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    @Billy-Tell you realise "fish heads" is just slang that is (or at least was) commonly used to refer to the board/management etc in rugby?

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      Both Ferald and Stuff reporting nothing coming today, meeting didn't happen (and it is not to do with Foster's future), and enhanced Schmidt roll aka deck chairs on the titanic

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        @Billy-Tell you realise "fish heads" is just slang that is (or at least was) commonly used to refer to the board/management etc in rugby?

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        @Bones said in Foster must go:

        @Billy-Tell you realise "fish heads" is just slang that is (or at least was) commonly used to refer to the board/management etc in rugby?

        No I didn’t. But that is what stuff replied to me explaining in part why they let the article through.

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          i dont remember ever hearing "fish-heads" as a term for board/management in rugby but i also dont think ive ever heard it as any kind of offensive slur

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            Both Ferald and Stuff reporting nothing coming today, meeting didn't happen (and it is not to do with Foster's future), and enhanced Schmidt roll aka deck chairs on the titanic

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            @Machpants said in Foster must go:

            Both Ferald and Stuff reporting nothing coming today, meeting didn't happen (and it is not to do with Foster's future), and enhanced Schmidt roll aka deck chairs on the titanic

            Tbh if foster was ok previously as assistant and he is demoted back to this role with Schmidt as head coach, while it’s not my preference, it’s better than the current setup.

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              @Machpants said in Foster must go:

              Both Ferald and Stuff reporting nothing coming today, meeting didn't happen (and it is not to do with Foster's future), and enhanced Schmidt roll aka deck chairs on the titanic

              Tbh if foster was ok previously as assistant and he is demoted back to this role with Schmidt as head coach, while it’s not my preference, it’s better than the current setup.

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              @Billy-Tell said in Foster must go:

              @Machpants said in Foster must go:

              Both Ferald and Stuff reporting nothing coming today, meeting didn't happen (and it is not to do with Foster's future), and enhanced Schmidt roll aka deck chairs on the titanic

              Tbh if foster was ok previously as assistant and he is demoted back to this role with Schmidt as head coach, while it’s not my preference, it’s better than the current setup.

              Nah he stay's head coach, Schmidt in as No 2 or something, according to articles

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              • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                i dont remember ever hearing "fish-heads" as a term for board/management in rugby but i also dont think ive ever heard it as any kind of offensive slur

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                @Kiwiwomble said in Foster must go:

                i dont remember ever hearing "fish-heads" as a term for board/management in rugby but i also dont think ive ever heard it as any kind of offensive slur

                Must just be us cosmopolitans

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                  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby-all-blacks-coach-ian-foster-set-to-be-retained-for-south-african-tour/RUB567H5SYVRIYRREHZMY25U3Q/

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                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                    @Chris-B I remember hearing a few stories about Fawcett back when he was my PE teacher. He's had an eventful career since then.

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                    @Bovidae said in Foster must go:

                    @Chris-B I remember hearing a few stories about Fawcett back when he was my PE teacher. He's had an eventful career since then.

                    "Eventful" being quite the euphemism there.

                    I have had the misfortune of running across his path a few times in my life, luckily always briefly. Generally I think most people have a good side, but I've never met a person with a good word for him.

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                    • BonesB Bones

                      @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:

                      @Bones said in Foster must go:

                      @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:

                      @BerniesCorner said in Foster must go:

                      Over at Stuff

                      "Mark Reason: The fishheads who are stinking out the All Blacks"
                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300640271/mark-reason-the-fishheads-who-are-stinking-out-the-all-blacks

                      Anyone else find this type of journalism totally unacceptable

                      Worse than anything you get in the UK - and that's saying something.

                      Why?

                      The dog-whistle implication that the coaching staff are racist for a start.

                      Comes across as a bloke who was denied the chance of a rant at the expected presser.

                      Care to share? I skim read through it all and couldn't find anything that seemed like an attack. Most of it just seemed like obvious observations.

                      Edit: Oh you did. Funny how much different people can read it. I read that as Reason being racist, rather than him saying the coaches are Racist. Reason thinks the brown faces aren't going that good and that they must need special care and attention.

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                      @Bones said in Foster must go:

                      @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:

                      @Bones said in Foster must go:

                      @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:

                      @BerniesCorner said in Foster must go:

                      Over at Stuff

                      "Mark Reason: The fishheads who are stinking out the All Blacks"
                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300640271/mark-reason-the-fishheads-who-are-stinking-out-the-all-blacks

                      Anyone else find this type of journalism totally unacceptable

                      Worse than anything you get in the UK - and that's saying something.

                      Why?

                      The dog-whistle implication that the coaching staff are racist for a start.

                      Comes across as a bloke who was denied the chance of a rant at the expected presser.

                      Care to share? I skim read through it all and couldn't find anything that seemed like an attack. Most of it just seemed like obvious observations.

                      Edit: Oh you did. Funny how much different people can read it. I read that as Reason being racist, rather than him saying the coaches are Racist. Reason thinks the brown faces aren't going that good and that they must need special care and attention.

                      That too. Patronising BS.

                      But it was the statement that Foster didn't get the best out of specific racial groups which stood out. Classic dog-whistle accusation for me.

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                        lol, meeting never went ahead apparently, I wonder if "Karen" Malcolm probably cancelled that too because she was worried about the boards feelings

                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300641511/wait-for-all-blacks-coach-ian-fosters-fate-to-be-revealed-set-to-drag-on

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                          lol, meeting never went ahead apparently, I wonder if "Karen" Malcolm probably cancelled that too because she was worried about the boards feelings

                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300641511/wait-for-all-blacks-coach-ian-fosters-fate-to-be-revealed-set-to-drag-on

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                          In answer to an earlier post, Christian Cullen married a Mandy Fawcett and I have nothing bad to say about her dad (then again I don't know any of them).

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                            lol, meeting never went ahead apparently, I wonder if "Karen" Malcolm probably cancelled that too because she was worried about the boards feelings

                            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300641511/wait-for-all-blacks-coach-ian-fosters-fate-to-be-revealed-set-to-drag-on

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                            @bayimports

                            There are a few comments to her post about cancelling the meeting on LinkedIn as well.

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                            • BonesB Bones

                              @Billy-Tell you realise "fish heads" is just slang that is (or at least was) commonly used to refer to the board/management etc in rugby?

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                              @Bones said in Foster must go:

                              @Billy-Tell you realise "fish heads" is just slang that is (or at least was) commonly used to refer to the board/management etc in rugby?

                              I don't think it is specific to rugby, I heard the term years ago and not anything to do with rugby, not a slur as such, IIRC I heard it in relation to accountants (from an accountant about his boss)

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                              • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                @Bones said in Foster must go:

                                @Billy-Tell you realise "fish heads" is just slang that is (or at least was) commonly used to refer to the board/management etc in rugby?

                                I don't think it is specific to rugby, I heard the term years ago and not anything to do with rugby, not a slur as such, IIRC I heard it in relation to accountants (from an accountant about his boss)

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                                @taniwharugby said in Foster must go:

                                @Bones said in Foster must go:

                                @Billy-Tell you realise "fish heads" is just slang that is (or at least was) commonly used to refer to the board/management etc in rugby?

                                I don't think it is specific to rugby, I heard the term years ago and not anything to do with rugby, not a slur as such, IIRC I heard it in relation to accountants (from an accountant about his boss)

                                The bean-counter was having a go at the fish-head?

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                                • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                  @Bones said in Foster must go:

                                  @Billy-Tell you realise "fish heads" is just slang that is (or at least was) commonly used to refer to the board/management etc in rugby?

                                  I don't think it is specific to rugby, I heard the term years ago and not anything to do with rugby, not a slur as such, IIRC I heard it in relation to accountants (from an accountant about his boss)

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                                  @taniwharugby said in Foster must go:

                                  @Bones said in Foster must go:

                                  @Billy-Tell you realise "fish heads" is just slang that is (or at least was) commonly used to refer to the board/management etc in rugby?

                                  I don't think it is specific to rugby, I heard the term years ago and not anything to do with rugby, not a slur as such, IIRC I heard it in relation to accountants (from an accountant about his boss)

                                  That's a very subtle name drop. How is Ben these days?

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                                  • BonesB Bones

                                    @Kiwiwomble said in Foster must go:

                                    i dont remember ever hearing "fish-heads" as a term for board/management in rugby but i also dont think ive ever heard it as any kind of offensive slur

                                    Must just be us cosmopolitans

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                                    @Bones said in Foster must go:

                                    @Kiwiwomble said in Foster must go:

                                    i dont remember ever hearing "fish-heads" as a term for board/management in rugby but i also dont think ive ever heard it as any kind of offensive slur

                                    Must just be us cosmopolitans

                                    Or fans of Norm Hewitts book

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                                    • BonesB Bones

                                      @taniwharugby said in Foster must go:

                                      @Bones said in Foster must go:

                                      @Billy-Tell you realise "fish heads" is just slang that is (or at least was) commonly used to refer to the board/management etc in rugby?

                                      I don't think it is specific to rugby, I heard the term years ago and not anything to do with rugby, not a slur as such, IIRC I heard it in relation to accountants (from an accountant about his boss)

                                      That's a very subtle name drop. How is Ben these days?

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                                      @Bones just got married I think...

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                                        This sums things up nicely.

                                        https://dylancleaver.substack.com/p/comms-101-how-not-to-react-to-a-loss

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                                        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby-all-blacks-coach-ian-foster-set-to-be-retained-for-south-african-tour/RUB567H5SYVRIYRREHZMY25U3Q/

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                                          @KiwiMurph said in Foster must go:

                                          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby-all-blacks-coach-ian-foster-set-to-be-retained-for-south-african-tour/RUB567H5SYVRIYRREHZMY25U3Q/

                                          I'm seeing a lot of reporting based on no press releases or conferences. Stunning insight from some shit journalists; "coach unlikely to be sacked before South Africa trip".

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