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  • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

    @BerniesCorner said in Foster must go:

    Over at Stuff

    "Mark Reason: The fishheads who are stinking out the All Blacks"
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300640271/mark-reason-the-fishheads-who-are-stinking-out-the-all-blacks

    Anyone else find this type of journalism totally unacceptable

    Worse than anything you get in the UK - and that's saying something.

    Billy TellB Offline
    Billy TellB Offline
    Billy Tell
    wrote on last edited by
    #781

    @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:

    @BerniesCorner said in Foster must go:

    Over at Stuff

    "Mark Reason: The fishheads who are stinking out the All Blacks"
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300640271/mark-reason-the-fishheads-who-are-stinking-out-the-all-blacks

    Anyone else find this type of journalism totally unacceptable

    Worse than anything you get in the UK - and that's saying something.

    Guy is English nevertheless. And we all know he’s a clueless troll.

    Victor MeldrewV 1 Reply Last reply
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    • Billy TellB Billy Tell

      @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:

      @Billy-Tell said in Foster must go:

      @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:

      @Billy-Tell said in Foster must go:

      I don’t think anyone is out to shred foster the man to shreds

      You obviously haven't been reading the Fern or social media....

      I think they erred on the side of caution and actually did the right thing, even though it looks a bit OTT. Though Foster seemed OK with the idea of a presser, though we don't know about Cane. NZR were putting their employees first when they were under pressure and that's no bad thing.

      (Cue umpteen posts arguing Foster isn't an employee, but is a contractor...)

      I disagree. The could have given journalists a code of contact with an emphasis that no personal attacks would be tolerated. But there are hard Qs to be asked...Ian, in the first test the ABs tried out wide passes from Aaron Smith. In the 2nd test, Ireland adjusted and this tactic was utterly nullified. Why didn't you adjust again for the 3rd test? Or, the ABs put up a lot of non-contestable midfield bombs in good attacking positions, which gave away hard-earned possession for no gain. Could you explain the reasoning behind this approach?

      Is this type of Q "being mean" or "character assassination"??

      Nah. You don't take the risk if you are concerned about your people. You err on the side of caution. It's a game of rugby FFS, not a life-changing event.

      We’re obviously not going to agree but if the guy can’t handle a press conference he’s not going to handle a RWC.

      Victor MeldrewV Offline
      Victor MeldrewV Offline
      Victor Meldrew
      wrote on last edited by Victor Meldrew
      #782

      @Billy-Tell said in Foster must go:

      @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:

      @Billy-Tell said in Foster must go:

      @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:

      @Billy-Tell said in Foster must go:

      I don’t think anyone is out to shred foster the man to shreds

      You obviously haven't been reading the Fern or social media....

      I think they erred on the side of caution and actually did the right thing, even though it looks a bit OTT. Though Foster seemed OK with the idea of a presser, though we don't know about Cane. NZR were putting their employees first when they were under pressure and that's no bad thing.

      (Cue umpteen posts arguing Foster isn't an employee, but is a contractor...)

      I disagree. The could have given journalists a code of contact with an emphasis that no personal attacks would be tolerated. But there are hard Qs to be asked...Ian, in the first test the ABs tried out wide passes from Aaron Smith. In the 2nd test, Ireland adjusted and this tactic was utterly nullified. Why didn't you adjust again for the 3rd test? Or, the ABs put up a lot of non-contestable midfield bombs in good attacking positions, which gave away hard-earned possession for no gain. Could you explain the reasoning behind this approach?

      Is this type of Q "being mean" or "character assassination"??

      Nah. You don't take the risk if you are concerned about your people. You err on the side of caution. It's a game of rugby FFS, not a life-changing event.

      We’re obviously not going to agree but if the guy can’t handle a press conference he’s not going to handle a RWC.

      It's got bugger all to do with Foster handling a presser or not.. It's about an NZR employee making a call on employee welfare which you disagree with. I'd suggest they were in a better position to make that call than you or I were.

      Billy TellB 1 Reply Last reply
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      • Billy TellB Billy Tell

        @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:

        @BerniesCorner said in Foster must go:

        Over at Stuff

        "Mark Reason: The fishheads who are stinking out the All Blacks"
        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300640271/mark-reason-the-fishheads-who-are-stinking-out-the-all-blacks

        Anyone else find this type of journalism totally unacceptable

        Worse than anything you get in the UK - and that's saying something.

        Guy is English nevertheless. And we all know he’s a clueless troll.

        Victor MeldrewV Offline
        Victor MeldrewV Offline
        Victor Meldrew
        wrote on last edited by
        #783

        @Billy-Tell said in Foster must go:

        @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:

        @BerniesCorner said in Foster must go:

        Over at Stuff

        "Mark Reason: The fishheads who are stinking out the All Blacks"
        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300640271/mark-reason-the-fishheads-who-are-stinking-out-the-all-blacks

        Anyone else find this type of journalism totally unacceptable

        Worse than anything you get in the UK - and that's saying something.

        Guy is English nevertheless. And we all know he’s a clueless troll.

        His dad was an even bigger dick.

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        • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

          @Billy-Tell said in Foster must go:

          @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:

          @Billy-Tell said in Foster must go:

          @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:

          @Billy-Tell said in Foster must go:

          I don’t think anyone is out to shred foster the man to shreds

          You obviously haven't been reading the Fern or social media....

          I think they erred on the side of caution and actually did the right thing, even though it looks a bit OTT. Though Foster seemed OK with the idea of a presser, though we don't know about Cane. NZR were putting their employees first when they were under pressure and that's no bad thing.

          (Cue umpteen posts arguing Foster isn't an employee, but is a contractor...)

          I disagree. The could have given journalists a code of contact with an emphasis that no personal attacks would be tolerated. But there are hard Qs to be asked...Ian, in the first test the ABs tried out wide passes from Aaron Smith. In the 2nd test, Ireland adjusted and this tactic was utterly nullified. Why didn't you adjust again for the 3rd test? Or, the ABs put up a lot of non-contestable midfield bombs in good attacking positions, which gave away hard-earned possession for no gain. Could you explain the reasoning behind this approach?

          Is this type of Q "being mean" or "character assassination"??

          Nah. You don't take the risk if you are concerned about your people. You err on the side of caution. It's a game of rugby FFS, not a life-changing event.

          We’re obviously not going to agree but if the guy can’t handle a press conference he’s not going to handle a RWC.

          It's got bugger all to do with Foster handling a presser or not.. It's about an NZR employee making a call on employee welfare which you disagree with. I'd suggest they were in a better position to make that call than you or I were.

          Billy TellB Offline
          Billy TellB Offline
          Billy Tell
          wrote on last edited by
          #784

          @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:

          @Billy-Tell said in Foster must go:

          @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:

          @Billy-Tell said in Foster must go:

          @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:

          @Billy-Tell said in Foster must go:

          I don’t think anyone is out to shred foster the man to shreds

          You obviously haven't been reading the Fern or social media....

          I think they erred on the side of caution and actually did the right thing, even though it looks a bit OTT. Though Foster seemed OK with the idea of a presser, though we don't know about Cane. NZR were putting their employees first when they were under pressure and that's no bad thing.

          (Cue umpteen posts arguing Foster isn't an employee, but is a contractor...)

          I disagree. The could have given journalists a code of contact with an emphasis that no personal attacks would be tolerated. But there are hard Qs to be asked...Ian, in the first test the ABs tried out wide passes from Aaron Smith. In the 2nd test, Ireland adjusted and this tactic was utterly nullified. Why didn't you adjust again for the 3rd test? Or, the ABs put up a lot of non-contestable midfield bombs in good attacking positions, which gave away hard-earned possession for no gain. Could you explain the reasoning behind this approach?

          Is this type of Q "being mean" or "character assassination"??

          Nah. You don't take the risk if you are concerned about your people. You err on the side of caution. It's a game of rugby FFS, not a life-changing event.

          We’re obviously not going to agree but if the guy can’t handle a press conference he’s not going to handle a RWC.

          It's got bugger all to do with Foster handling a presser or not.. It's about an NZR employee making a call on employee welfare which you disagree with. I'd suggest they were in a better position to make that call than you or I were.

          It’s a red warning for me when you need media minders. There’s a thin line between that and propaganda control, censors etc. You’re getting into FIFA, Russia, China territory.

          Dan54D Victor MeldrewV 2 Replies Last reply
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          • Billy TellB Billy Tell

            @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:

            @Billy-Tell said in Foster must go:

            @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:

            @Billy-Tell said in Foster must go:

            @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:

            @Billy-Tell said in Foster must go:

            I don’t think anyone is out to shred foster the man to shreds

            You obviously haven't been reading the Fern or social media....

            I think they erred on the side of caution and actually did the right thing, even though it looks a bit OTT. Though Foster seemed OK with the idea of a presser, though we don't know about Cane. NZR were putting their employees first when they were under pressure and that's no bad thing.

            (Cue umpteen posts arguing Foster isn't an employee, but is a contractor...)

            I disagree. The could have given journalists a code of contact with an emphasis that no personal attacks would be tolerated. But there are hard Qs to be asked...Ian, in the first test the ABs tried out wide passes from Aaron Smith. In the 2nd test, Ireland adjusted and this tactic was utterly nullified. Why didn't you adjust again for the 3rd test? Or, the ABs put up a lot of non-contestable midfield bombs in good attacking positions, which gave away hard-earned possession for no gain. Could you explain the reasoning behind this approach?

            Is this type of Q "being mean" or "character assassination"??

            Nah. You don't take the risk if you are concerned about your people. You err on the side of caution. It's a game of rugby FFS, not a life-changing event.

            We’re obviously not going to agree but if the guy can’t handle a press conference he’s not going to handle a RWC.

            It's got bugger all to do with Foster handling a presser or not.. It's about an NZR employee making a call on employee welfare which you disagree with. I'd suggest they were in a better position to make that call than you or I were.

            It’s a red warning for me when you need media minders. There’s a thin line between that and propaganda control, censors etc. You’re getting into FIFA, Russia, China territory.

            Dan54D Offline
            Dan54D Offline
            Dan54
            wrote on last edited by
            #785

            @Billy-Tell said in Foster must go:

            @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:

            @Billy-Tell said in Foster must go:

            @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:

            @Billy-Tell said in Foster must go:

            @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:

            @Billy-Tell said in Foster must go:

            I don’t think anyone is out to shred foster the man to shreds

            You obviously haven't been reading the Fern or social media....

            I think they erred on the side of caution and actually did the right thing, even though it looks a bit OTT. Though Foster seemed OK with the idea of a presser, though we don't know about Cane. NZR were putting their employees first when they were under pressure and that's no bad thing.

            (Cue umpteen posts arguing Foster isn't an employee, but is a contractor...)

            I disagree. The could have given journalists a code of contact with an emphasis that no personal attacks would be tolerated. But there are hard Qs to be asked...Ian, in the first test the ABs tried out wide passes from Aaron Smith. In the 2nd test, Ireland adjusted and this tactic was utterly nullified. Why didn't you adjust again for the 3rd test? Or, the ABs put up a lot of non-contestable midfield bombs in good attacking positions, which gave away hard-earned possession for no gain. Could you explain the reasoning behind this approach?

            Is this type of Q "being mean" or "character assassination"??

            Nah. You don't take the risk if you are concerned about your people. You err on the side of caution. It's a game of rugby FFS, not a life-changing event.

            We’re obviously not going to agree but if the guy can’t handle a press conference he’s not going to handle a RWC.

            It's got bugger all to do with Foster handling a presser or not.. It's about an NZR employee making a call on employee welfare which you disagree with. I'd suggest they were in a better position to make that call than you or I were.

            It’s a red warning for me when you need media minders. There’s a thin line between that and propaganda control, censors etc. You’re getting into FIFA, Russia, China territory.

            Hate to tell you yhis Billy, but every sports ream in world have them, there has been a media manager with ABs, Wallabies, Irish, Boks , Olympic teams etc etc forever and a day!

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            • Dan54D Dan54

              @Billy-Tell said in Foster must go:

              @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:

              @Billy-Tell said in Foster must go:

              @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:

              @Billy-Tell said in Foster must go:

              @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:

              @Billy-Tell said in Foster must go:

              I don’t think anyone is out to shred foster the man to shreds

              You obviously haven't been reading the Fern or social media....

              I think they erred on the side of caution and actually did the right thing, even though it looks a bit OTT. Though Foster seemed OK with the idea of a presser, though we don't know about Cane. NZR were putting their employees first when they were under pressure and that's no bad thing.

              (Cue umpteen posts arguing Foster isn't an employee, but is a contractor...)

              I disagree. The could have given journalists a code of contact with an emphasis that no personal attacks would be tolerated. But there are hard Qs to be asked...Ian, in the first test the ABs tried out wide passes from Aaron Smith. In the 2nd test, Ireland adjusted and this tactic was utterly nullified. Why didn't you adjust again for the 3rd test? Or, the ABs put up a lot of non-contestable midfield bombs in good attacking positions, which gave away hard-earned possession for no gain. Could you explain the reasoning behind this approach?

              Is this type of Q "being mean" or "character assassination"??

              Nah. You don't take the risk if you are concerned about your people. You err on the side of caution. It's a game of rugby FFS, not a life-changing event.

              We’re obviously not going to agree but if the guy can’t handle a press conference he’s not going to handle a RWC.

              It's got bugger all to do with Foster handling a presser or not.. It's about an NZR employee making a call on employee welfare which you disagree with. I'd suggest they were in a better position to make that call than you or I were.

              It’s a red warning for me when you need media minders. There’s a thin line between that and propaganda control, censors etc. You’re getting into FIFA, Russia, China territory.

              Hate to tell you yhis Billy, but every sports ream in world have them, there has been a media manager with ABs, Wallabies, Irish, Boks , Olympic teams etc etc forever and a day!

              Billy TellB Offline
              Billy TellB Offline
              Billy Tell
              wrote on last edited by
              #786

              @Dan54 said in Foster must go:

              @Billy-Tell said in Foster must go:

              @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:

              @Billy-Tell said in Foster must go:

              @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:

              @Billy-Tell said in Foster must go:

              @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:

              @Billy-Tell said in Foster must go:

              I don’t think anyone is out to shred foster the man to shreds

              You obviously haven't been reading the Fern or social media....

              I think they erred on the side of caution and actually did the right thing, even though it looks a bit OTT. Though Foster seemed OK with the idea of a presser, though we don't know about Cane. NZR were putting their employees first when they were under pressure and that's no bad thing.

              (Cue umpteen posts arguing Foster isn't an employee, but is a contractor...)

              I disagree. The could have given journalists a code of contact with an emphasis that no personal attacks would be tolerated. But there are hard Qs to be asked...Ian, in the first test the ABs tried out wide passes from Aaron Smith. In the 2nd test, Ireland adjusted and this tactic was utterly nullified. Why didn't you adjust again for the 3rd test? Or, the ABs put up a lot of non-contestable midfield bombs in good attacking positions, which gave away hard-earned possession for no gain. Could you explain the reasoning behind this approach?

              Is this type of Q "being mean" or "character assassination"??

              Nah. You don't take the risk if you are concerned about your people. You err on the side of caution. It's a game of rugby FFS, not a life-changing event.

              We’re obviously not going to agree but if the guy can’t handle a press conference he’s not going to handle a RWC.

              It's got bugger all to do with Foster handling a presser or not.. It's about an NZR employee making a call on employee welfare which you disagree with. I'd suggest they were in a better position to make that call than you or I were.

              It’s a red warning for me when you need media minders. There’s a thin line between that and propaganda control, censors etc. You’re getting into FIFA, Russia, China territory.

              Hate to tell you yhis Billy, but every sports ream in world have them, there has been a media manager with ABs, Wallabies, Irish, Boks , Olympic teams etc etc forever and a day!

              I’m fully aware. But they don’t usually cancel PC. I don’t see why a code of conduct etc wouldn’t suffice.

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              • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

                Over at Stuff

                "Mark Reason: The fishheads who are stinking out the All Blacks"
                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300640271/mark-reason-the-fishheads-who-are-stinking-out-the-all-blacks

                Anyone else find this type of journalism totally unacceptable

                Billy TellB Offline
                Billy TellB Offline
                Billy Tell
                wrote on last edited by
                #787

                @BerniesCorner said in Foster must go:

                Over at Stuff

                "Mark Reason: The fishheads who are stinking out the All Blacks"
                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300640271/mark-reason-the-fishheads-who-are-stinking-out-the-all-blacks

                Anyone else find this type of journalism totally unacceptable

                I’ve sent off my email complaint to stuff as I agree this kind of “journalism” has no place.

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                • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                  I find that media statement ridiculous. I don’t think anyone is out to shred foster the man to shreds. But claiming mental health is BS. That would be yet another reason to stand down and seek help (councillor, psychotherapist etc).

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                  Dan54
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #788

                  @Billy-Tell said in Foster must go:

                  I find that media statement ridiculous. I don’t think anyone is out to shred foster the man to shreds. But claiming mental health is BS. That would be yet another reason to stand down and seek help (councillor, psychotherapist etc).

                  You obviously weren't watching presser after the game, there was almost no questions on tactics etc (as you said would be good questions to ask) but just became about Foster etc, .

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                  • Dan54D Dan54

                    @Billy-Tell said in Foster must go:

                    I find that media statement ridiculous. I don’t think anyone is out to shred foster the man to shreds. But claiming mental health is BS. That would be yet another reason to stand down and seek help (councillor, psychotherapist etc).

                    You obviously weren't watching presser after the game, there was almost no questions on tactics etc (as you said would be good questions to ask) but just became about Foster etc, .

                    Billy TellB Offline
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                    Billy Tell
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #789

                    @Dan54 said in Foster must go:

                    @Billy-Tell said in Foster must go:

                    I find that media statement ridiculous. I don’t think anyone is out to shred foster the man to shreds. But claiming mental health is BS. That would be yet another reason to stand down and seek help (councillor, psychotherapist etc).

                    You obviously weren't watching presser after the game, there was almost no questions on tactics etc (as you said would be good questions to ask) but just became about Foster etc, .

                    TBh I never watch pC as nz journalists are hopeless at asking interesting Qs.

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                    • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

                      Over at Stuff

                      "Mark Reason: The fishheads who are stinking out the All Blacks"
                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300640271/mark-reason-the-fishheads-who-are-stinking-out-the-all-blacks

                      Anyone else find this type of journalism totally unacceptable

                      Dan54D Offline
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                      Dan54
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #790

                      @BerniesCorner said in Foster must go:

                      Over at Stuff

                      "Mark Reason: The fishheads who are stinking out the All Blacks"
                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300640271/mark-reason-the-fishheads-who-are-stinking-out-the-all-blacks

                      Anyone else find this type of journalism totally unacceptable

                      I usually avoid Reason's stuff, had a look at first part of this and was reminded why.
                      Some might call this journalism, personally I don't.

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                      • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                        @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:

                        @Billy-Tell said in Foster must go:

                        @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:

                        @Billy-Tell said in Foster must go:

                        @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:

                        @Billy-Tell said in Foster must go:

                        I don’t think anyone is out to shred foster the man to shreds

                        You obviously haven't been reading the Fern or social media....

                        I think they erred on the side of caution and actually did the right thing, even though it looks a bit OTT. Though Foster seemed OK with the idea of a presser, though we don't know about Cane. NZR were putting their employees first when they were under pressure and that's no bad thing.

                        (Cue umpteen posts arguing Foster isn't an employee, but is a contractor...)

                        I disagree. The could have given journalists a code of contact with an emphasis that no personal attacks would be tolerated. But there are hard Qs to be asked...Ian, in the first test the ABs tried out wide passes from Aaron Smith. In the 2nd test, Ireland adjusted and this tactic was utterly nullified. Why didn't you adjust again for the 3rd test? Or, the ABs put up a lot of non-contestable midfield bombs in good attacking positions, which gave away hard-earned possession for no gain. Could you explain the reasoning behind this approach?

                        Is this type of Q "being mean" or "character assassination"??

                        Nah. You don't take the risk if you are concerned about your people. You err on the side of caution. It's a game of rugby FFS, not a life-changing event.

                        We’re obviously not going to agree but if the guy can’t handle a press conference he’s not going to handle a RWC.

                        It's got bugger all to do with Foster handling a presser or not.. It's about an NZR employee making a call on employee welfare which you disagree with. I'd suggest they were in a better position to make that call than you or I were.

                        It’s a red warning for me when you need media minders. There’s a thin line between that and propaganda control, censors etc. You’re getting into FIFA, Russia, China territory.

                        Victor MeldrewV Offline
                        Victor MeldrewV Offline
                        Victor Meldrew
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #791

                        @Billy-Tell said in Foster must go:

                        @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:

                        @Billy-Tell said in Foster must go:

                        @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:

                        @Billy-Tell said in Foster must go:

                        @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:

                        @Billy-Tell said in Foster must go:

                        I don’t think anyone is out to shred foster the man to shreds

                        You obviously haven't been reading the Fern or social media....

                        I think they erred on the side of caution and actually did the right thing, even though it looks a bit OTT. Though Foster seemed OK with the idea of a presser, though we don't know about Cane. NZR were putting their employees first when they were under pressure and that's no bad thing.

                        (Cue umpteen posts arguing Foster isn't an employee, but is a contractor...)

                        I disagree. The could have given journalists a code of contact with an emphasis that no personal attacks would be tolerated. But there are hard Qs to be asked...Ian, in the first test the ABs tried out wide passes from Aaron Smith. In the 2nd test, Ireland adjusted and this tactic was utterly nullified. Why didn't you adjust again for the 3rd test? Or, the ABs put up a lot of non-contestable midfield bombs in good attacking positions, which gave away hard-earned possession for no gain. Could you explain the reasoning behind this approach?

                        Is this type of Q "being mean" or "character assassination"??

                        Nah. You don't take the risk if you are concerned about your people. You err on the side of caution. It's a game of rugby FFS, not a life-changing event.

                        We’re obviously not going to agree but if the guy can’t handle a press conference he’s not going to handle a RWC.

                        It's got bugger all to do with Foster handling a presser or not.. It's about an NZR employee making a call on employee welfare which you disagree with. I'd suggest they were in a better position to make that call than you or I were.

                        It’s a red warning for me when you need media minders. There’s a thin line between that and propaganda control, censors etc. You’re getting into FIFA, Russia, China territory.

                        Jeez fella, it's a bloody big leap you've made from criticizing a cancelled presser to arguing that protecting an employee is Putin-esque censorship.

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                        • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

                          Over at Stuff

                          "Mark Reason: The fishheads who are stinking out the All Blacks"
                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300640271/mark-reason-the-fishheads-who-are-stinking-out-the-all-blacks

                          Anyone else find this type of journalism totally unacceptable

                          MajorPomM Offline
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                          MajorPom
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #792

                          @BerniesCorner said in Foster must go:

                          Over at Stuff

                          "Mark Reason: The fishheads who are stinking out the All Blacks"
                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300640271/mark-reason-the-fishheads-who-are-stinking-out-the-all-blacks

                          Anyone else find this type of journalism totally unacceptable

                          Agree with every single thing he says.

                          Why do you think it’s unacceptable?

                          People on massive salaries get paid it because they have to accept colossal criticism when they fail to meet their kpi’s.

                          People who think this is unacceptable have been listening to too much Cindy.

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                          • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                            @Bones said in Foster must go:

                            @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:

                            @BerniesCorner said in Foster must go:

                            Over at Stuff

                            "Mark Reason: The fishheads who are stinking out the All Blacks"
                            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300640271/mark-reason-the-fishheads-who-are-stinking-out-the-all-blacks

                            Anyone else find this type of journalism totally unacceptable

                            Worse than anything you get in the UK - and that's saying something.

                            Why?

                            The dog-whistle implication that the coaching staff are racist for a start.

                            Comes across as a bloke who was denied the chance of a rant at the expected presser.

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                            @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:

                            @Bones said in Foster must go:

                            @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:

                            @BerniesCorner said in Foster must go:

                            Over at Stuff

                            "Mark Reason: The fishheads who are stinking out the All Blacks"
                            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300640271/mark-reason-the-fishheads-who-are-stinking-out-the-all-blacks

                            Anyone else find this type of journalism totally unacceptable

                            Worse than anything you get in the UK - and that's saying something.

                            Why?

                            The dog-whistle implication that the coaching staff are racist for a start.

                            Comes across as a bloke who was denied the chance of a rant at the expected presser.

                            That’s bullshit. At no point has Reason implied he’s racist. No point.

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                            • MajorPomM MajorPom

                              @BerniesCorner said in Foster must go:

                              Over at Stuff

                              "Mark Reason: The fishheads who are stinking out the All Blacks"
                              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300640271/mark-reason-the-fishheads-who-are-stinking-out-the-all-blacks

                              Anyone else find this type of journalism totally unacceptable

                              Agree with every single thing he says.

                              Why do you think it’s unacceptable?

                              People on massive salaries get paid it because they have to accept colossal criticism when they fail to meet their kpi’s.

                              People who think this is unacceptable have been listening to too much Cindy.

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                              @MajorRage said in Foster must go:

                              @BerniesCorner said in Foster must go:

                              Over at Stuff

                              "Mark Reason: The fishheads who are stinking out the All Blacks"
                              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300640271/mark-reason-the-fishheads-who-are-stinking-out-the-all-blacks

                              Anyone else find this type of journalism totally unacceptable

                              Agree with every single thing he says.

                              Why do you think it’s unacceptable?

                              People on massive salaries get paid it because they have to accept colossal criticism when they fail to meet their kpi’s.

                              People who think this is unacceptable have been listening to too much Cindy.

                              Replace fish heads with “f***”, “girls blouses”, “n*****” etc - would that be published. He can argue his points about needing a change of coach and captain without resorting to this.

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                              • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                                @MajorRage said in Foster must go:

                                @BerniesCorner said in Foster must go:

                                Over at Stuff

                                "Mark Reason: The fishheads who are stinking out the All Blacks"
                                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300640271/mark-reason-the-fishheads-who-are-stinking-out-the-all-blacks

                                Anyone else find this type of journalism totally unacceptable

                                Agree with every single thing he says.

                                Why do you think it’s unacceptable?

                                People on massive salaries get paid it because they have to accept colossal criticism when they fail to meet their kpi’s.

                                People who think this is unacceptable have been listening to too much Cindy.

                                Replace fish heads with “f***”, “girls blouses”, “n*****” etc - would that be published. He can argue his points about needing a change of coach and captain without resorting to this.

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                                @Billy-Tell unacceptable language mate, regardless of context. Have edited which breaks the mod rule of not editing arguments you are in.

                                Just being open.

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                                • MajorPomM MajorPom

                                  @Billy-Tell unacceptable language mate, regardless of context. Have edited which breaks the mod rule of not editing arguments you are in.

                                  Just being open.

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                                  @MajorRage said in Foster must go:

                                  @Billy-Tell unacceptable language mate, regardless of context. Have edited which breaks the mod rule of not editing arguments you are in.

                                  Just being open.

                                  Grand. Not a bother.

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                                  • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                                    @MajorRage said in Foster must go:

                                    @BerniesCorner said in Foster must go:

                                    Over at Stuff

                                    "Mark Reason: The fishheads who are stinking out the All Blacks"
                                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300640271/mark-reason-the-fishheads-who-are-stinking-out-the-all-blacks

                                    Anyone else find this type of journalism totally unacceptable

                                    Agree with every single thing he says.

                                    Why do you think it’s unacceptable?

                                    People on massive salaries get paid it because they have to accept colossal criticism when they fail to meet their kpi’s.

                                    People who think this is unacceptable have been listening to too much Cindy.

                                    Replace fish heads with “f***”, “girls blouses”, “n*****” etc - would that be published. He can argue his points about needing a change of coach and captain without resorting to this.

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                                    @Billy-Tell I don’t have a problem with use of fish heads but if you do, then no issues.

                                    Language aside … what do you disagree with in his column?

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                                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/129319289/ian-foster-wont-be-sacked-but-bigger-role-looms-for-joe-schmidt-in-all-blacks-shakeup

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                                      • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                                        @Dan54 said in Foster must go:

                                        @Billy-Tell said in Foster must go:

                                        I find that media statement ridiculous. I don’t think anyone is out to shred foster the man to shreds. But claiming mental health is BS. That would be yet another reason to stand down and seek help (councillor, psychotherapist etc).

                                        You obviously weren't watching presser after the game, there was almost no questions on tactics etc (as you said would be good questions to ask) but just became about Foster etc, .

                                        TBh I never watch pC as nz journalists are hopeless at asking interesting Qs.

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                                        @Billy-Tell said in Foster must go:

                                        @Dan54 said in Foster must go:

                                        @Billy-Tell said in Foster must go:

                                        I find that media statement ridiculous. I don’t think anyone is out to shred foster the man to shreds. But claiming mental health is BS. That would be yet another reason to stand down and seek help (councillor, psychotherapist etc).

                                        You obviously weren't watching presser after the game, there was almost no questions on tactics etc (as you said would be good questions to ask) but just became about Foster etc, .

                                        TBh I never watch pC as nz journalists are hopeless at asking interesting Qs.

                                        Yep mate. I think if you had of you would perhaps see what media woman was talking about. And you right often we getting so called journalists going to these things to just be as edgy as they can without asking decent questions, it's not something we just got in NZ, I watch a reasonable amount of them from around the place waiting for some really well asked questions and answers, but they tend to be about a lot, but the actual game just played!

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                                        • TimT Tim

                                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/129319289/ian-foster-wont-be-sacked-but-bigger-role-looms-for-joe-schmidt-in-all-blacks-shakeup

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                                          @Tim said in Foster must go:

                                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/129319289/ian-foster-wont-be-sacked-but-bigger-role-looms-for-joe-schmidt-in-all-blacks-shakeup

                                          I reckon Schmidt (or someone ) will be appointed DOR, similar to job Scott Johnson did for Wallabies. More or less as a sounding board etc for how things will go.

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