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All Blacks XV 2022

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  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

    ultimate @booboo this one

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    @mariner4life said in All Blacks XV:

    ultimate @booboo this one

    What'd I do? (I'm hoping someone ... cough @Dan54 ... started a new thread 50 odd posts after someone started a new thread and it wasn't me ... )

    P.S. who is @Dan54-35 and @Dan543 ?

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    • boobooB booboo

      @mariner4life said in All Blacks XV:

      ultimate @booboo this one

      What'd I do? (I'm hoping someone ... cough @Dan54 ... started a new thread 50 odd posts after someone started a new thread and it wasn't me ... )

      P.S. who is @Dan54-35 and @Dan543 ?

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      @booboo said in All Blacks XV:

      @mariner4life said in All Blacks XV:

      ultimate @booboo this one

      What'd I do? (I'm hoping someone ... cough @Dan54 ... started a new thread 50 odd posts after someone started a new thread and it wasn't me ... )

      P.S. who is @Dan54-35 and @Dan543 ?

      buggered if I know who Dan 543 or Dan54-35 is Boo, only know who I am, and it's hard enough being me without trying to be anyone else. My Nic comes from my name and year born, so whoever else does it different.

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      • antipodeanA antipodean

        @Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks XV:

        https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/article-10968969/Ronan-OGara-Scott-Robertson-join-forces-coach-Barbarians-against-New-Zealand.html

        I'm inclined to believe NZR didn't approach Robertson before coming up with the XV concept.

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        @antipodean said in All Blacks XV:

        @Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks XV:

        https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/article-10968969/Ronan-OGara-Scott-Robertson-join-forces-coach-Barbarians-against-New-Zealand.html

        I'm inclined to believe NZR didn't approach Robertson before coming up with the XV concept.

        Well according to one version of that report he was offered it when NZR resigned Razor. Perhaps Baabaas job worth more money? Mind you it could be speculation about Razor as there no official staement.

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          https://twitter.com/paulcullystuff/status/1543042802593832960?s=20&t=A9gAyRTmnbpFu58hm9aZiA

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          • ChrisC Chris

            I am not sure If Razor's knee replacement surgery would take him out of contention to coach this side.About 3 months recovery time, so it might not have any impact on him coaching.

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            @Chris won’t take that long to recover. Good chance he could be back 3 to 4 weeks, maybe sooner. He is is good shape, relatively young and tough.

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              Goodhue is leaving so Sangster or Gallagher or MSR.

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                Goodhue is leaving so Sangster or Gallagher or MSR.

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                @cgrant said in All Blacks XV:

                Goodhue is leaving so Sangster or Gallagher or MSR.

                All 3!

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                • C cgrant

                  Goodhue is leaving so Sangster or Gallagher or MSR.

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                  @cgrant said in All Blacks XV:

                  Goodhue is leaving so Sangster or Gallagher or MSR.

                  @cgrant said in All Blacks XV:

                  Goodhue is leaving so Sangster or Gallagher or MSR.

                  Msr?

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                  • M Mackerzzzz

                    @cgrant said in All Blacks XV:

                    Goodhue is leaving so Sangster or Gallagher or MSR.

                    @cgrant said in All Blacks XV:

                    Goodhue is leaving so Sangster or Gallagher or MSR.

                    Msr?

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                    @Mackerzzzz said in All Blacks XV:

                    @cgrant said in All Blacks XV:

                    Goodhue is leaving so Sangster or Gallagher or MSR.

                    @cgrant said in All Blacks XV:

                    Goodhue is leaving so Sangster or Gallagher or MSR.

                    Msr?

                    😑😑 selby-rickit

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                      @cgrant said in All Blacks XV:

                      Goodhue is leaving so Sangster or Gallagher or MSR.

                      @cgrant said in All Blacks XV:

                      Goodhue is leaving so Sangster or Gallagher or MSR.

                      Msr?

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                      @Mackerzzzz I wonder whether MSR's criminal conviction will play a role? Will he be able to enter all countries?

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                        I'd pick Fabian Holland. He has such great physical attributes and steps up so well to each level.

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                        • StargazerS Stargazer

                          @Duluth said in All Blacks XV:

                          @Stargazer said in All Blacks XV:

                          I would hope that whoever coaches side recognises it's about improving depth at a national level and working alongside the All Blacks team. Any other reaction from a potential coach would be petty, short sighted and IMO disqualifying from the top job

                          Yep, what I said and meant doesn't contradict that. There needs to be coordination, cooperation and discussion between the two coaching groups. But that doesn't mean that the ABs coaches should take the decisions for this team as regards the selection of the (entire) team or how the team plays (game plan).

                          Of course the AB selectors should be picking this team too.

                          I disagree with that. Obviously, the two head coaches would discuss selections, coordinate fringe ABs getting game time for the ABs XV, but otherwise the coach of this team should be able to pick the players himself. The ABs coaches could decide what important skills they'd want to develop in players and - in a general way - what kind of game strategies they'd want to develop (for example, to counter a rush defence), but it should be up to the coach of this team of how this should be implemented for this team and how that translates into a game plan. On a meta level, sure, the ABs coaches decide what they want, but at a team level, they should leave it to the coach of this team.

                          If Robertson is tapped I'm sure he would do fine and be a team player

                          Again, what I said and meant doesn't contradict this.

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                          @Stargazer said in All Blacks XV:

                          the coach of this team should be able to pick the players himself

                          No. The AB selectors should get to pick this team. But assume this thread has moved past this argument now.

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                            Confirmed:

                            https://twitter.com/Barbarian_FC/status/1550057948931563520

                            http://www.barbarianfc.co.uk/news/scott-robertson-and-ronan-o-gara-to-take-the-reins-for-killik-cup-2022/

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                            • StargazerS Stargazer

                              Confirmed:

                              https://twitter.com/Barbarian_FC/status/1550057948931563520

                              http://www.barbarianfc.co.uk/news/scott-robertson-and-ronan-o-gara-to-take-the-reins-for-killik-cup-2022/

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                              @Stargazer NZR kicking goals again.

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                              • KirwanK Kirwan

                                Haven’t they missed a trick not calling this team the Shadow All Blacks?

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                                @Kirwan said in All Blacks XV:

                                Haven’t they missed a trick not calling this team the Shadow All Blacks?

                                They could have called it the Shades. Or the Black Shadows.

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                                • antipodeanA antipodean

                                  @Stargazer NZR kicking goals again.

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                                  @antipodean said in All Blacks XV:

                                  @Stargazer NZR kicking goals again.

                                  At least they'll get to see what Robertson can do with a team with a short turnaround 🙂

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                                    @antipodean said in All Blacks XV:

                                    @Stargazer NZR kicking goals again.

                                    At least they'll get to see what Robertson can do with a team with a short turnaround 🙂

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                                    @stodders ouch!

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                                      Why are we upset?

                                      Didn't we already know this?

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                                      • boobooB booboo

                                        Why are we upset?

                                        Didn't we already know this?

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                                        @booboo said in All Blacks XV:

                                        Why are we upset?

                                        Didn't we already know this?

                                        Were upset because razor should be coaching the ABs. And this maybe even puts the knockers on him taking over after fozzie had lost the bled

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                                          I'd like to know how much communication there has been (in both directions) between NZR and Robertson. I wouldn't be surprised if Robertson decided to accept the Baabaas offer without NZR knowing, which then ruled him out of the AB XV coaching position.

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