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@ACT-Crusader said in Trans in sport / Laurel Hubbard:
@voodoo wonder if she is related to the Lawton family that produced several Wallabies over different generations?
This is a rugby site, so thought I’d ask
Dunno, think her Father was a national-level runner though
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@booboo on point 1, when I was in grade 5, I tried out for the school Aussie rules team. There were about 80 boys from across grade 5 and 6 that tried out. Only me and one other grade 5 boy made the team and the rest were grade 6 kids. A few of us convinced one of our friends, a grade 6 girl, to try out too.
She would play footy at lunch time with and knew how to play.
She was tall and slim and could jump higher than the rest of us. She was fast too. She made the team as our ruck.
This wasn’t a case of making up the numbers or some crusade by a teacher. This was 35 years ago and sure there were no girls teams for footy, but she could play and her athleticism was too good to pass over.
She wore headgear and a mouth guard like a couple of the boys in the team.
She was easily in the top 3 best players for us.
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@ACT-Crusader @voodoo there's 2
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Megan Rapinoe: Banning Transgender Athletes from Women's Sports Is 'Disgusting'
In an interview this week, U.S. women’s soccer player Megan Rapinoe called bans on transgender
Rapinoe’s recent activist logic:
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Demands equal pay for “women” athletes.
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Insists that sheilas with testicles qualify as “women.”
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What a difference a day makes.
Pt 1: Sunday, June 19
Pt 2: Monday, June 20
FIFA, World Athletics review transgender rules after swimming's change
World soccer's governing body FIFA and World Athletics said on Monday that they are reviewing their transgender eligibility policies after swimming passed new rules that restrict transgender participation in women's events.
Thank god somebody at FINA had a spine and common sense. FINA leads, FIFA follows.
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I really hope s/he wins.
The University of Pennsylvania has nominated transgender swimmer Lia Thomas for the 2022 NCAA Woman of the Year award, the American college sports regulating body said.
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@MajorRage I'm with @Kid-Chocolate
Just for the shits and giggles.
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Party time, excellent.
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Sounds a good outcome.
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Lia Thomas Loses Bid for NCAA Woman of the Year Award
Biologial male “transgender” swimmer Will “Lia” Thomas’ bid for NCAA’s 2022 Woman of the Year came t
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@Kid-Chocolate thank goodness. Never should have been considered.
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@Kid-Chocolate I’m adamantly against trans women competing on equal terms in women’s sports, and I think Thomas does sports no favours on that front.
But I have to say the article you linked to is a shitty piece of writing.
Whatever we think about the impact of trans activism on women’s lives, Lia Thomas is perfectly entitled to call herself Lia and to refer to herself as a trans woman if she wants, and she hurts nobody if she does so. There’s no need to the writer to put those things in quotation marks, that’s just being an arsehole.
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@JC You’re right that he can call himself whatever he wants to but Thomas is biologically male whether he likes it or not. No amount of hormones and bodily reconstruction can change this. He has invited criticism but competing against females with an unfair advantage. Thomas knows this whether he admits to it or not. Trans athletes have injected themselves into these situations where common sense dictates it is wrong. Trans athletes should create their own competitions and not disrupt biological norms of competition.
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I'm starting to err to the right-wing on this.
@JC said in Trans in sport / Laurel Hubbard:
Whatever we think about the impact of trans activism on women’s lives, Lia Thomas is perfectly entitled to call herself Lia and to refer to herself as a trans woman if she wants, and she hurts nobody if she does so. There’s no need to the writer to put those things in quotation marks, that’s just being an arsehole.
See I think I do agree with the above.
But, and Imentioned this on another thread a while back, lots going on in my world these days with menopause. As all this goes down, I'm learning more and more about the female part of the reproduction cycle. Not what you learn in school, the real world. The hormone changes etc. Watching my wife go through two pregnancies was amazing, and honestly, completely unrelatable. Now, as the monthly cycles are changing, it's really shit. And we, as blokes have to be honest here. We really got the good end of the deal. As much as we joke about 1 grumpy week a month etc, it really is much more than that and most of it, in fact almost all of it ... is pretty shithouse.
Thus, I think woman have every right in the world, to be up in arms when trans woman are treated 100% like woman.
Unless you go through all of that, I just can't see how you really understand what it actually means to be a woman & why you should be granted all of the rights that are associated with that.
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@MajorRage said in Trans in sport / Laurel Hubbard:
I'm starting to err to the right-wing on this.
Lovely phrasing.
100% agree with the entire post, BTW.For what it's worth: The one person I've met "IRL" - with the most virulent opinions on this - has a vagina, and fucking detests trans in women-categorised classes.
I still don't know what the answer is, but the best idea I've heard so far is dismissing "Mens" and "Womens" classifications in sport (fuck, it's sexist, innit?) - and bring in "Open", and ... let each individual agency open up whatever other catergories the fuck they want...
Weight, Current-Testosterone, Testosterone-as-measured-at-puberty, height, identified-sexuality, current-penis-or-vagina, birth-penis-or-vagina, fucking... whatever they want.
Boxing/UFC categorises by weight... is that fattist? Just... Open or "choose the class you want to compete in, and change your weight, dick, whatever - to reach the limit" -
To complicate matters further... I watched something recently where some 'disabled' dude wanted to be able to compete in the Olympics against 'non-disabled'...
I think he was a long-jumper?
And had a prosthetic leg.
A prosthetic leg that was literally a fucking spring.
He's gonna nail the "Open" class. So then... Olympics categories become... "Open", "non-prosthetic-with-birth-dick", "non-prosthetic-with-birth-vagina", "non-prosthetic-who-tested-below-testerone-level-X-at-age-12", etc
Transgender debate, in sport, in general
Incarcerated transgender woman Demi Minor impregnates two inmates at...
