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  • KirwanK Kirwan

    @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Machpants the only one in the press to pick up that Ofa was the one who made the tackle was SBW - who mentioned it about 5 times during the Stan coverage of the Wallaby game.

    How embarassing for the rest than it was the genius SBW that picked it up

    Well Ofa and Cane are almost twins

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    @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Machpants the only one in the press to pick up that Ofa was the one who made the tackle was SBW - who mentioned it about 5 times during the Stan coverage of the Wallaby game.

    How embarassing for the rest than it was the genius SBW that picked it up

    Well Ofa and Cane are almost twins

    Is that why Ofa is so fast for a prop, or Cane slow for a loosie?

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    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

      @Machpants the only one in the press to pick up that Ofa was the one who made the tackle was SBW - who mentioned it about 5 times during the Stan coverage of the Wallaby game.

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      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

      @Machpants the only one in the press to pick up that Ofa was the one who made the tackle was SBW - who mentioned it about 5 times during the Stan coverage of the Wallaby game.

      I'm pretty sure I saw Cane doing a hit that made a player spill the ball, UK commentary didn't even have a name until the replay. How was Ofa involved?

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      • BonesB Bones

        @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

        @Machpants the only one in the press to pick up that Ofa was the one who made the tackle was SBW - who mentioned it about 5 times during the Stan coverage of the Wallaby game.

        I'm pretty sure I saw Cane doing a hit that made a player spill the ball, UK commentary didn't even have a name until the replay. How was Ofa involved?

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        @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

        @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

        @Machpants the only one in the press to pick up that Ofa was the one who made the tackle was SBW - who mentioned it about 5 times during the Stan coverage of the Wallaby game.

        I'm pretty sure I saw Cane doing a hit that made a player spill the ball, UK commentary didn't even have a name until the replay. How was Ofa involved?

        I went back and had a look - I can find the time stamp if need be - Cane was right next to Ofa and the Irish player fell towards Cane so at a glance I can see why it was attributed to Cane but it was Ofa's shoulder/hit/tackle that caused the spill.

        Not to go full GAGR but see the below.

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        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

          @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

          @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

          @Machpants the only one in the press to pick up that Ofa was the one who made the tackle was SBW - who mentioned it about 5 times during the Stan coverage of the Wallaby game.

          I'm pretty sure I saw Cane doing a hit that made a player spill the ball, UK commentary didn't even have a name until the replay. How was Ofa involved?

          I went back and had a look - I can find the time stamp if need be - Cane was right next to Ofa and the Irish player fell towards Cane so at a glance I can see why it was attributed to Cane but it was Ofa's shoulder/hit/tackle that caused the spill.

          Not to go full GAGR but see the below.

          db170887-a733-4e9b-adf8-7655d686ec10-image.png

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          @KiwiMurph the one in my mind had Cane coming in from the side, on the tram lines. But most likely old man brain.

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          • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

            @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

            @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

            @Machpants the only one in the press to pick up that Ofa was the one who made the tackle was SBW - who mentioned it about 5 times during the Stan coverage of the Wallaby game.

            I'm pretty sure I saw Cane doing a hit that made a player spill the ball, UK commentary didn't even have a name until the replay. How was Ofa involved?

            I went back and had a look - I can find the time stamp if need be - Cane was right next to Ofa and the Irish player fell towards Cane so at a glance I can see why it was attributed to Cane but it was Ofa's shoulder/hit/tackle that caused the spill.

            Not to go full GAGR but see the below.

            db170887-a733-4e9b-adf8-7655d686ec10-image.png

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            ARHS
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            @KiwiMurph that makes it look like the jolting impact to force the turnover came from Cane with Ofas low tackle simply enabling that contact. So I really don't follow what people are saying in this thread. Or is it a different tackle? The Barnes article was just a click bait windup.

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            • A ARHS

              @KiwiMurph that makes it look like the jolting impact to force the turnover came from Cane with Ofas low tackle simply enabling that contact. So I really don't follow what people are saying in this thread. Or is it a different tackle? The Barnes article was just a click bait windup.

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              @ARHS if you watch in real time all the force comes from Ofa. Cane basically stands there and does a little jump.

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              • M Machpants

                @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

                @Machpants the only one in the press to pick up that Ofa was the one who made the tackle was SBW - who mentioned it about 5 times during the Stan coverage of the Wallaby game.

                How embarassing for the rest than it was the genius SBW that picked it up

                Well Ofa and Cane are almost twins

                Is that why Ofa is so fast for a prop, or Cane slow for a loosie?

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                @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                Is that why Ofa is so fast for a prop, or Cane slow for a loosie?

                Ofa is a lightweight.

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                • A ARHS

                  @KiwiMurph that makes it look like the jolting impact to force the turnover came from Cane with Ofas low tackle simply enabling that contact. So I really don't follow what people are saying in this thread. Or is it a different tackle? The Barnes article was just a click bait windup.

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                  @ARHS said in All Blacks 2022:

                  @KiwiMurph that makes it look like the jolting impact to force the turnover came from Cane with Ofas low tackle simply enabling that contact. So I really don't follow what people are saying in this thread. Or is it a different tackle? The Barnes article was just a click bait windup.

                  I'm not savvy enough to turn it into a gif but in the motion/video it's Ofa's hit that has all the impact.

                  I've gone into way too much detail already so I might as well keep going.

                  It looks like the ball comes out prior to Cane making any contact at all as Furlong carries into contact with his left arm/side and this is a still image from just before the image I posted above with Ofa making the hit and Cane between Ardie and Furlong (blocked by Irish 8 Doris) yet to make contact.

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                  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                    @ARHS said in All Blacks 2022:

                    @KiwiMurph that makes it look like the jolting impact to force the turnover came from Cane with Ofas low tackle simply enabling that contact. So I really don't follow what people are saying in this thread. Or is it a different tackle? The Barnes article was just a click bait windup.

                    I'm not savvy enough to turn it into a gif but in the motion/video it's Ofa's hit that has all the impact.

                    I've gone into way too much detail already so I might as well keep going.

                    It looks like the ball comes out prior to Cane making any contact at all as Furlong carries into contact with his left arm/side and this is a still image from just before the image I posted above with Ofa making the hit and Cane between Ardie and Furlong (blocked by Irish 8 Doris) yet to make contact.

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                    @KiwiMurph
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                    Cane doesn't really do anything. Ofa just tackles the player into Cane.

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                    • DiceD Dice

                      @KiwiMurph
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                      Cane doesn't really do anything. Ofa just tackles the player into Cane.

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                      @Dice said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @KiwiMurph
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                      Cane doesn't really do anything. Ofa just tackles the player into Cane.

                      But that's not the massive hit Cane did. Why is that one even being debated?

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                      • NepiaN Nepia

                        @Dice said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @KiwiMurph
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                        Cane doesn't really do anything. Ofa just tackles the player into Cane.

                        But that's not the massive hit Cane did. Why is that one even being debated?

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                        @Nepia said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @Dice said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @KiwiMurph
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                        Cane doesn't really do anything. Ofa just tackles the player into Cane.

                        But that's not the massive hit Cane did. Why is that one even being debated?

                        Because that big hit was called as from cane in game and was then mentioned in a lot of press articles in their post match reviews and player ratings.

                        Could you point out the big hit cane did do?

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                        • M Machpants

                          @Nepia said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @Dice said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @KiwiMurph
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                          Cane doesn't really do anything. Ofa just tackles the player into Cane.

                          But that's not the massive hit Cane did. Why is that one even being debated?

                          Because that big hit was called as from cane in game and was then mentioned in a lot of press articles in their post match reviews and player ratings.

                          Could you point out the big hit cane did do?

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                          Crucial
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                          @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @Nepia said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @Dice said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @KiwiMurph
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                          Cane doesn't really do anything. Ofa just tackles the player into Cane.

                          But that's not the massive hit Cane did. Why is that one even being debated?

                          Because that big hit was called as from cane in game and was then mentioned in a lot of press articles in their post match reviews and player ratings.

                          Could you point out the big hit cane did do?

                          You don't expect those screaming idiots to get things correct do you?

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                          • M Machpants

                            @Nepia said in All Blacks 2022:

                            @Dice said in All Blacks 2022:

                            @KiwiMurph
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                            Cane doesn't really do anything. Ofa just tackles the player into Cane.

                            But that's not the massive hit Cane did. Why is that one even being debated?

                            Because that big hit was called as from cane in game and was then mentioned in a lot of press articles in their post match reviews and player ratings.

                            Could you point out the big hit cane did do?

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                            Nepia
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                            @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                            @Nepia said in All Blacks 2022:

                            @Dice said in All Blacks 2022:

                            @KiwiMurph
                            alt text

                            Cane doesn't really do anything. Ofa just tackles the player into Cane.

                            But that's not the massive hit Cane did. Why is that one even being debated?

                            Because that big hit was called as from cane in game and was then mentioned in a lot of press articles in their post match reviews and player ratings.

                            Could you point out the big hit cane did do?

                            I'm not going to go back through the footage, but the same one from the side that @Bones mentioned.

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                            • NepiaN Nepia

                              @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @Nepia said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @Dice said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @KiwiMurph
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                              Cane doesn't really do anything. Ofa just tackles the player into Cane.

                              But that's not the massive hit Cane did. Why is that one even being debated?

                              Because that big hit was called as from cane in game and was then mentioned in a lot of press articles in their post match reviews and player ratings.

                              Could you point out the big hit cane did do?

                              I'm not going to go back through the footage, but the same one from the side that @Bones mentioned.

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                              Dan54
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                              @Nepia said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @Nepia said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @Dice said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @KiwiMurph
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                              Cane doesn't really do anything. Ofa just tackles the player into Cane.

                              But that's not the massive hit Cane did. Why is that one even being debated?

                              Because that big hit was called as from cane in game and was then mentioned in a lot of press articles in their post match reviews and player ratings.

                              Could you point out the big hit cane did do?

                              I'm not going to go back through the footage, but the same one from the side that @Bones mentioned.

                              I like you Nepia see things in game, but I don't take note of when they happen etc or be bothered to go back through game to find them, but I thought the big Cane hit was different to that one.

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                              • NepiaN Nepia

                                @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                                @Nepia said in All Blacks 2022:

                                @Dice said in All Blacks 2022:

                                @KiwiMurph
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                                Cane doesn't really do anything. Ofa just tackles the player into Cane.

                                But that's not the massive hit Cane did. Why is that one even being debated?

                                Because that big hit was called as from cane in game and was then mentioned in a lot of press articles in their post match reviews and player ratings.

                                Could you point out the big hit cane did do?

                                I'm not going to go back through the footage, but the same one from the side that @Bones mentioned.

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                                mariner4life
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                                @Nepia said in All Blacks 2022:

                                @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                                @Nepia said in All Blacks 2022:

                                @Dice said in All Blacks 2022:

                                @KiwiMurph
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                                Cane doesn't really do anything. Ofa just tackles the player into Cane.

                                But that's not the massive hit Cane did. Why is that one even being debated?

                                Because that big hit was called as from cane in game and was then mentioned in a lot of press articles in their post match reviews and player ratings.

                                Could you point out the big hit cane did do?

                                I'm not going to go back through the footage, but the same one from the side that @Bones mentioned.

                                yeah this is a weird one even for the Fern. Cane absolutely flattens a bloke, i even commented on it in the game thread because i was in teh middle of typing a post about where the fuck our loosies were.

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                                • NepiaN Nepia

                                  @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  @Nepia said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  @Dice said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  @KiwiMurph
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                                  Cane doesn't really do anything. Ofa just tackles the player into Cane.

                                  But that's not the massive hit Cane did. Why is that one even being debated?

                                  Because that big hit was called as from cane in game and was then mentioned in a lot of press articles in their post match reviews and player ratings.

                                  Could you point out the big hit cane did do?

                                  I'm not going to go back through the footage, but the same one from the side that @Bones mentioned.

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                                  @Nepia said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  @Nepia said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  @Dice said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  @KiwiMurph
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                                  Cane doesn't really do anything. Ofa just tackles the player into Cane.

                                  But that's not the massive hit Cane did. Why is that one even being debated?

                                  Because that big hit was called as from cane in game and was then mentioned in a lot of press articles in their post match reviews and player ratings.

                                  Could you point out the big hit cane did do?

                                  I'm not going to go back through the footage, but the same one from the side that @Bones mentioned.

                                  Are you sure that wasn't done by Ofa too? 🙂

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                                  • NepiaN Nepia

                                    @Dice said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    @KiwiMurph
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                                    Cane doesn't really do anything. Ofa just tackles the player into Cane.

                                    But that's not the massive hit Cane did. Why is that one even being debated?

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                                    @Nepia cane is doing a good job there regardless. If he throws too much intent he risks a card as the guy is well chopped.

                                    Can stays high in the line and helps dislodge the ball. See ardie fades off and looks for the jackal, different intents from 2 inside defenders.

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                                      Sorry for derailing the thread.

                                      Getting back on track - this is a good article that shows the maturing of Rieko - he's come a long way the last couple of years.

                                      https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/129218085/why-all-blacks-no-13-rieko-ioane-now-puts-defence-on-a-pedestal

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                                      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                        Sorry for derailing the thread.

                                        Getting back on track - this is a good article that shows the maturing of Rieko - he's come a long way the last couple of years.

                                        https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/129218085/why-all-blacks-no-13-rieko-ioane-now-puts-defence-on-a-pedestal

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                                        @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        Sorry for derailing the thread.

                                        Getting back on track - this is a good article that shows the maturing of Rieko - he's come a long way the last couple of years.

                                        https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/129218085/why-all-blacks-no-13-rieko-ioane-now-puts-defence-on-a-pedestal

                                        All very good, but it is his decision making that he really needs to work on. He was behind the errors leading to two Irish tries. As an individual he's awesome, but decisions as 13 needs a lot of work

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                                        • M Machpants

                                          @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          Sorry for derailing the thread.

                                          Getting back on track - this is a good article that shows the maturing of Rieko - he's come a long way the last couple of years.

                                          https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/129218085/why-all-blacks-no-13-rieko-ioane-now-puts-defence-on-a-pedestal

                                          All very good, but it is his decision making that he really needs to work on. He was behind the errors leading to two Irish tries. As an individual he's awesome, but decisions as 13 needs a lot of work

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                                          @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          He was behind the errors leading to two Irish tries

                                          I'm interested to hear more about this.

                                          The first irish try came from 18 phases and the ABs defence had numbered up correctly.

                                          The second irish try came from Jordie shooting up leaving a slight overlap/gap on the outside.

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