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  • KirwanK Kirwan

    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

    @gt12 Schmidt fixed the Blues attack this year, an obvious solution there.

    Makes the photo above even more powerful. They should never have brought him (Moaar) back, he had zero record of success.

    Same with Plumtree really.

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    @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

    @gt12 Schmidt fixed the Blues attack this year, an obvious solution there.

    Makes the photo above even more powerful. They should never have brought him (Moaar) back, he had zero record of success.

    Same with Plumtree really.

    Don’t get me wrong, they’re all weak by international standards, but Mooar jumps out as a picking winners from zero form selection. Should never have been in the conversation.

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    • gt12G gt12

      @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

      @gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:

      @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

      @gt12 Schmidt fixed the Blues attack this year, an obvious solution there.

      Makes the photo above even more powerful. They should never have brought him (Moaar) back, he had zero record of success.

      Same with Plumtree really.

      Don’t get me wrong, they’re all weak by international standards, but Mooar jumps out as a picking winners from zero form selection. Should never have been in the conversation.

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      @gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:

      @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

      @gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:

      @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

      @gt12 Schmidt fixed the Blues attack this year, an obvious solution there.

      Makes the photo above even more powerful. They should never have brought him (Moaar) back, he had zero record of success.

      Same with Plumtree really.

      Don’t get me wrong, they’re all weak by international standards, but Mooar jumps out as a picking winners from zero form selection. Should never have been in the conversation.

      Yep, only guy I can think of who "seemed" to come from nowhere over the last few years (ok probably more than a decade) was Cron, but he had the results to back him up I imagine. I have zero knowledge about Mooar's past and regularly forget he's even a coach until his name pops up on here.

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      • gt12G gt12

        @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

        @gt12 Schmidt fixed the Blues attack this year, an obvious solution there.

        Makes the photo above even more powerful. They should never have brought him (Moaar) back, he had zero record of success.

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        #3441

        @gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:

        @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

        @gt12 Schmidt fixed the Blues attack this year, an obvious solution there.

        Makes the photo above even more powerful. They should never have brought him (Moaar) back, he had zero record of success.

        Not saying I think he should be an assistant AB coach, but how do we know he's not good? Apart from hindsight of course. I am probably wrong, but I don't recall anyone bemoaning his appointment until someone on here said Robertson didn't rate him.

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        • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

          @gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:

          @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

          @gt12 Schmidt fixed the Blues attack this year, an obvious solution there.

          Makes the photo above even more powerful. They should never have brought him (Moaar) back, he had zero record of success.

          Not saying I think he should be an assistant AB coach, but how do we know he's not good? Apart from hindsight of course. I am probably wrong, but I don't recall anyone bemoaning his appointment until someone on here said Robertson didn't rate him.

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          #3442

          @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:

          @gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:

          @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

          @gt12 Schmidt fixed the Blues attack this year, an obvious solution there.

          Makes the photo above even more powerful. They should never have brought him (Moaar) back, he had zero record of success.

          Not saying I think he should be an assistant AB coach, but how do we know he's not good? Apart from hindsight of course. I am probably wrong, but I don't recall anyone bemoaning his appointment until someone on here said Robertson didn't rate him.

          See here, here, here, and here

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          • gt12G gt12

            @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:

            @gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:

            @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

            @gt12 Schmidt fixed the Blues attack this year, an obvious solution there.

            Makes the photo above even more powerful. They should never have brought him (Moaar) back, he had zero record of success.

            Not saying I think he should be an assistant AB coach, but how do we know he's not good? Apart from hindsight of course. I am probably wrong, but I don't recall anyone bemoaning his appointment until someone on here said Robertson didn't rate him.

            See here, here, here, and here

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            #3443

            @gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:

            @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:

            @gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:

            @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

            @gt12 Schmidt fixed the Blues attack this year, an obvious solution there.

            Makes the photo above even more powerful. They should never have brought him (Moaar) back, he had zero record of success.

            Not saying I think he should be an assistant AB coach, but how do we know he's not good? Apart from hindsight of course. I am probably wrong, but I don't recall anyone bemoaning his appointment until someone on here said Robertson didn't rate him.

            See here, here, here, and here

            Cheers. Sort of recalled @Chris but not the others.

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            • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

              @gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:

              @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:

              @gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:

              @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

              @gt12 Schmidt fixed the Blues attack this year, an obvious solution there.

              Makes the photo above even more powerful. They should never have brought him (Moaar) back, he had zero record of success.

              Not saying I think he should be an assistant AB coach, but how do we know he's not good? Apart from hindsight of course. I am probably wrong, but I don't recall anyone bemoaning his appointment until someone on here said Robertson didn't rate him.

              See here, here, here, and here

              Cheers. Sort of recalled @Chris but not the others.

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              #3444

              @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:

              @gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:

              @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:

              @gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:

              @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

              @gt12 Schmidt fixed the Blues attack this year, an obvious solution there.

              Makes the photo above even more powerful. They should never have brought him (Moaar) back, he had zero record of success.

              Not saying I think he should be an assistant AB coach, but how do we know he's not good? Apart from hindsight of course. I am probably wrong, but I don't recall anyone bemoaning his appointment until someone on here said Robertson didn't rate him.

              See here, here, here, and here

              Cheers. Sort of recalled @Chris but not the others.

              @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:

              @gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:

              @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:

              @gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:

              @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

              @gt12 Schmidt fixed the Blues attack this year, an obvious solution there.

              Makes the photo above even more powerful. They should never have brought him (Moaar) back, he had zero record of success.

              Not saying I think he should be an assistant AB coach, but how do we know he's not good? Apart from hindsight of course. I am probably wrong, but I don't recall anyone bemoaning his appointment until someone on here said Robertson didn't rate him.

              See here, here, here, and here

              Cheers. Sort of recalled @Chris but not the others.

              I heard he didn’t fit into the Crusaders to well and Razor wanted to move him on.
              Although a couple of the backs did speak highly of him.

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              • ChrisC Chris

                @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:

                @gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:

                @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:

                @gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:

                @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                @gt12 Schmidt fixed the Blues attack this year, an obvious solution there.

                Makes the photo above even more powerful. They should never have brought him (Moaar) back, he had zero record of success.

                Not saying I think he should be an assistant AB coach, but how do we know he's not good? Apart from hindsight of course. I am probably wrong, but I don't recall anyone bemoaning his appointment until someone on here said Robertson didn't rate him.

                See here, here, here, and here

                Cheers. Sort of recalled @Chris but not the others.

                @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:

                @gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:

                @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:

                @gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:

                @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                @gt12 Schmidt fixed the Blues attack this year, an obvious solution there.

                Makes the photo above even more powerful. They should never have brought him (Moaar) back, he had zero record of success.

                Not saying I think he should be an assistant AB coach, but how do we know he's not good? Apart from hindsight of course. I am probably wrong, but I don't recall anyone bemoaning his appointment until someone on here said Robertson didn't rate him.

                See here, here, here, and here

                Cheers. Sort of recalled @Chris but not the others.

                I heard he didn’t fit into the Crusaders to well and Razor wanted to move him on.
                Although a couple of the backs did speak highly of him.

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                @Chris could pass as George Bridge's older brother

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                • GrooterG Grooter

                  @Chris could pass as George Bridge's older brother

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                  @FakatavaAllBlack said in All Blacks 2022:

                  @Chris could pass as George Bridge's older brother

                  Maybe on looks but far apart in personality.

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                    #3447

                    https://twitter.com/paulcullystuff/status/1548193963995066369?s=20&t=agDskuiK27aNCDnXkKr0aQ

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                    • TimT Tim

                      https://twitter.com/paulcullystuff/status/1548193963995066369?s=20&t=agDskuiK27aNCDnXkKr0aQ

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                      #3448

                      @Tim

                      Strange choice for a new coach, but I’m prepared to give him a go.

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                      • TimT Tim

                        https://twitter.com/paulcullystuff/status/1548193963995066369?s=20&t=agDskuiK27aNCDnXkKr0aQ

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                        @Tim said in All Blacks 2022:

                        https://twitter.com/paulcullystuff/status/1548193963995066369?s=20&t=agDskuiK27aNCDnXkKr0aQ

                        Will he accept the call though? Might recognise a sinking ship…

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                          Bones
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                          You know what's irked me, seeing true blue kiwis absolutely dining out on beating their own country. I can't even greatly enjoy a win over an old club, I'll be fucked if I'm all glee and rainbows at beating the ABs.

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                          • BonesB Bones

                            You know what's irked me, seeing true blue kiwis absolutely dining out on beating their own country. I can't even greatly enjoy a win over an old club, I'll be fucked if I'm all glee and rainbows at beating the ABs.

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                            @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                            You know what's irked me, seeing true blue kiwis absolutely dining out on beating their own country. I can't even greatly enjoy a win over an old club, I'll be fucked if I'm all glee and rainbows at beating the ABs.

                            I suppose they were “rejected” by NZ and been a raging success in Ireland. How Francis saili got selected ahead of Aki, I’ll never know. A black mark for Hansen there.

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                            • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                              @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                              You know what's irked me, seeing true blue kiwis absolutely dining out on beating their own country. I can't even greatly enjoy a win over an old club, I'll be fucked if I'm all glee and rainbows at beating the ABs.

                              I suppose they were “rejected” by NZ and been a raging success in Ireland. How Francis saili got selected ahead of Aki, I’ll never know. A black mark for Hansen there.

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                              #3452

                              @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                              You know what's irked me, seeing true blue kiwis absolutely dining out on beating their own country. I can't even greatly enjoy a win over an old club, I'll be fucked if I'm all glee and rainbows at beating the ABs.

                              I suppose they were “rejected” by NZ and been a raging success in Ireland. How Francis saili got selected ahead of Aki, I’ll never know. A black mark for Hansen there.

                              Aki never gave it a chance. Had a good season then buggered off.

                              Edit: to me he's the equivalent of TUJ, but he was nowhere near as good as those ahead of him.

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                              • BonesB Bones

                                You know what's irked me, seeing true blue kiwis absolutely dining out on beating their own country. I can't even greatly enjoy a win over an old club, I'll be fucked if I'm all glee and rainbows at beating the ABs.

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                                  Drastic action needed now , like has been said you will and can be beaten , but it’s the direction less nature of our performances that is most alarming, we look like we don’t have a clue how to play this well drilled Ireland team .

                                  And this has been going on for a few years now , and the negative results are starting to weigh us down I believe, it’s gone too far to be turned around now. I honestly believe that, I think foster has taken this side too far into a deep black hole.

                                  I believe the time is right for a change, and I don’t believe it’s too late in regards to the next wc, look at South Africa at the last , the timing would be similar. And I still believe we have the talent in the country to be one of the top contenders. A drastic refresh needed for that to happen though .

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                                  • WingerW Winger

                                    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    @Winger said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    Although the coaches should have stressed the never won in Nz before before the first test

                                    Seriously?

                                    If the coaches have to tell a bloke who's captained the All Blacks that their opponents have never won in NZ, then we are truly fucked

                                    Never won a TEST in NZ.

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                                    @Winger
                                    What about a world cups? 😀

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                                    • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                                      Drastic action needed now , like has been said you will and can be beaten , but it’s the direction less nature of our performances that is most alarming, we look like we don’t have a clue how to play this well drilled Ireland team .

                                      And this has been going on for a few years now , and the negative results are starting to weigh us down I believe, it’s gone too far to be turned around now. I honestly believe that, I think foster has taken this side too far into a deep black hole.

                                      I believe the time is right for a change, and I don’t believe it’s too late in regards to the next wc, look at South Africa at the last , the timing would be similar. And I still believe we have the talent in the country to be one of the top contenders. A drastic refresh needed for that to happen though .

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                                      DaGrubster
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                                      @kiwiinmelb

                                      Ireland are a progressive modern rugby side. NZ are not.

                                      That’s why we didn’t have an answer in the last 2 tests!
                                      Makes you wonder how we won the first - oh that’s right Fozzie had to self isolate from the ABs!!

                                      People saying it is too late to change before the RWC.

                                      Do nothing and we may not get out of the pool. Under present mgmt the World Cup is a write off so may as well let someone have a crack with low expectations - I favour Schmidt and Robertson- Schmidt can bring international and RWC experience and taking a bit of pressure off Robertson

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                                        @kiwiinmelb

                                        Ireland are a progressive modern rugby side. NZ are not.

                                        That’s why we didn’t have an answer in the last 2 tests!
                                        Makes you wonder how we won the first - oh that’s right Fozzie had to self isolate from the ABs!!

                                        People saying it is too late to change before the RWC.

                                        Do nothing and we may not get out of the pool. Under present mgmt the World Cup is a write off so may as well let someone have a crack with low expectations - I favour Schmidt and Robertson- Schmidt can bring international and RWC experience and taking a bit of pressure off Robertson

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                                        @DaGrubster I don’t believe it is too late, I mean longer would be better yes , but how many times do teams change coaches when things aren’t working and the improvement is instant ?

                                        It’s not like at club level sometimes where a team might not have the players , do we honest honestly think man for man Ireland are clearly more talented than what we have in nz ?

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                                        • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                                          @DaGrubster I don’t believe it is too late, I mean longer would be better yes , but how many times do teams change coaches when things aren’t working and the improvement is instant ?

                                          It’s not like at club level sometimes where a team might not have the players , do we honest honestly think man for man Ireland are clearly more talented than what we have in nz ?

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                                          @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @DaGrubster I don’t believe it is too late, I mean longer would be better yes , but how many times do teams change coaches when things aren’t working and the improvement is instant ?

                                          It’s not like at club level sometimes where a team might not have the players , do we honest honestly think man for man Ireland are clearly more talented than what we have in nz ?

                                          Its never to late for a new gameplan, one to unlock defenses without aimless kicking.

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