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  • TimT Tim

    Newshub claimed that they've been informed by "sources" that sacking Foster would cost $3M to $4M.

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    @Tim said in Foster must go:

    Newshub claimed that they've been informed by "sources" that sacking Foster would cost $3M to $4M.

    Is that Foster or the whole Foster team?

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    • Chris B.C Chris B.

      @Tim said in Foster must go:

      Newshub claimed that they've been informed by "sources" that sacking Foster would cost $3M to $4M.

      Is that Foster or the whole Foster team?

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      @Chris-B Not specified. Assistants not mentioned though.

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        Robertson was still keen on the AB job before Foster's contract was renewed before last year's EOYT wasn't he? I assume he would have taken the job back then.

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        • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

          @gt12 said in Foster must go:

          @Bovidae said in Foster must go:

          @canefan said in Foster must go:

          @Crucial said in Foster must go:

          TV3 reckons Razor is reluctant. Schmidt is the man and the assistants are goneburger

          What is he waiting for? Sure the circumstances aren't ideal. But surely he would back himself?

          It appears not. They said that Robertson wants the full 4 years before a RWC.

          Understandable in principle, but if it's the role you want you take it when you can get it.

          In theory sure, but if the job you have dreamed of having doesn’t have the right terms etc, then sometimes it’s just not right.

          Not saying that is the case here because it’s all just speculation, but that happens in pro sports and the working world more broadly.

          I would say tenure would be a massive negotiation point for any prospective coach. And if we are talking Razor, he has pretty secure employment now, and he would know all too well that Mitch and Deans were turfed after a RWC when there wasn’t a full cycle of prep for them and every appointment or reappointment since has been about the cycle.

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          @ACT-Crusader yeah I can see why he may be reluctant to take over if the opportunity presents itself in the very near future...

          RWC inside a year, from what I understand about Razor is alot of his success is built on his planning and those around him, which also may be key to any decision he makes.

          Then you gotta ask, let's say he gets his way, would people be able to handle if he bought O'Gara in?

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            I read somewhere over the weekend that Foster is seen as too much of a Good Cop within the setup. As much as I've gnashed my teeth about his selections and tactics since forever, one thing that has stood out is that I've never heard anyone say a bad word about him as a person.

            Though this is a job for top performance as well, not solely for being a top bloke.

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            • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

              @ACT-Crusader yeah I can see why he may be reluctant to take over if the opportunity presents itself in the very near future...

              RWC inside a year, from what I understand about Razor is alot of his success is built on his planning and those around him, which also may be key to any decision he makes.

              Then you gotta ask, let's say he gets his way, would people be able to handle if he bought O'Gara in?

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              @taniwharugby said in Foster must go:

              @ACT-Crusader yeah I can see why he may be reluctant to take over if the opportunity presents itself in the very near future...

              RWC inside a year, from what I understand about Razor is alot of his success is built on his planning and those around him, which also may be key to any decision he makes.

              Then you gotta ask, let's say he gets his way, would people be able to handle if he bought O'Gara in?

              No problem. Anyone who has a problem can piss right off

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              • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                @ACT-Crusader yeah I can see why he may be reluctant to take over if the opportunity presents itself in the very near future...

                RWC inside a year, from what I understand about Razor is alot of his success is built on his planning and those around him, which also may be key to any decision he makes.

                Then you gotta ask, let's say he gets his way, would people be able to handle if he bought O'Gara in?

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                @taniwharugby said in Foster must go:

                Then you gotta ask, let's say he gets his way, would people be able to handle if he bought O'Gara in?

                Much easier than if he brought in Whinge Gatland...

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                • canefanC canefan

                  @taniwharugby said in Foster must go:

                  @ACT-Crusader yeah I can see why he may be reluctant to take over if the opportunity presents itself in the very near future...

                  RWC inside a year, from what I understand about Razor is alot of his success is built on his planning and those around him, which also may be key to any decision he makes.

                  Then you gotta ask, let's say he gets his way, would people be able to handle if he bought O'Gara in?

                  No problem. Anyone who has a problem can piss right off

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                  @canefan said in Foster must go:

                  @taniwharugby said in Foster must go:

                  @ACT-Crusader yeah I can see why he may be reluctant to take over if the opportunity presents itself in the very near future...

                  RWC inside a year, from what I understand about Razor is alot of his success is built on his planning and those around him, which also may be key to any decision he makes.

                  Then you gotta ask, let's say he gets his way, would people be able to handle if he bought O'Gara in?

                  No problem. Anyone who has a problem can piss right off

                  The All Blacks should be viewed by every aspiring coach around the world as a "must get this on my CV". We should be agnostic as long as they're the best.

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                  • TimT Tim

                    @Chris-B Not specified. Assistants not mentioned though.

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                    @Tim said in Foster must go:

                    @Chris-B Not specified. Assistants not mentioned though.

                    If they are paying him 3M the entire board should be fired immediately.

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                    • canefanC canefan

                      @taniwharugby said in Foster must go:

                      @ACT-Crusader yeah I can see why he may be reluctant to take over if the opportunity presents itself in the very near future...

                      RWC inside a year, from what I understand about Razor is alot of his success is built on his planning and those around him, which also may be key to any decision he makes.

                      Then you gotta ask, let's say he gets his way, would people be able to handle if he bought O'Gara in?

                      No problem. Anyone who has a problem can piss right off

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                      @canefan I'm just thinking back to Dean's to Aus, the Rennie, always some comments floating about not wanting a foreign coach.

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                      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                        @canefan I'm just thinking back to Dean's to Aus, the Rennie, always some comments floating about not wanting a foreign coach.

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                        @taniwharugby said in Foster must go:

                        @canefan I'm just thinking back to Dean's to Aus, the Rennie, always some comments floating about not wanting a foreign coach.

                        He'll be an assistant. Besides, where we are now I just want to see us back to something resembling ourselves

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                        • M Machpants

                          Just so we have facts not conjecture!

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                          @Machpants

                          God, I'd forgotten Vodanovich. Made Foster look like a genius.

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                            I can't see how Roberston could take over, to be honest. Two weeks before going to the republic? His support team is non-existent. Who picks the squad which is named in a few days? Crusader's contract? Young family ready for the pressure? (His wife would have something to say after all the criticism of Foster). Wishful thinking it seems. BUT I will still wake up each morning this week, look at my phone, and hope the message is there.

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                              @Machpants

                              God, I'd forgotten Vodanovich. Made Foster look like a genius.

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                              @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:

                              @Machpants

                              God, I'd forgotten Vodanovich. Made Foster look like a genius.

                              Who is Alex McDonald ?

                              I bet he got some nasty letters in the mail that took days to arrive.

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                                What's Hammett up to? Holland is off contract isn't he? Boyd is back in the country too.

                                Go Canes!

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                                  Oh god I’ve just realised that Gatland is still floating around.

                                  If I was as evil as some other posters I could have started a thread titled “Gatland takes over”

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                                  • BonesB Bones

                                    What's Hammett up to? Holland is off contract isn't he? Boyd is back in the country too.

                                    Go Canes!

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                                    @Bones said in Foster must go:

                                    What's Hammett up to? Holland is off contract isn't he? Boyd is back in the country too.

                                    Go Canes!

                                    I'd love to get rid of Holland. But not at the expense of the ABs

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                                    • O Old Samurai Jack

                                      I can't see how Roberston could take over, to be honest. Two weeks before going to the republic? His support team is non-existent. Who picks the squad which is named in a few days? Crusader's contract? Young family ready for the pressure? (His wife would have something to say after all the criticism of Foster). Wishful thinking it seems. BUT I will still wake up each morning this week, look at my phone, and hope the message is there.

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                                      @Old-Samurai-Jack said in Foster must go:

                                      His wife would have something to say after all the criticism of Foster

                                      She would also have friends whose husbands are constantly bickering at their wives to find out from Robertson's wife why the fuck he isn't coaching the ABs. Right?

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                                      • BonesB Bones

                                        @Old-Samurai-Jack said in Foster must go:

                                        His wife would have something to say after all the criticism of Foster

                                        She would also have friends whose husbands are constantly bickering at their wives to find out from Robertson's wife why the fuck he isn't coaching the ABs. Right?

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                                        @Bones said in Foster must go:

                                        @Old-Samurai-Jack said in Foster must go:

                                        His wife would have something to say after all the criticism of Foster

                                        She would also have friends whose husbands are constantly bickering at their wives to find out from Robertson's wife why the fuck he isn't coaching the ABs. Right?

                                        Big assumption there that those guy’s wives listen to what they are saying.

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                                        • MN5M MN5

                                          @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:

                                          @Machpants

                                          God, I'd forgotten Vodanovich. Made Foster look like a genius.

                                          Who is Alex McDonald ?

                                          I bet he got some nasty letters in the mail that took days to arrive.

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                                          @MN5 said in Foster must go:

                                          @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:

                                          @Machpants

                                          God, I'd forgotten Vodanovich. Made Foster look like a genius.

                                          Who is Alex McDonald ?

                                          I bet he got some nasty letters in the mail that took days to arrive.

                                          1949 would be the 4 Test tour to Sth Africa. Tough ask to win there with Saffa refs in those days, so he's excused.

                                          Vodanovich was awful and the start a decade of dumping coaches every year or so as we bumped along the bottom. Just pray we aren't in the start of a run like that.

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