All Blacks 2022
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:
@delicatessen said in All Blacks 2022:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:
@Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:
He was behind the errors leading to two Irish tries
I'm interested to hear more about this.
The first irish try came from 18 phases and the ABs defence had numbered up correctly.
The second irish try came from Jordie shooting up leaving a slight overlap/gap on the outside.
The reasoning behind that comment is pretty clear in this - originally shared by @Machpants in the first test thread
Thanks!
Really interesting reading.
I disagree with the comment that Jordie had no choice but to shoot up for the 2nd try given Rieko's speed and ability to close space late. To me that looks like two players first test of the season not used to defending together.
Yep you're probably right. It must be a tough line to tread for a high-level rugby player - where's the line between trusting your team-mate to do his job, and stepping in because you trust your own ability?
@delicatessen said in All Blacks 2022:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:
@delicatessen said in All Blacks 2022:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:
@Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:
He was behind the errors leading to two Irish tries
I'm interested to hear more about this.
The first irish try came from 18 phases and the ABs defence had numbered up correctly.
The second irish try came from Jordie shooting up leaving a slight overlap/gap on the outside.
The reasoning behind that comment is pretty clear in this - originally shared by @Machpants in the first test thread
Thanks!
Really interesting reading.
I disagree with the comment that Jordie had no choice but to shoot up for the 2nd try given Rieko's speed and ability to close space late. To me that looks like two players first test of the season not used to defending together.
Yep you're probably right. It must be a tough line to tread for a high-level rugby player - where's the line between trusting your team-mate to do his job, and stepping in because you trust your own ability?
IMO you ALWAYs trust your team mate, because then if it doesn't happen it is their fault
But really you've got to trust otherwise defensive systems will never work. More tries are given away by players covering someone that they don;t need to but can't help themselves than just leaving it to a team mate who fails
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Stuart is an Ardie fan too.
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
Stuart is an Ardie fan too.
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Yay foster, you useless fluffybunny
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In a way I hope we lose next week, lose the Bledisloe and Rugby Championship, it’ll be the only way for us to get a new coach.
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In a way I hope we lose next week, lose the Bledisloe and Rugby Championship, it’ll be the only way for us to get a new coach.
@Gunner said in All Blacks 2022:
In a way I hope we lose next week, lose the Bledisloe and Rugby Championship, it’ll be the only way for us to get a new coach.
Yeah nah. That's pretty abysmal. And won't work anyway.
Even if we got rid of Foster, the next coach is on a hiding to nothing unless we get a caretaker in until after RWC. But I think Eddie isn't available.
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In a way I hope we lose next week, lose the Bledisloe and Rugby Championship, it’ll be the only way for us to get a new coach.
Serious question:
If the new coach doesn't make much of a difference (as has happened before) what should be done then?
How many Bledisloe's and RC's would you want to lose to then get yet another coach?
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In a way I hope we lose next week, lose the Bledisloe and Rugby Championship, it’ll be the only way for us to get a new coach.
@Gunner said in All Blacks 2022:
In a way I hope we lose next week, lose the Bledisloe and Rugby Championship, it’ll be the only way for us to get a new coach.
Nah.
I think we can win next Saturday. Change a few tactics, not all of them because there was some good in amongst all the dropped ball, poor kicks and poor decision making.
A series win against Ireland would do wonders for the confidence of the squad. Nothing for granted and more work needed and all that. But for me that can be a great positive for improvement.
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@Gunner said in All Blacks 2022:
In a way I hope we lose next week, lose the Bledisloe and Rugby Championship, it’ll be the only way for us to get a new coach.
Nah.
I think we can win next Saturday. Change a few tactics, not all of them because there was some good in amongst all the dropped ball, poor kicks and poor decision making.
A series win against Ireland would do wonders for the confidence of the squad. Nothing for granted and more work needed and all that. But for me that can be a great positive for improvement.
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:
@Gunner said in All Blacks 2022:
In a way I hope we lose next week, lose the Bledisloe and Rugby Championship, it’ll be the only way for us to get a new coach.
Nah.
I think we can win next Saturday. Change a few tactics, not all of them because there was some good in amongst all the dropped ball, poor kicks and poor decision making.
A series win against Ireland would do wonders for the confidence of the squad. Nothing for granted and more work needed and all that. But for me that can be a great positive for improvement.
We'll win. I sound like you, but I'm confident that we'll see a response.
Until the next WC, we'll be up and down, then our next coach will have a chance to build a squad for the future.
Paps likely as captain. The key point is identifying the right game drivers now and having them in place - let's hope Fakatava is as good as he looks.
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@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:
@Gunner said in All Blacks 2022:
In a way I hope we lose next week, lose the Bledisloe and Rugby Championship, it’ll be the only way for us to get a new coach.
Nah.
I think we can win next Saturday. Change a few tactics, not all of them because there was some good in amongst all the dropped ball, poor kicks and poor decision making.
A series win against Ireland would do wonders for the confidence of the squad. Nothing for granted and more work needed and all that. But for me that can be a great positive for improvement.
We'll win. I sound like you, but I'm confident that we'll see a response.
Until the next WC, we'll be up and down, then our next coach will have a chance to build a squad for the future.
Paps likely as captain. The key point is identifying the right game drivers now and having them in place - let's hope Fakatava is as good as he looks.
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@gt12 I have great faith in Fakatava, would be keen to see him start against Argentina & possibly Aussie in the rugby championship, will be interesting to see how long Perofeta has to wait until he's introduced into the test 23
@FakatavaAllBlack said in All Blacks 2022:
@gt12 I have great faith in Fakatava, would be keen to see him start against Argentina & possibly Aussie in the rugby championship, will be interesting to see how long Perofeta has to wait until he's introduced into the test 23
Yeah, I don't want to really think about first five, as we'll lose Barrett, Mo'unga most likely, and probably Dmac (possibly could stay if he became no.1).
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@Gunner said in All Blacks 2022:
In a way I hope we lose next week, lose the Bledisloe and Rugby Championship, it’ll be the only way for us to get a new coach.
Nah.
I think we can win next Saturday. Change a few tactics, not all of them because there was some good in amongst all the dropped ball, poor kicks and poor decision making.
A series win against Ireland would do wonders for the confidence of the squad. Nothing for granted and more work needed and all that. But for me that can be a great positive for improvement.
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:
A series win against Ireland would do wonders for the confidence of the squad.
That's a pretty sad state of affairs though eh.
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@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:
A series win against Ireland would do wonders for the confidence of the squad.
That's a pretty sad state of affairs though eh.
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:
A series win against Ireland would do wonders for the confidence of the squad.
That's a pretty sad state of affairs though eh.
If NZ squeak a win next week I very much doubt there'll be a host of celebratory hands in the air.
They would have been targeting 3 zip as the only pass mark.
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:
A series win against Ireland would do wonders for the confidence of the squad.
That's a pretty sad state of affairs though eh.
If NZ squeak a win next week I very much doubt there'll be a host of celebratory hands in the air.
They would have been targeting 3 zip as the only pass mark.
@Frye said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:
A series win against Ireland would do wonders for the confidence of the squad.
That's a pretty sad state of affairs though eh.
If NZ squeak a win next week I very much doubt there'll be a host of celebratory hands in the air.
They would have been targeting 3 zip as the only pass mark.
Not foster, he has low expectations, and high excuses
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:
A series win against Ireland would do wonders for the confidence of the squad.
That's a pretty sad state of affairs though eh.
If NZ squeak a win next week I very much doubt there'll be a host of celebratory hands in the air.
They would have been targeting 3 zip as the only pass mark.
@Frye as I said in the other thread, surely that and retaining the Bledisloe should have been non-negotiable KPIs for this season.
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
Stuart is an Ardie fan too.
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
Stuart is an Ardie fan too.
Cahooy was pretty good on the wing for the All Blacks during the WC it has to be said.
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@Frye as I said in the other thread, surely that and retaining the Bledisloe should have been non-negotiable KPIs for this season.
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:
@Frye as I said in the other thread, surely that and retaining the Bledisloe should have been non-negotiable KPIs for this season.
not saying its a pass and it hasnt happened yet, but I thought before the series a 2-1 win might be where we are at right now with this current ireland side , regardless of the history
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:
@Frye as I said in the other thread, surely that and retaining the Bledisloe should have been non-negotiable KPIs for this season.
not saying its a pass and it hasnt happened yet, but I thought before the series a 2-1 win might be where we are at right now with this current ireland side , regardless of the history
@kiwiinmelb wasnt it about a year ago they would have been negotiating his contract?
At that time, surely NZR had 2022 KPIs written in, that was pre-NH tour...
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:
A series win against Ireland would do wonders for the confidence of the squad.
That's a pretty sad state of affairs though eh.
If NZ squeak a win next week I very much doubt there'll be a host of celebratory hands in the air.
They would have been targeting 3 zip as the only pass mark.
@Frye said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:
A series win against Ireland would do wonders for the confidence of the squad.
That's a pretty sad state of affairs though eh.
If NZ squeak a win next week I very much doubt there'll be a host of celebratory hands in the air.
They would have been targeting 3 zip as the only pass mark.
I’m not sure if it was or wasn’t, but from my perspective we have a depth problem on a couple of fronts - we lack some hardened test players in several positions and for some positions we are only one injury away from being exposed. So we are vulnerable to losing (as much as any other tier 1 test team out there).
These aren’t excuses for Foster but areas where we need to continually work and build on. What’s on Foster and the other coaches is if they doing the things to address that.
