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  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

    @ACT-Crusader that's a pretty good post you sensible bastard

    Everything good is individual stuff. Ardie's two tries in the first. Reece's try in the first. Hell, all 3 tries in this test were guys taking it upon themselves to do something amazing.

    Is there a sense that no one is willing to do the selfless thing to help the side? I look at Ardie knocking on a couple of times trying a frantic pick and go, rather than just sealing the ball and allowing play to develop elsewhere (he's not the only one, and i don't want to pick holes in a good game, but they were glaring examples of released pressure).

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    @mariner4life some players are obviously feeling the pressure more than others. Senior players most likely.

    I doubt Ardie reads the Fern, but if you do uso (that’s my Sonny Bill commentary for the day), you are a hell of an athlete and a smart footy player, but it doesn’t always have to be the big play! And how about a move to 2nd 5 😉

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      There was one run by Akira where he attracted three defenders, made ground and got the team moving forwards. Vaai comes in for the cleanout and just falls over and we get turned over.

      Our tight forwards are powder puffs.

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      • KirwanK Kirwan

        There was one run by Akira where he attracted three defenders, made ground and got the team moving forwards. Vaai comes in for the cleanout and just falls over and we get turned over.

        Our tight forwards are powder puffs.

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        @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

        There was one run by Akira where he attracted three defenders, made ground and got the team moving forwards. Vaai comes in for the cleanout and just falls over and we get turned over.

        Our tight forwards are powder puffs.

        I wouldn't say our tight forwards are powder puffs, but our clean out execution in general is woeful. Either go off their feet (falling or flying torpedo), turn up far too late, taking people way beyond what is deemed acceptable and the list goes on. There were a heap of clean outs missed.

        Sure the execution is on the players, but this is basic core skills coaching that appears to be missing as it is all to frequent from this current team.

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        • bayimportsB bayimports

          @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

          There was one run by Akira where he attracted three defenders, made ground and got the team moving forwards. Vaai comes in for the cleanout and just falls over and we get turned over.

          Our tight forwards are powder puffs.

          I wouldn't say our tight forwards are powder puffs, but our clean out execution in general is woeful. Either go off their feet (falling or flying torpedo), turn up far too late, taking people way beyond what is deemed acceptable and the list goes on. There were a heap of clean outs missed.

          Sure the execution is on the players, but this is basic core skills coaching that appears to be missing as it is all to frequent from this current team.

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          @bayimports said in All Blacks 2022:

          @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

          There was one run by Akira where he attracted three defenders, made ground and got the team moving forwards. Vaai comes in for the cleanout and just falls over and we get turned over.

          Our tight forwards are powder puffs.

          I wouldn't say our tight forwards are powder puffs, but our clean out execution in general is woeful. Either go off their feet (falling or flying torpedo), turn up far too late, taking people way beyond what is deemed acceptable and the list goes on. There were a heap of clean outs missed.

          Sure the execution is on the players, but this is basic core skills coaching that appears to be missing as it is all to frequent from this current team.

          Yeah, it's pretty much like the breakdown is not even an afterthought, it's a non-thought and the players have zero idea what to do or who will do it. Hence you get a random coming in flying from nowhere each time, who completely missies anyone anyway and is so inaccurate the ref just ignores him because all he's done is land two metres off to the side of the ruck on the opposition side, where no one is. Then you get a tight forward standing as a pillar to the side of an unprotected ruck, and a back looking, deciding whether they need to clean out, then deciding yes once the opposition have already walked onto our side, running in and immediately going backwards.

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          • BonesB Bones

            @bayimports said in All Blacks 2022:

            @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

            There was one run by Akira where he attracted three defenders, made ground and got the team moving forwards. Vaai comes in for the cleanout and just falls over and we get turned over.

            Our tight forwards are powder puffs.

            I wouldn't say our tight forwards are powder puffs, but our clean out execution in general is woeful. Either go off their feet (falling or flying torpedo), turn up far too late, taking people way beyond what is deemed acceptable and the list goes on. There were a heap of clean outs missed.

            Sure the execution is on the players, but this is basic core skills coaching that appears to be missing as it is all to frequent from this current team.

            Yeah, it's pretty much like the breakdown is not even an afterthought, it's a non-thought and the players have zero idea what to do or who will do it. Hence you get a random coming in flying from nowhere each time, who completely missies anyone anyway and is so inaccurate the ref just ignores him because all he's done is land two metres off to the side of the ruck on the opposition side, where no one is. Then you get a tight forward standing as a pillar to the side of an unprotected ruck, and a back looking, deciding whether they need to clean out, then deciding yes once the opposition have already walked onto our side, running in and immediately going backwards.

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            @Bones it's pretty depressing watching us play the last few weeks then going to watch the Oz vs Eng games. The rucks look like a different sport, very organised.

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              It might seem a little left field but after a very disappointing series I’d be throwing a bit of caution to the wind against the Boks and just go with combinations.

              We have a Blues 10-12-13 or a Saders 10-12-13 - both have flaws and positives, select one and roll with them.

              We have a Saders 11-14-15 in Fainga’anuku, Reece and Jordan - they work well and complement each other. Alternatively if the Saders 10-12-13 is used, go with a Blues back three of Clarke, Ioane and Beaudie/Perofeta

              Go with the Blues loose trio and the Saders locks.

              Front row - Bower at LH, Sami at hooker, and pray for some sort of miracle for TH.

              Halfback - one of the Highlanders

              Too many Canes you say, yep there’s two of them on the bench - Ardie and Jordie.

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              • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                It might seem a little left field but after a very disappointing series I’d be throwing a bit of caution to the wind against the Boks and just go with combinations.

                We have a Blues 10-12-13 or a Saders 10-12-13 - both have flaws and positives, select one and roll with them.

                We have a Saders 11-14-15 in Fainga’anuku, Reece and Jordan - they work well and complement each other. Alternatively if the Saders 10-12-13 is used, go with a Blues back three of Clarke, Ioane and Beaudie/Perofeta

                Go with the Blues loose trio and the Saders locks.

                Front row - Bower at LH, Sami at hooker, and pray for some sort of miracle for TH.

                Halfback - one of the Highlanders

                Too many Canes you say, yep there’s two of them on the bench - Ardie and Jordie.

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                @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:

                It might seem a little left field but after a very disappointing series I’d be throwing a bit of caution to the wind against the Boks and just go with combinations.

                We have a Blues 10-12-13 or a Saders 10-12-13 - both have flaws and positives, select one and roll with them.

                We have a Saders 11-14-15 in Fainga’anuku, Reece and Jordan - they work well and complement each other. Alternatively if the Saders 10-12-13 is used, go with a Blues back three of Clarke, Ioane and Beaudie/Perofeta

                Go with the Blues loose trio and the Saders locks.

                Front row - Bower at LH, Sami at hooker, and pray for some sort of miracle for TH.

                Halfback - one of the Highlanders

                Too many Canes you say, yep there’s two of them on the bench - Ardie and Jordie.

                The selections are moot. We have plenty of talented players, but they are not being utlisied properly. They look confused, disorganised and the tactics they are being asked to implement aren't working.

                I go back to the covid week where Schmidt probably was forced to simplify everything, we played much better.

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                • KirwanK Kirwan

                  @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:

                  It might seem a little left field but after a very disappointing series I’d be throwing a bit of caution to the wind against the Boks and just go with combinations.

                  We have a Blues 10-12-13 or a Saders 10-12-13 - both have flaws and positives, select one and roll with them.

                  We have a Saders 11-14-15 in Fainga’anuku, Reece and Jordan - they work well and complement each other. Alternatively if the Saders 10-12-13 is used, go with a Blues back three of Clarke, Ioane and Beaudie/Perofeta

                  Go with the Blues loose trio and the Saders locks.

                  Front row - Bower at LH, Sami at hooker, and pray for some sort of miracle for TH.

                  Halfback - one of the Highlanders

                  Too many Canes you say, yep there’s two of them on the bench - Ardie and Jordie.

                  The selections are moot. We have plenty of talented players, but they are not being utlisied properly. They look confused, disorganised and the tactics they are being asked to implement aren't working.

                  I go back to the covid week where Schmidt probably was forced to simplify everything, we played much better.

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                  @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                  I go back to the covid week where Schmidt probably was forced to simplify everything, we played much better.

                  I would put it more as the Irish did not play well, rather than us playing better. The warning signs were there for the ABs - the Irish appeared to make ground at will and they crossed our line multiple times. And about the only attacking tactic anyone could spot was Smith firing the ball wide of the Irish defensive channels.

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                  • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                    @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                    I go back to the covid week where Schmidt probably was forced to simplify everything, we played much better.

                    I would put it more as the Irish did not play well, rather than us playing better. The warning signs were there for the ABs - the Irish appeared to make ground at will and they crossed our line multiple times. And about the only attacking tactic anyone could spot was Smith firing the ball wide of the Irish defensive channels.

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                    @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:

                    @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                    I go back to the covid week where Schmidt probably was forced to simplify everything, we played much better.

                    I would put it more as the Irish did not play well, rather than us playing better. The warning signs were there for the ABs - the Irish appeared to make ground at will and they crossed our line multiple times. And about the only attacking tactic anyone could spot was Smith firing the ball wide of the Irish defensive channels.

                    Yeah, not sure if I was in the minority, but I said afterwards that it was a paper over the cracks win. I really didn't see anything that structured by the AB's it still seemed helter skelter, it's just that it worked.

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                    • BonesB Bones

                      @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                      I go back to the covid week where Schmidt probably was forced to simplify everything, we played much better.

                      I would put it more as the Irish did not play well, rather than us playing better. The warning signs were there for the ABs - the Irish appeared to make ground at will and they crossed our line multiple times. And about the only attacking tactic anyone could spot was Smith firing the ball wide of the Irish defensive channels.

                      Yeah, not sure if I was in the minority, but I said afterwards that it was a paper over the cracks win. I really didn't see anything that structured by the AB's it still seemed helter skelter, it's just that it worked.

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                      @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                      I go back to the covid week where Schmidt probably was forced to simplify everything, we played much better.

                      I would put it more as the Irish did not play well, rather than us playing better. The warning signs were there for the ABs - the Irish appeared to make ground at will and they crossed our line multiple times. And about the only attacking tactic anyone could spot was Smith firing the ball wide of the Irish defensive channels.

                      Yeah, not sure if I was in the minority, but I said afterwards that it was a paper over the cracks win. I really didn't see anything that structured by the AB's it still seemed helter skelter, it's just that it worked.

                      I said much the same thing at the time.

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                      • gt12G gt12

                        @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:

                        Whatever they do, I’d have this on the wall.

                        The entire rugby community, including world rugby, is enjoying the ABs being shown up.

                        Every coach - and AB - should have to look at shit like this and consider whether they are prepared to put some Mana back into the jersey.

                        If you cant deliver, leave.

                        Yeah nah. What NZ rugby needs is intelligence not emotion. More of this « channel your emotions” and less of an actuel game plan, strategy etc will get us nowhere.

                        Personally I think we need both.

                        They are against us.

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                        @gt12

                        Yup, because I don’t see much of either over the last few years

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                        • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                          @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                          I go back to the covid week where Schmidt probably was forced to simplify everything, we played much better.

                          I would put it more as the Irish did not play well, rather than us playing better. The warning signs were there for the ABs - the Irish appeared to make ground at will and they crossed our line multiple times. And about the only attacking tactic anyone could spot was Smith firing the ball wide of the Irish defensive channels.

                          Yeah, not sure if I was in the minority, but I said afterwards that it was a paper over the cracks win. I really didn't see anything that structured by the AB's it still seemed helter skelter, it's just that it worked.

                          I said much the same thing at the time.

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                          @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                          I go back to the covid week where Schmidt probably was forced to simplify everything, we played much better.

                          I would put it more as the Irish did not play well, rather than us playing better. The warning signs were there for the ABs - the Irish appeared to make ground at will and they crossed our line multiple times. And about the only attacking tactic anyone could spot was Smith firing the ball wide of the Irish defensive channels.

                          Yeah, not sure if I was in the minority, but I said afterwards that it was a paper over the cracks win. I really didn't see anything that structured by the AB's it still seemed helter skelter, it's just that it worked.

                          I said much the same thing at the time.

                          I'm a simple man. Since day 1 I said I didn't rate Foster as a coach.

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                          • BonesB Bones

                            @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:

                            @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                            I go back to the covid week where Schmidt probably was forced to simplify everything, we played much better.

                            I would put it more as the Irish did not play well, rather than us playing better. The warning signs were there for the ABs - the Irish appeared to make ground at will and they crossed our line multiple times. And about the only attacking tactic anyone could spot was Smith firing the ball wide of the Irish defensive channels.

                            Yeah, not sure if I was in the minority, but I said afterwards that it was a paper over the cracks win. I really didn't see anything that structured by the AB's it still seemed helter skelter, it's just that it worked.

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                            @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                            @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:

                            @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                            I go back to the covid week where Schmidt probably was forced to simplify everything, we played much better.

                            I would put it more as the Irish did not play well, rather than us playing better. The warning signs were there for the ABs - the Irish appeared to make ground at will and they crossed our line multiple times. And about the only attacking tactic anyone could spot was Smith firing the ball wide of the Irish defensive channels.

                            Yeah, not sure if I was in the minority, but I said afterwards that it was a paper over the cracks win. I really didn't see anything that structured by the AB's it still seemed helter skelter, it's just that it worked.

                            You weren't in the minority here, no one was that impressed. Apart from the media hacks

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                            • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                              @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                              I go back to the covid week where Schmidt probably was forced to simplify everything, we played much better.

                              I would put it more as the Irish did not play well, rather than us playing better. The warning signs were there for the ABs - the Irish appeared to make ground at will and they crossed our line multiple times. And about the only attacking tactic anyone could spot was Smith firing the ball wide of the Irish defensive channels.

                              Yeah, not sure if I was in the minority, but I said afterwards that it was a paper over the cracks win. I really didn't see anything that structured by the AB's it still seemed helter skelter, it's just that it worked.

                              I said much the same thing at the time.

                              I'm a simple man. Since day 1 I said I didn't rate Foster as a coach.

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                              @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                              I go back to the covid week where Schmidt probably was forced to simplify everything, we played much better.

                              I would put it more as the Irish did not play well, rather than us playing better. The warning signs were there for the ABs - the Irish appeared to make ground at will and they crossed our line multiple times. And about the only attacking tactic anyone could spot was Smith firing the ball wide of the Irish defensive channels.

                              Yeah, not sure if I was in the minority, but I said afterwards that it was a paper over the cracks win. I really didn't see anything that structured by the AB's it still seemed helter skelter, it's just that it worked.

                              I said much the same thing at the time.

                              I'm a simple man. Since day 1 I said I didn't rate Foster as a coach.

                              Along with most of the Fern

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                                @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                                @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:

                                @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                                I go back to the covid week where Schmidt probably was forced to simplify everything, we played much better.

                                I would put it more as the Irish did not play well, rather than us playing better. The warning signs were there for the ABs - the Irish appeared to make ground at will and they crossed our line multiple times. And about the only attacking tactic anyone could spot was Smith firing the ball wide of the Irish defensive channels.

                                Yeah, not sure if I was in the minority, but I said afterwards that it was a paper over the cracks win. I really didn't see anything that structured by the AB's it still seemed helter skelter, it's just that it worked.

                                You weren't in the minority here, no one was that impressed. Apart from the media hacks

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                                @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                                @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                                @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:

                                @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                                I go back to the covid week where Schmidt probably was forced to simplify everything, we played much better.

                                I would put it more as the Irish did not play well, rather than us playing better. The warning signs were there for the ABs - the Irish appeared to make ground at will and they crossed our line multiple times. And about the only attacking tactic anyone could spot was Smith firing the ball wide of the Irish defensive channels.

                                Yeah, not sure if I was in the minority, but I said afterwards that it was a paper over the cracks win. I really didn't see anything that structured by the AB's it still seemed helter skelter, it's just that it worked.

                                You weren't in the minority here, no one was that impressed. Apart from the media hacks

                                Really? That wasn't the impression I got. Many seemed very pleased at supposedly seeing a plan that worked. Maybe I dreamed it.

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                                • BonesB Bones

                                  @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  I go back to the covid week where Schmidt probably was forced to simplify everything, we played much better.

                                  I would put it more as the Irish did not play well, rather than us playing better. The warning signs were there for the ABs - the Irish appeared to make ground at will and they crossed our line multiple times. And about the only attacking tactic anyone could spot was Smith firing the ball wide of the Irish defensive channels.

                                  Yeah, not sure if I was in the minority, but I said afterwards that it was a paper over the cracks win. I really didn't see anything that structured by the AB's it still seemed helter skelter, it's just that it worked.

                                  You weren't in the minority here, no one was that impressed. Apart from the media hacks

                                  Really? That wasn't the impression I got. Many seemed very pleased at supposedly seeing a plan that worked. Maybe I dreamed it.

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                                  @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  I go back to the covid week where Schmidt probably was forced to simplify everything, we played much better.

                                  I would put it more as the Irish did not play well, rather than us playing better. The warning signs were there for the ABs - the Irish appeared to make ground at will and they crossed our line multiple times. And about the only attacking tactic anyone could spot was Smith firing the ball wide of the Irish defensive channels.

                                  Yeah, not sure if I was in the minority, but I said afterwards that it was a paper over the cracks win. I really didn't see anything that structured by the AB's it still seemed helter skelter, it's just that it worked.

                                  You weren't in the minority here, no one was that impressed. Apart from the media hacks

                                  Really? That wasn't the impression I got. Many seemed very pleased at supposedly seeing a plan that worked. Maybe I dreamed it.

                                  IIRC the majority felt he didn't deserve the job based on

                                  1. The continuity argument fails when Shag and his crew had been found out since 2018 and Foster represented more of the same

                                  2. Foster hasn't won anything regardless of his ability as an assistant

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                                  • BonesB Bones

                                    @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    I go back to the covid week where Schmidt probably was forced to simplify everything, we played much better.

                                    I would put it more as the Irish did not play well, rather than us playing better. The warning signs were there for the ABs - the Irish appeared to make ground at will and they crossed our line multiple times. And about the only attacking tactic anyone could spot was Smith firing the ball wide of the Irish defensive channels.

                                    Yeah, not sure if I was in the minority, but I said afterwards that it was a paper over the cracks win. I really didn't see anything that structured by the AB's it still seemed helter skelter, it's just that it worked.

                                    You weren't in the minority here, no one was that impressed. Apart from the media hacks

                                    Really? That wasn't the impression I got. Many seemed very pleased at supposedly seeing a plan that worked. Maybe I dreamed it.

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                                    @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    I go back to the covid week where Schmidt probably was forced to simplify everything, we played much better.

                                    I would put it more as the Irish did not play well, rather than us playing better. The warning signs were there for the ABs - the Irish appeared to make ground at will and they crossed our line multiple times. And about the only attacking tactic anyone could spot was Smith firing the ball wide of the Irish defensive channels.

                                    Yeah, not sure if I was in the minority, but I said afterwards that it was a paper over the cracks win. I really didn't see anything that structured by the AB's it still seemed helter skelter, it's just that it worked.

                                    You weren't in the minority here, no one was that impressed. Apart from the media hacks

                                    Really? That wasn't the impression I got. Many seemed very pleased at supposedly seeing a plan that worked. Maybe I dreamed it.

                                    Jeez I think everyone enjoyed the win, but as you said, our defence was arse, with brave scramble. And the tactic of hitting 3 out was only going to work once, even if it was good to see. Maybe it was that I just ignored all the opinion otherwise, cos they were obvs talking rubbish!

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                                    • canefanC canefan

                                      @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      I go back to the covid week where Schmidt probably was forced to simplify everything, we played much better.

                                      I would put it more as the Irish did not play well, rather than us playing better. The warning signs were there for the ABs - the Irish appeared to make ground at will and they crossed our line multiple times. And about the only attacking tactic anyone could spot was Smith firing the ball wide of the Irish defensive channels.

                                      Yeah, not sure if I was in the minority, but I said afterwards that it was a paper over the cracks win. I really didn't see anything that structured by the AB's it still seemed helter skelter, it's just that it worked.

                                      You weren't in the minority here, no one was that impressed. Apart from the media hacks

                                      Really? That wasn't the impression I got. Many seemed very pleased at supposedly seeing a plan that worked. Maybe I dreamed it.

                                      IIRC the majority felt he didn't deserve the job based on

                                      1. The continuity argument fails when Shag and his crew had been found out since 2018 and Foster represented more of the same

                                      2. Foster hasn't won anything regardless of his ability as an assistant

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                                      @canefan said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      I go back to the covid week where Schmidt probably was forced to simplify everything, we played much better.

                                      I would put it more as the Irish did not play well, rather than us playing better. The warning signs were there for the ABs - the Irish appeared to make ground at will and they crossed our line multiple times. And about the only attacking tactic anyone could spot was Smith firing the ball wide of the Irish defensive channels.

                                      Yeah, not sure if I was in the minority, but I said afterwards that it was a paper over the cracks win. I really didn't see anything that structured by the AB's it still seemed helter skelter, it's just that it worked.

                                      You weren't in the minority here, no one was that impressed. Apart from the media hacks

                                      Really? That wasn't the impression I got. Many seemed very pleased at supposedly seeing a plan that worked. Maybe I dreamed it.

                                      IIRC the majority felt he didn't deserve the job based on

                                      1. The continuity argument fails when Shag and his crew had been found out since 2018 and Foster represented more of the same

                                      2. Foster hasn't won anything regardless of his ability as an assistant

                                      Shit I answered the wrong question...

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                                        @canefan said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        I go back to the covid week where Schmidt probably was forced to simplify everything, we played much better.

                                        I would put it more as the Irish did not play well, rather than us playing better. The warning signs were there for the ABs - the Irish appeared to make ground at will and they crossed our line multiple times. And about the only attacking tactic anyone could spot was Smith firing the ball wide of the Irish defensive channels.

                                        Yeah, not sure if I was in the minority, but I said afterwards that it was a paper over the cracks win. I really didn't see anything that structured by the AB's it still seemed helter skelter, it's just that it worked.

                                        You weren't in the minority here, no one was that impressed. Apart from the media hacks

                                        Really? That wasn't the impression I got. Many seemed very pleased at supposedly seeing a plan that worked. Maybe I dreamed it.

                                        IIRC the majority felt he didn't deserve the job based on

                                        1. The continuity argument fails when Shag and his crew had been found out since 2018 and Foster represented more of the same

                                        2. Foster hasn't won anything regardless of his ability as an assistant

                                        Shit I answered the wrong question...

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                                        @canefan said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @canefan said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        I go back to the covid week where Schmidt probably was forced to simplify everything, we played much better.

                                        I would put it more as the Irish did not play well, rather than us playing better. The warning signs were there for the ABs - the Irish appeared to make ground at will and they crossed our line multiple times. And about the only attacking tactic anyone could spot was Smith firing the ball wide of the Irish defensive channels.

                                        Yeah, not sure if I was in the minority, but I said afterwards that it was a paper over the cracks win. I really didn't see anything that structured by the AB's it still seemed helter skelter, it's just that it worked.

                                        You weren't in the minority here, no one was that impressed. Apart from the media hacks

                                        Really? That wasn't the impression I got. Many seemed very pleased at supposedly seeing a plan that worked. Maybe I dreamed it.

                                        IIRC the majority felt he didn't deserve the job based on

                                        1. The continuity argument fails when Shag and his crew had been found out since 2018 and Foster represented more of the same

                                        2. Foster hasn't won anything regardless of his ability as an assistant

                                        Shit I answered the wrong question...

                                        Count the number of rings in a tree to tell how old it is.

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                                          @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          I go back to the covid week where Schmidt probably was forced to simplify everything, we played much better.

                                          I would put it more as the Irish did not play well, rather than us playing better. The warning signs were there for the ABs - the Irish appeared to make ground at will and they crossed our line multiple times. And about the only attacking tactic anyone could spot was Smith firing the ball wide of the Irish defensive channels.

                                          Yeah, not sure if I was in the minority, but I said afterwards that it was a paper over the cracks win. I really didn't see anything that structured by the AB's it still seemed helter skelter, it's just that it worked.

                                          I said much the same thing at the time.

                                          I'm a simple man. Since day 1 I said I didn't rate Foster as a coach.

                                          Along with most of the Fern

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                                          @canefan said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          I go back to the covid week where Schmidt probably was forced to simplify everything, we played much better.

                                          I would put it more as the Irish did not play well, rather than us playing better. The warning signs were there for the ABs - the Irish appeared to make ground at will and they crossed our line multiple times. And about the only attacking tactic anyone could spot was Smith firing the ball wide of the Irish defensive channels.

                                          Yeah, not sure if I was in the minority, but I said afterwards that it was a paper over the cracks win. I really didn't see anything that structured by the AB's it still seemed helter skelter, it's just that it worked.

                                          I said much the same thing at the time.

                                          I'm a simple man. Since day 1 I said I didn't rate Foster as a coach.

                                          Along with most of the Fern

                                          There were posters who knew better!
                                          If I wasn't such a gentleman (and could actually remember) I might even name them....

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