Foster, Robertson etc
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@Jailbreak7 said in Foster must go:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:
@Tim said in Foster must go:
@Victor-Meldrew Do you think he wants to be a head coach? He'd be my pick if he does.
I haven't a clue. But who wouldn't want to coach the All Blacks and not just be a mentor? Persuade him to take over until RWC2023 for starters
He'd be a safe pair of hands and then be able hand over to Rennie, Jesus, Joseph or another assistant.
Like the thought of Jesus being an assistant
Jesus?
@canefan said in Foster must go:
@Jailbreak7 said in Foster must go:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:
@Tim said in Foster must go:
@Victor-Meldrew Do you think he wants to be a head coach? He'd be my pick if he does.
I haven't a clue. But who wouldn't want to coach the All Blacks and not just be a mentor? Persuade him to take over until RWC2023 for starters
He'd be a safe pair of hands and then be able hand over to Rennie, Jesus, Joseph or another assistant.
Like the thought of Jesus being an assistant
Jesus?
Jesus Crobinson. He's a saviour according to some.
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@canefan said in Foster must go:
@Jailbreak7 said in Foster must go:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:
@Tim said in Foster must go:
@Victor-Meldrew Do you think he wants to be a head coach? He'd be my pick if he does.
I haven't a clue. But who wouldn't want to coach the All Blacks and not just be a mentor? Persuade him to take over until RWC2023 for starters
He'd be a safe pair of hands and then be able hand over to Rennie, Jesus, Joseph or another assistant.
Like the thought of Jesus being an assistant
Jesus?
Jesus Crobinson. He's a saviour according to some.
@Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:
@canefan said in Foster must go:
@Jailbreak7 said in Foster must go:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:
@Tim said in Foster must go:
@Victor-Meldrew Do you think he wants to be a head coach? He'd be my pick if he does.
I haven't a clue. But who wouldn't want to coach the All Blacks and not just be a mentor? Persuade him to take over until RWC2023 for starters
He'd be a safe pair of hands and then be able hand over to Rennie, Jesus, Joseph or another assistant.
Like the thought of Jesus being an assistant
Jesus?
Jesus Crobinson.
Thought so. I wouldn't want to be Fozz's assistant either. What does he have to gain, how much of himself can he tangibly give to the team without being the HC? Fozz is beyond redemption and Scott is the winningest coach in Super Rugby. I'm no Razor fanboy. But he needs to be given full control
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@canefan said in Foster must go:
@Jailbreak7 said in Foster must go:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:
@Tim said in Foster must go:
@Victor-Meldrew Do you think he wants to be a head coach? He'd be my pick if he does.
I haven't a clue. But who wouldn't want to coach the All Blacks and not just be a mentor? Persuade him to take over until RWC2023 for starters
He'd be a safe pair of hands and then be able hand over to Rennie, Jesus, Joseph or another assistant.
Like the thought of Jesus being an assistant
Jesus?
Jesus Crobinson. He's a saviour according to some.
@Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:
@canefan said in Foster must go:
@Jailbreak7 said in Foster must go:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:
@Tim said in Foster must go:
@Victor-Meldrew Do you think he wants to be a head coach? He'd be my pick if he does.
I haven't a clue. But who wouldn't want to coach the All Blacks and not just be a mentor? Persuade him to take over until RWC2023 for starters
He'd be a safe pair of hands and then be able hand over to Rennie, Jesus, Joseph or another assistant.
Like the thought of Jesus being an assistant
Jesus?
Jesus Crobinson. He's a saviour according to some.
What the CEO Robinson ?
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:
@Tim said in Foster must go:
@Victor-Meldrew Do you think he wants to be a head coach? He'd be my pick if he does.
I haven't a clue. But who wouldn't want to coach the All Blacks and not just be a mentor? Persuade him to take over until RWC2023 for starters
He'd be a safe pair of hands and then be able hand over to Rennie, Jesus, Joseph or another assistant.
Like the thought of Jesus being an assistant
@Jailbreak7 He'd have the best water bottles.
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@stodders Foz has never done well as a head coach. 8 years of pain with the Chiefs, Ronnie takes 2 titles in his first 2 years.
Not his happy place - like Wayne Smith, but the poor man's version! -
Who would be the assistant coaches?
Jason Ryan (Fiji) and Tom Coventry (Samoa) have done good work as forward coaches for PI teams.
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@canefan said in Foster must go:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:
Would meet the (understandable) NZR requirement of continuity while being a pretty fresh broom with a proven track record at Test level.
Before 2007 we had a slash and burn mentality. Continuity was the right decision then. But this isn't 2007, the GH/Shag coaching tree has outlived its time. Burn it all down
Foster was the only part of the GH/Shag coaching tree that still existed at the end of 2019 as far as I can see. Arguably the tree is sprouting again with Cron coming back in as a mentor.
But its less about the tree and more about cutting off the dead wood. At the end of 2019 the old wood sprouted legs and walked away leaving the NZRFU with the dead wood. Which they planted and have reaped the fruit of their decision.
@PecoTrain yes, maybe one nepotism appointment, after WINNING a RWC is acceptable. But after losing the semi,.it should have been a new broom sweeping clean. It wasn't, and we're now here, lowest point in AB rugby ever.
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@BartMan said in Foster must go:
@MN5 that was the only good thing to.cpmw.out of the test.
The fact this result brings @BartMan out if hibernation says it all.
Who next, @Red-Beard ? Any others ?
@MN5 said in Foster must go:
@BartMan said in Foster must go:
@MN5 that was the only good thing to.cpmw.out of the test.
The fact this result brings @BartMan out if hibernation says it all.
Who next, @Red-Beard ? Any others ?
Davidav?
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@Duluth said in Foster must go:
The realistic option is Schmidt
He starts his AB contract right now. So no other logistics needed.
Does he want a head coach role though?
@No-Quarter said in Foster must go:
@Duluth said in Foster must go:
The realistic option is Schmidt
He starts his AB contract right now. So no other logistics needed.
Does he want a head coach role though?
My guess is he'd accept an interim role
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Good the drums are beating to replace Foster.
@Kirwan said in Foster must go:
Good the drums are beating to replace Foster.
Those drums need to beat a fuck load harder
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So it's been brought up on the roar, there's a presser tomorrow 9 am, is that standard? I think it is but please tell me it's not
@Machpants said in Foster must go:
So it's been brought up on the roar, there's a presser tomorrow 9 am, is that standard? I think it is but please tell me it's not
This will be the NZRU being super organised and naming the squad to tour SA
Got to get those tickets booked early to get the best deal.NZ rugby....leading the way in getting value for money
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@hydro11 said in Foster must go:
It's hard to accept that that Irish team should beat us in a series at home. They really shouldn't based on talent. However, they are just much smarter than us.
I think we make a mistake by focusing too much on Foster. I don't really understand why Laulala did that in his own 22 in the first half. An Irish prop doesn't do that. They know better. That's a fundamental error in the way we play rugby as a nation - not just down to Foster.
But, yes, Foster must go.
And why are the Irish smarter than us? Where are the skills coming from within the AB coaching set up to make us smarter?
We have Feek (scrums), Plumtree (forwards) and Mooar (attack) which were supplemented by Strawbridge (skills coach) with Mike Cron brought back to assist Feek and Plumtree and Schmidt brought into assist Foster. There should be some brains amongst that group surely? Or is it an acknowledgement that bring in Cron/Schmidt who have been effectively retired for 3 years might just drag the skill sets towards current tactics speak volumes about what the coaching team are capable of?
Personally, if I was Foster and the NZRFU brought in Cron and Schmidt to "assist" I'd assume the exit door was half way open. Or at least just a historic series loss away. Or that may just be me being optimistic and Fosters long term plan of going into the RWC as a genuine underdog is still on track?
For me, the biggest issue with Foster has been not just his individual short comings but that his coaching team was such a step down from the previous coaching team and he couldn't attract any of the acknowledged talent that was out there. You don't build a successful organisation by promoting all of your average employees - they have to have some clear talent to allow those underneath them to respect them and work hard.
The other surprise is that Caleb Ralph appears to be involved in coaching in Australia and Foster hasn't added him to Fosters coaching team to round it out and re-unite him with Feek while giving everyone aside from a few Cantabs someone to direct their anger at in-place of Foster. Or was Foster worried that such an injection of talent would make a difference and highlight the real issue?
@PecoTrain welcome back fella. Foster has bought on a Fern reunion tonight!
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@MN5 said in Foster must go:
@BartMan said in Foster must go:
@MN5 that was the only good thing to.cpmw.out of the test.
The fact this result brings @BartMan out if hibernation says it all.
Who next, @Red-Beard ? Any others ?
Davidav?
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Foster must go:
@MN5 said in Foster must go:
@BartMan said in Foster must go:
@MN5 that was the only good thing to.cpmw.out of the test.
The fact this result brings @BartMan out if hibernation says it all.
Who next, @Red-Beard ? Any others ?
Davidav?
Let’s not get carried away…
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I’m going to bet that one (Moaar) or maybe two (Moaar, Macleod) assistants get the ass, but that Fozzie stays on.
Will they even be that brave?
@gt12 said in Foster must go:
I’m going to bet that one (Moaar) or maybe two (Moaar, Macleod) assistants get the ass, but that Fozzie stays on.
Will they even be that brave?
But Foster chose them. And he hasn't sought to replace them. So again, his decision making is called into question.
If the NZRU force him to change his assistants, what is to say the replacements fare any better if the man at the top is the handbrake?
