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    I am of the view that destabilisation is exactly what this team needs. Something to shock it into life.

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    • nostrildamusN nostrildamus
      Jaspers said the All Blacks coach "should have fronted and delivered the mea culpa, acknowledged the hurt, talked about letting down the jersey and the fans, the lessons to be learned, we've been through dark days before etc and **his determination to right the ship**".
      
      "Fighting talk. Fronting up. That's what fans want to see and hear.
      

      ok so it isn't the Titanic then (which was bloody heavy). Glad to know fans want to hear Foster and co. come out fighting.

      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-v-ireland-the-reason-ian-fosters-press-conference-was-cancelled/5A5UKCF3YFIZS36BGGMMSJI6I4/

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      @nostrildamus said in Foster must go:

      **Jaspers said the All Blacks coach "should have fronted and delivered the mea culpa, acknowledged the hurt, talked about letting down the jersey and the fans, the lessons to be learned, we've been through dark days before etc and **his determination to right the ship****".
      
      "Fighting talk. Fronting up. That's what fans want to see and hear.
      

      ok so it isn't the Titanic then (which was bloody heavy). Glad to know fans want to hear Foster and co. come out fighting.

      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-v-ireland-the-reason-ian-fosters-press-conference-was-cancelled/5A5UKCF3YFIZS36BGGMMSJI6I4/

      I would also like to hear about their learnings too, for good measure

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      • DamoD Damo

        I am of the view that destabilisation is exactly what this team needs. Something to shock it into life.

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        @Damo said in Foster must go:

        I am of the view that destabilisation is exactly what this team needs. Something to shock it into life.

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        • juniorJ junior

          @nostrildamus said in Foster must go:

          **Jaspers said the All Blacks coach "should have fronted and delivered the mea culpa, acknowledged the hurt, talked about letting down the jersey and the fans, the lessons to be learned, we've been through dark days before etc and **his determination to right the ship****".
          
          "Fighting talk. Fronting up. That's what fans want to see and hear.
          

          ok so it isn't the Titanic then (which was bloody heavy). Glad to know fans want to hear Foster and co. come out fighting.

          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-v-ireland-the-reason-ian-fosters-press-conference-was-cancelled/5A5UKCF3YFIZS36BGGMMSJI6I4/

          I would also like to hear about their learnings too, for good measure

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          @junior said in Foster must go:

          I would also like to hear about their learnings too, for good measure

          I too would like to know the learnings going forward. They need to drill down how they are going to deliver for their key stakeholders. And what about those synergies they are developing?

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            Absolute gold from Sumo

            https://thespinoff.co.nz/sports/19-07-2022/next-all-blacks-test-cancelled-due-to-mean-press

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            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

              Absolute gold from Sumo

              https://thespinoff.co.nz/sports/19-07-2022/next-all-blacks-test-cancelled-due-to-mean-press

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              @KiwiMurph said in Foster must go:

              Absolute gold from Sumo

              https://thespinoff.co.nz/sports/19-07-2022/next-all-blacks-test-cancelled-due-to-mean-press

              Yeah the most pathetic shit 'metal health' my arse. Don't join up if you can't take the pressure

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              • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                Absolute gold from Sumo

                https://thespinoff.co.nz/sports/19-07-2022/next-all-blacks-test-cancelled-due-to-mean-press

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                @KiwiMurph said in Foster must go:

                Absolute gold from Sumo

                https://thespinoff.co.nz/sports/19-07-2022/next-all-blacks-test-cancelled-due-to-mean-press

                Well played @sumostevenson

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                • M Machpants

                  @KiwiMurph said in Foster must go:

                  Absolute gold from Sumo

                  https://thespinoff.co.nz/sports/19-07-2022/next-all-blacks-test-cancelled-due-to-mean-press

                  Yeah the most pathetic shit 'metal health' my arse. Don't join up if you can't take the pressure

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                  @Machpants said in Foster must go:

                  @KiwiMurph said in Foster must go:

                  Absolute gold from Sumo

                  https://thespinoff.co.nz/sports/19-07-2022/next-all-blacks-test-cancelled-due-to-mean-press

                  Yeah the most pathetic shit 'metal health' my arse. Don't join up if you can't take the pressure

                  metal health a typo or a reference to tin?

                  I loved this:

                  Not on Malcolm’s watch. Foster and Cane are going nowhere. On this point she seems adamant, and that conviction may yet keep the coach in his job. **He’s not important enough** to be told that his own press conference is shitcanned, but then again, what man really understands what’s good for him?
                  

                  A dig at Malcolm by being a dig at Foster ("He’s not important enough")and some sly girlsplaining "what man really understands what’s good for him?"

                  PS Stewart Mitchell played U21 in 1973, (so maybe around 70), really does have a LinkedIn profile and it really is a bit vague.

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                    PR 101 fail, don’t make yourself the story.

                    Very Kremlin like response.

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                    • KirwanK Kirwan

                      PR 101 fail, don’t make yourself the story.

                      Very Kremlin like response.

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                      @Kirwan https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/129304733/all-blacks-need-wayne-smith-scott-robertson-and-leon-macdonald-says-exnz-rugby-boss?dicbo=v2-adb5628aa216040e774f779b4948f11b

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                        What an utter trainwreck:

                        *"The decision to reappoint Foster's assistant coaches, two of whom reviewed poorly after successive defeats to finish last year's northern tour, and add additional resource in the form of skills consultant Andrew Strawbridge now also weighs heavily with a complete coaching change thought to come with a payout in excess of $2 million."

                        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/nz-rugbys-ian-foster-request-and-the-2-million-payout-inside-the-all-blacks-coaching-disaster/X3Z6XIGGEG7KASHJOOBGBNF3DI/

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                        • No QuarterN No Quarter

                          @mariner4life said in Foster must go:

                          @Frye said in Foster must go:

                          @mariner4life said in Foster must go:

                          there is the old saying that goes something like "what makes great coaches? Great players"

                          Maybe, if we step back and take the black glasses off, this isn't all Ian's fault. Maybe, just maybe, NZ players aren't very good any more.

                          Our front row players range from adequate to definitely substandard (with one possible, but as yet unproven) exception
                          Our 2nd rowers are putting in a shift, but do they actually contribute anything meaningful?
                          In the loose forwards, on the weekend perhaps our 6 & 8 had points wins over their opposite (7 clearly did not) but that is only if you ignore the fact we lost the ruck battle, and the tackle battle.
                          Our halfback can't kick with accuracy or depth.
                          there is no 10 in the country who can calmly run a game, or kick well from hand.
                          We don't appear to have a 12 anywhere, though playing 12 outside our erratic and unpredictable 10s must be a fucking nightmare
                          Our 13 is a converted winger with limitless potential but still several key questionmarks
                          Win seems okay
                          Our fullback is good under the high ball, but not much good at anything else, and loves a poor option

                          And a big issue is, who do you swap these guys out for? No one else is bashing the door down.

                          I'm just throwing it out there, maybe, just maybe, we lose to Ireland because they have better players than us now. And we, the NZ rugby fan, refuse to believe it because it has never been so.

                          You could be just as equally critical of any countries depth chart. If you choose to believe Keith Earls would be the first backline player picked for the All Blacks for example, then you are certainly welcome to that opinion.

                          nah yeah you're right all our players are heaps awesome and it's one dude's fault entirely

                          Earls isn't even first choice for Ireland so good name to throw in there
                          Hard to make a case that the 3 best midfielders on show over the past 3 weekends weren't Ringrose, Henshaw and Aki

                          They played well because they benefitted from an actual game plan. Look at the Irish move we were debating last week where Aki got the ball just outside the dummy runners shoulder and was immediately put into acres of space. Can you imagine Rieko receiving ball like that on a regular basis? He'd carve teams to shreds.

                          Look, I get what you are saying, we've had some fucking all time great teams in recent history with GOATs across the park. Our current lot don't compare to that, but they are nowhere near as bad as what we are seeing right now. We should have been easily good enough to put Ireland away given they were at the end of a very long season. We should actually be good enough to win most of our games, but we have become easy beats to the other Tier 1 teams as they know all they have to do is play with a bit structure and we'll end up making a host of errors trying to pull shit out of the bag.

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                          @No-Quarter said in Foster must go:

                          They played well because they benefitted from an actual game plan. Look at the Irish move we were debating last week where Aki got the ball just outside the dummy runners shoulder and was immediately put into acres of space. Can you imagine Rieko receiving ball like that on a regular basis? He'd carve teams to shreds.

                          No, but I can imagine Ma'a & Conrad having a word to each other along the lines of "that was a cool move, let's do x to stop it happening again. And I'll have a word with Beaden to throw the next pass outside my shoulder when they next drift in and I'll put you in space"

                          There's a lack on on-field thinking, do you think?

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                          • kiwi_expatK kiwi_expat

                            What an utter trainwreck:

                            *"The decision to reappoint Foster's assistant coaches, two of whom reviewed poorly after successive defeats to finish last year's northern tour, and add additional resource in the form of skills consultant Andrew Strawbridge now also weighs heavily with a complete coaching change thought to come with a payout in excess of $2 million."

                            https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/nz-rugbys-ian-foster-request-and-the-2-million-payout-inside-the-all-blacks-coaching-disaster/X3Z6XIGGEG7KASHJOOBGBNF3DI/

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                            @kiwi_expat seems that headline has changed when you click the link. What's the request?

                            https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/nz-rugbys-ian-foster-request-and-the-2-million-payout-inside-the-all-blacks-coaching-disaster/X3Z6XIGGEG7KASHJOOBGBNF3DI/

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                            • BonesB Bones

                              @kiwi_expat seems that headline has changed when you click the link. What's the request?

                              https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/nz-rugbys-ian-foster-request-and-the-2-million-payout-inside-the-all-blacks-coaching-disaster/X3Z6XIGGEG7KASHJOOBGBNF3DI/

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                              @Bones said in Foster must go:

                              @kiwi_expat seems that headline has changed when you click the link. What's the request?

                              https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/nz-rugbys-ian-foster-request-and-the-2-million-payout-inside-the-all-blacks-coaching-disaster/X3Z6XIGGEG7KASHJOOBGBNF3DI/

                              Super size it.

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                                @Bones said in Foster must go:

                                @kiwi_expat seems that headline has changed when you click the link. What's the request?

                                https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/nz-rugbys-ian-foster-request-and-the-2-million-payout-inside-the-all-blacks-coaching-disaster/X3Z6XIGGEG7KASHJOOBGBNF3DI/

                                Super size it.

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                                @Frye said in Foster must go:

                                @Bones said in Foster must go:

                                @kiwi_expat seems that headline has changed when you click the link. What's the request?

                                https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/nz-rugbys-ian-foster-request-and-the-2-million-payout-inside-the-all-blacks-coaching-disaster/X3Z6XIGGEG7KASHJOOBGBNF3DI/

                                Super size it.

                                DEEP FRYED

                                https://i.pinimg.com/originals/2a/8f/5b/2a8f5bb7b0b36c8a9d38754dc83d3f99.gif

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                                • BonesB Bones

                                  @Frye said in Foster must go:

                                  @Bones said in Foster must go:

                                  @kiwi_expat seems that headline has changed when you click the link. What's the request?

                                  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/nz-rugbys-ian-foster-request-and-the-2-million-payout-inside-the-all-blacks-coaching-disaster/X3Z6XIGGEG7KASHJOOBGBNF3DI/

                                  Super size it.

                                  DEEP FRYED

                                  https://i.pinimg.com/originals/2a/8f/5b/2a8f5bb7b0b36c8a9d38754dc83d3f99.gif

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                                  The Irish were lucky to win the series… they were lucky we were red carded in the second test…they were lucky Ardie didnt play for 50 minutes… they were lucky they weren’t red carded for exactly the same head butting offence in the third test….ahhhhh the luck of the Irish…. Foster is just unlucky…. Does this warrant him being sacked and the AB as woeful? No.

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                                    The Irish were lucky to win the series… they were lucky we were red carded in the second test…they were lucky Ardie didnt play for 50 minutes… they were lucky they weren’t red carded for exactly the same head butting offence in the third test….ahhhhh the luck of the Irish…. Foster is just unlucky…. Does this warrant him being sacked and the AB as woeful? No.

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                                    @POV I liked the original better

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                                    • BonesB Bones

                                      @POV I liked the original better

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                                      @Bones LOL

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                                        @Bones LOL

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                                        @POV welcome aboard anyway, although I get the feeling it's probably more a welcome back...

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                                          I find that media statement ridiculous. I don’t think anyone is out to shred foster the man to shreds. But claiming mental health is BS. That would be yet another reason to stand down and seek help (councillor, psychotherapist etc).

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