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All Blacks XV 2022

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    Goodhue is leaving so Sangster or Gallagher or MSR.

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      Goodhue is leaving so Sangster or Gallagher or MSR.

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      @cgrant said in All Blacks XV:

      Goodhue is leaving so Sangster or Gallagher or MSR.

      All 3!

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        Goodhue is leaving so Sangster or Gallagher or MSR.

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        @cgrant said in All Blacks XV:

        Goodhue is leaving so Sangster or Gallagher or MSR.

        @cgrant said in All Blacks XV:

        Goodhue is leaving so Sangster or Gallagher or MSR.

        Msr?

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          @cgrant said in All Blacks XV:

          Goodhue is leaving so Sangster or Gallagher or MSR.

          @cgrant said in All Blacks XV:

          Goodhue is leaving so Sangster or Gallagher or MSR.

          Msr?

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          @Mackerzzzz said in All Blacks XV:

          @cgrant said in All Blacks XV:

          Goodhue is leaving so Sangster or Gallagher or MSR.

          @cgrant said in All Blacks XV:

          Goodhue is leaving so Sangster or Gallagher or MSR.

          Msr?

          😑😑 selby-rickit

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            @cgrant said in All Blacks XV:

            Goodhue is leaving so Sangster or Gallagher or MSR.

            @cgrant said in All Blacks XV:

            Goodhue is leaving so Sangster or Gallagher or MSR.

            Msr?

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            @Mackerzzzz I wonder whether MSR's criminal conviction will play a role? Will he be able to enter all countries?

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              I'd pick Fabian Holland. He has such great physical attributes and steps up so well to each level.

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                @Duluth said in All Blacks XV:

                @Stargazer said in All Blacks XV:

                I would hope that whoever coaches side recognises it's about improving depth at a national level and working alongside the All Blacks team. Any other reaction from a potential coach would be petty, short sighted and IMO disqualifying from the top job

                Yep, what I said and meant doesn't contradict that. There needs to be coordination, cooperation and discussion between the two coaching groups. But that doesn't mean that the ABs coaches should take the decisions for this team as regards the selection of the (entire) team or how the team plays (game plan).

                Of course the AB selectors should be picking this team too.

                I disagree with that. Obviously, the two head coaches would discuss selections, coordinate fringe ABs getting game time for the ABs XV, but otherwise the coach of this team should be able to pick the players himself. The ABs coaches could decide what important skills they'd want to develop in players and - in a general way - what kind of game strategies they'd want to develop (for example, to counter a rush defence), but it should be up to the coach of this team of how this should be implemented for this team and how that translates into a game plan. On a meta level, sure, the ABs coaches decide what they want, but at a team level, they should leave it to the coach of this team.

                If Robertson is tapped I'm sure he would do fine and be a team player

                Again, what I said and meant doesn't contradict this.

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                @Stargazer said in All Blacks XV:

                the coach of this team should be able to pick the players himself

                No. The AB selectors should get to pick this team. But assume this thread has moved past this argument now.

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                  Confirmed:

                  https://twitter.com/Barbarian_FC/status/1550057948931563520

                  http://www.barbarianfc.co.uk/news/scott-robertson-and-ronan-o-gara-to-take-the-reins-for-killik-cup-2022/

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                    Confirmed:

                    https://twitter.com/Barbarian_FC/status/1550057948931563520

                    http://www.barbarianfc.co.uk/news/scott-robertson-and-ronan-o-gara-to-take-the-reins-for-killik-cup-2022/

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                    @Stargazer NZR kicking goals again.

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                    • KirwanK Kirwan

                      Haven’t they missed a trick not calling this team the Shadow All Blacks?

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                      @Kirwan said in All Blacks XV:

                      Haven’t they missed a trick not calling this team the Shadow All Blacks?

                      They could have called it the Shades. Or the Black Shadows.

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                        @Stargazer NZR kicking goals again.

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                        @antipodean said in All Blacks XV:

                        @Stargazer NZR kicking goals again.

                        At least they'll get to see what Robertson can do with a team with a short turnaround 🙂

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                          @antipodean said in All Blacks XV:

                          @Stargazer NZR kicking goals again.

                          At least they'll get to see what Robertson can do with a team with a short turnaround 🙂

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                          @stodders ouch!

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                            Why are we upset?

                            Didn't we already know this?

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                              Why are we upset?

                              Didn't we already know this?

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                              @booboo said in All Blacks XV:

                              Why are we upset?

                              Didn't we already know this?

                              Were upset because razor should be coaching the ABs. And this maybe even puts the knockers on him taking over after fozzie had lost the bled

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                                I'd like to know how much communication there has been (in both directions) between NZR and Robertson. I wouldn't be surprised if Robertson decided to accept the Baabaas offer without NZR knowing, which then ruled him out of the AB XV coaching position.

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                                  I'd like to know how much communication there has been (in both directions) between NZR and Robertson. I wouldn't be surprised if Robertson decided to accept the Baabaas offer without NZR knowing, which then ruled him out of the AB XV coaching position.

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                                  @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV:

                                  I'd like to know how much communication there has been (in both directions) between NZR and Robertson. I wouldn't be surprised if Robertson decided to accept the Baabaas offer without NZR knowing, which then ruled him out of the AB XV coaching position.

                                  I would be, he's under NZR contact and would have to get permission to coach elsewhere. I reckon, despite what I said above, that he'd have an out that his NZR contact is primary if required by NZ

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                                    Stuff understands MacDonald will take charge of the All Blacks XV tour later this year, when those who miss out on All Blacks selection will be given the chance to impress in the northern hemisphere.

                                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/129348883/dramatic-day-looms-for-nz-rugby-as-all-blacks-assistants-and-captain-sam-cane-face-axe

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                                      Tim
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                                      Post about Foster in one of the many threads. This is the AB XV thread.

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                                        After today's underwhelming announcement, what might an NZ A squad look like? Entire Blues squad is in, of course.

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                                          After today's underwhelming announcement, what might an NZ A squad look like? Entire Blues squad is in, of course.

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                                          Frye
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                                          @Tim

                                          Best Māori All Blacks plus the likes of:

                                          Hodgman, Josh Goodhue, Tom Robinson

                                          Ah Kuoi, Jacobsen, Samipeni Finau, Jonah Lowe, McKenzie?

                                          Aumua, Morgan, Peter UJ, Savea, Rayasi

                                          Newell, Williams

                                          PPP, MMT, Thomas UJ, Nareki

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