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  • M Machpants

    @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2022:

    Think I will take more notice of Kieran Read, especially as he says what I ramble on about all the time, ie Cane is made for test rugby, the way he plays etc is what we need.
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/129189155/kieran-read-comes-out-swinging-in-defence-of-all-blacks-captain-sam-cane

    I especially like

    Knowing fully well from experience, Read said Cane has “definitely got a good shoulder, real heavy”, as evidenced by one particular big shot he put on on the weekend,

    Poor Ofa, Cane taking all the credit because our commentators are shit, and our press look no further than what is easily found on google

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    @Machpants the only one in the press to pick up that Ofa was the one who made the tackle was SBW - who mentioned it about 5 times during the Stan coverage of the Wallaby game.

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      @Machpants the only one in the press to pick up that Ofa was the one who made the tackle was SBW - who mentioned it about 5 times during the Stan coverage of the Wallaby game.

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      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

      @Machpants the only one in the press to pick up that Ofa was the one who made the tackle was SBW - who mentioned it about 5 times during the Stan coverage of the Wallaby game.

      How embarassing for the rest than it was the genius SBW that picked it up

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        @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

        @Machpants the only one in the press to pick up that Ofa was the one who made the tackle was SBW - who mentioned it about 5 times during the Stan coverage of the Wallaby game.

        How embarassing for the rest than it was the genius SBW that picked it up

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        @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

        @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

        @Machpants the only one in the press to pick up that Ofa was the one who made the tackle was SBW - who mentioned it about 5 times during the Stan coverage of the Wallaby game.

        How embarassing for the rest than it was the genius SBW that picked it up

        Well Ofa and Cane are almost twins

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        • KirwanK Kirwan

          @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

          @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

          @Machpants the only one in the press to pick up that Ofa was the one who made the tackle was SBW - who mentioned it about 5 times during the Stan coverage of the Wallaby game.

          How embarassing for the rest than it was the genius SBW that picked it up

          Well Ofa and Cane are almost twins

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          @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

          @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

          @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

          @Machpants the only one in the press to pick up that Ofa was the one who made the tackle was SBW - who mentioned it about 5 times during the Stan coverage of the Wallaby game.

          How embarassing for the rest than it was the genius SBW that picked it up

          Well Ofa and Cane are almost twins

          Is that why Ofa is so fast for a prop, or Cane slow for a loosie?

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          • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

            @Machpants the only one in the press to pick up that Ofa was the one who made the tackle was SBW - who mentioned it about 5 times during the Stan coverage of the Wallaby game.

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            @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

            @Machpants the only one in the press to pick up that Ofa was the one who made the tackle was SBW - who mentioned it about 5 times during the Stan coverage of the Wallaby game.

            I'm pretty sure I saw Cane doing a hit that made a player spill the ball, UK commentary didn't even have a name until the replay. How was Ofa involved?

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            • BonesB Bones

              @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

              @Machpants the only one in the press to pick up that Ofa was the one who made the tackle was SBW - who mentioned it about 5 times during the Stan coverage of the Wallaby game.

              I'm pretty sure I saw Cane doing a hit that made a player spill the ball, UK commentary didn't even have a name until the replay. How was Ofa involved?

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              @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

              @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

              @Machpants the only one in the press to pick up that Ofa was the one who made the tackle was SBW - who mentioned it about 5 times during the Stan coverage of the Wallaby game.

              I'm pretty sure I saw Cane doing a hit that made a player spill the ball, UK commentary didn't even have a name until the replay. How was Ofa involved?

              I went back and had a look - I can find the time stamp if need be - Cane was right next to Ofa and the Irish player fell towards Cane so at a glance I can see why it was attributed to Cane but it was Ofa's shoulder/hit/tackle that caused the spill.

              Not to go full GAGR but see the below.

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              • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

                @Machpants the only one in the press to pick up that Ofa was the one who made the tackle was SBW - who mentioned it about 5 times during the Stan coverage of the Wallaby game.

                I'm pretty sure I saw Cane doing a hit that made a player spill the ball, UK commentary didn't even have a name until the replay. How was Ofa involved?

                I went back and had a look - I can find the time stamp if need be - Cane was right next to Ofa and the Irish player fell towards Cane so at a glance I can see why it was attributed to Cane but it was Ofa's shoulder/hit/tackle that caused the spill.

                Not to go full GAGR but see the below.

                db170887-a733-4e9b-adf8-7655d686ec10-image.png

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                @KiwiMurph the one in my mind had Cane coming in from the side, on the tram lines. But most likely old man brain.

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                • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                  @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                  @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

                  @Machpants the only one in the press to pick up that Ofa was the one who made the tackle was SBW - who mentioned it about 5 times during the Stan coverage of the Wallaby game.

                  I'm pretty sure I saw Cane doing a hit that made a player spill the ball, UK commentary didn't even have a name until the replay. How was Ofa involved?

                  I went back and had a look - I can find the time stamp if need be - Cane was right next to Ofa and the Irish player fell towards Cane so at a glance I can see why it was attributed to Cane but it was Ofa's shoulder/hit/tackle that caused the spill.

                  Not to go full GAGR but see the below.

                  db170887-a733-4e9b-adf8-7655d686ec10-image.png

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                  ARHS
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                  @KiwiMurph that makes it look like the jolting impact to force the turnover came from Cane with Ofas low tackle simply enabling that contact. So I really don't follow what people are saying in this thread. Or is it a different tackle? The Barnes article was just a click bait windup.

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                  • A ARHS

                    @KiwiMurph that makes it look like the jolting impact to force the turnover came from Cane with Ofas low tackle simply enabling that contact. So I really don't follow what people are saying in this thread. Or is it a different tackle? The Barnes article was just a click bait windup.

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                    @ARHS if you watch in real time all the force comes from Ofa. Cane basically stands there and does a little jump.

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                    • M Machpants

                      @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @Machpants the only one in the press to pick up that Ofa was the one who made the tackle was SBW - who mentioned it about 5 times during the Stan coverage of the Wallaby game.

                      How embarassing for the rest than it was the genius SBW that picked it up

                      Well Ofa and Cane are almost twins

                      Is that why Ofa is so fast for a prop, or Cane slow for a loosie?

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                      @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                      Is that why Ofa is so fast for a prop, or Cane slow for a loosie?

                      Ofa is a lightweight.

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                      • A ARHS

                        @KiwiMurph that makes it look like the jolting impact to force the turnover came from Cane with Ofas low tackle simply enabling that contact. So I really don't follow what people are saying in this thread. Or is it a different tackle? The Barnes article was just a click bait windup.

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                        @ARHS said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @KiwiMurph that makes it look like the jolting impact to force the turnover came from Cane with Ofas low tackle simply enabling that contact. So I really don't follow what people are saying in this thread. Or is it a different tackle? The Barnes article was just a click bait windup.

                        I'm not savvy enough to turn it into a gif but in the motion/video it's Ofa's hit that has all the impact.

                        I've gone into way too much detail already so I might as well keep going.

                        It looks like the ball comes out prior to Cane making any contact at all as Furlong carries into contact with his left arm/side and this is a still image from just before the image I posted above with Ofa making the hit and Cane between Ardie and Furlong (blocked by Irish 8 Doris) yet to make contact.

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                        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                          @ARHS said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @KiwiMurph that makes it look like the jolting impact to force the turnover came from Cane with Ofas low tackle simply enabling that contact. So I really don't follow what people are saying in this thread. Or is it a different tackle? The Barnes article was just a click bait windup.

                          I'm not savvy enough to turn it into a gif but in the motion/video it's Ofa's hit that has all the impact.

                          I've gone into way too much detail already so I might as well keep going.

                          It looks like the ball comes out prior to Cane making any contact at all as Furlong carries into contact with his left arm/side and this is a still image from just before the image I posted above with Ofa making the hit and Cane between Ardie and Furlong (blocked by Irish 8 Doris) yet to make contact.

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                          @KiwiMurph
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                          Cane doesn't really do anything. Ofa just tackles the player into Cane.

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                            @KiwiMurph
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                            Cane doesn't really do anything. Ofa just tackles the player into Cane.

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                            @Dice said in All Blacks 2022:

                            @KiwiMurph
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                            Cane doesn't really do anything. Ofa just tackles the player into Cane.

                            But that's not the massive hit Cane did. Why is that one even being debated?

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                            • NepiaN Nepia

                              @Dice said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @KiwiMurph
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                              Cane doesn't really do anything. Ofa just tackles the player into Cane.

                              But that's not the massive hit Cane did. Why is that one even being debated?

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                              @Nepia said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @Dice said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @KiwiMurph
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                              Cane doesn't really do anything. Ofa just tackles the player into Cane.

                              But that's not the massive hit Cane did. Why is that one even being debated?

                              Because that big hit was called as from cane in game and was then mentioned in a lot of press articles in their post match reviews and player ratings.

                              Could you point out the big hit cane did do?

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                              • M Machpants

                                @Nepia said in All Blacks 2022:

                                @Dice said in All Blacks 2022:

                                @KiwiMurph
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                                Cane doesn't really do anything. Ofa just tackles the player into Cane.

                                But that's not the massive hit Cane did. Why is that one even being debated?

                                Because that big hit was called as from cane in game and was then mentioned in a lot of press articles in their post match reviews and player ratings.

                                Could you point out the big hit cane did do?

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                                @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                                @Nepia said in All Blacks 2022:

                                @Dice said in All Blacks 2022:

                                @KiwiMurph
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                                Cane doesn't really do anything. Ofa just tackles the player into Cane.

                                But that's not the massive hit Cane did. Why is that one even being debated?

                                Because that big hit was called as from cane in game and was then mentioned in a lot of press articles in their post match reviews and player ratings.

                                Could you point out the big hit cane did do?

                                You don't expect those screaming idiots to get things correct do you?

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                                • M Machpants

                                  @Nepia said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  @Dice said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  @KiwiMurph
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                                  Cane doesn't really do anything. Ofa just tackles the player into Cane.

                                  But that's not the massive hit Cane did. Why is that one even being debated?

                                  Because that big hit was called as from cane in game and was then mentioned in a lot of press articles in their post match reviews and player ratings.

                                  Could you point out the big hit cane did do?

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                                  @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  @Nepia said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  @Dice said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  @KiwiMurph
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                                  Cane doesn't really do anything. Ofa just tackles the player into Cane.

                                  But that's not the massive hit Cane did. Why is that one even being debated?

                                  Because that big hit was called as from cane in game and was then mentioned in a lot of press articles in their post match reviews and player ratings.

                                  Could you point out the big hit cane did do?

                                  I'm not going to go back through the footage, but the same one from the side that @Bones mentioned.

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                                  • NepiaN Nepia

                                    @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    @Nepia said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    @Dice said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    @KiwiMurph
                                    alt text

                                    Cane doesn't really do anything. Ofa just tackles the player into Cane.

                                    But that's not the massive hit Cane did. Why is that one even being debated?

                                    Because that big hit was called as from cane in game and was then mentioned in a lot of press articles in their post match reviews and player ratings.

                                    Could you point out the big hit cane did do?

                                    I'm not going to go back through the footage, but the same one from the side that @Bones mentioned.

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                                    @Nepia said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    @Nepia said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    @Dice said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    @KiwiMurph
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                                    Cane doesn't really do anything. Ofa just tackles the player into Cane.

                                    But that's not the massive hit Cane did. Why is that one even being debated?

                                    Because that big hit was called as from cane in game and was then mentioned in a lot of press articles in their post match reviews and player ratings.

                                    Could you point out the big hit cane did do?

                                    I'm not going to go back through the footage, but the same one from the side that @Bones mentioned.

                                    I like you Nepia see things in game, but I don't take note of when they happen etc or be bothered to go back through game to find them, but I thought the big Cane hit was different to that one.

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                                    • NepiaN Nepia

                                      @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @Nepia said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @Dice said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @KiwiMurph
                                      alt text

                                      Cane doesn't really do anything. Ofa just tackles the player into Cane.

                                      But that's not the massive hit Cane did. Why is that one even being debated?

                                      Because that big hit was called as from cane in game and was then mentioned in a lot of press articles in their post match reviews and player ratings.

                                      Could you point out the big hit cane did do?

                                      I'm not going to go back through the footage, but the same one from the side that @Bones mentioned.

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                                      @Nepia said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @Nepia said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @Dice said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @KiwiMurph
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                                      Cane doesn't really do anything. Ofa just tackles the player into Cane.

                                      But that's not the massive hit Cane did. Why is that one even being debated?

                                      Because that big hit was called as from cane in game and was then mentioned in a lot of press articles in their post match reviews and player ratings.

                                      Could you point out the big hit cane did do?

                                      I'm not going to go back through the footage, but the same one from the side that @Bones mentioned.

                                      yeah this is a weird one even for the Fern. Cane absolutely flattens a bloke, i even commented on it in the game thread because i was in teh middle of typing a post about where the fuck our loosies were.

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                                      • NepiaN Nepia

                                        @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @Nepia said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @Dice said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @KiwiMurph
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                                        Cane doesn't really do anything. Ofa just tackles the player into Cane.

                                        But that's not the massive hit Cane did. Why is that one even being debated?

                                        Because that big hit was called as from cane in game and was then mentioned in a lot of press articles in their post match reviews and player ratings.

                                        Could you point out the big hit cane did do?

                                        I'm not going to go back through the footage, but the same one from the side that @Bones mentioned.

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                                        @Nepia said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @Nepia said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @Dice said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @KiwiMurph
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                                        Cane doesn't really do anything. Ofa just tackles the player into Cane.

                                        But that's not the massive hit Cane did. Why is that one even being debated?

                                        Because that big hit was called as from cane in game and was then mentioned in a lot of press articles in their post match reviews and player ratings.

                                        Could you point out the big hit cane did do?

                                        I'm not going to go back through the footage, but the same one from the side that @Bones mentioned.

                                        Are you sure that wasn't done by Ofa too? 🙂

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                                        • NepiaN Nepia

                                          @Dice said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @KiwiMurph
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                                          Cane doesn't really do anything. Ofa just tackles the player into Cane.

                                          But that's not the massive hit Cane did. Why is that one even being debated?

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                                          @Nepia cane is doing a good job there regardless. If he throws too much intent he risks a card as the guy is well chopped.

                                          Can stays high in the line and helps dislodge the ball. See ardie fades off and looks for the jackal, different intents from 2 inside defenders.

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