.

                                          Lol fuck and I hope Monica Belucci turns up on my doorstep in her underwear

                                          9602c419-cae7-402a-9d92-26bb829bd180-image.png

                                          Even got her silver fern back drop

                                          Good wife

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                                          @mariner4life said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                          @nzzp said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                          @mariner4life said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                          @Nepia said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                          @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                          @chimoaus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                          he said you shouldn't be playing a different position for your club and expecting to have the skills for that position come test time.

                                          have to think that is aimed specifically at the SB move, and given he worked with SB when he was at the 'saders, quite a telling comment?

                                          But hey hope SB proves all the doubters wrong!

                                          Hope so, hope he has a Kaino like match.

                                          Lol fuck and I hope Monica Belucci turns up on my doorstep in her underwear

                                          9602c419-cae7-402a-9d92-26bb829bd180-image.png

                                          Even got her silver fern back drop

                                          Good wife

                                          Woof!!

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