Foster, Robertson etc
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I think there is a lot of wishful thinking posts going on here. Schmidt is in for selection, and oopposition analysis. Nice, and it would be good if the ABs actually had one clue to deal with opposition play (they seem schocked again and again that the Irish run a lot of decoys). But he will not be taking a bigger role, he's a homebody for personal reasons, he'll be an asset but not game changing. The idea that getting Ryan in is to prep for Razor is ridiculous. All this is is re-arranging deck chairs, cos the rot is much higher. It maybe that Foster is rated well by the players, but that doesn't mean he is any good. Either, despite what he says, the players don't understand what he wants, or what he wants is what we have seen, utter kack tactics. Both ways, Foster is not good enough, and NZR has it's head so far up it's arse they believe their own press, it is a common sign in a failing business. Fuck, that was how the Vietnam war was run by the Yanks, no one wanted to pass on bad news and those at the top couldn't dmit they fucked it up. So they kept getting deeper in the shit.
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Again, how does this man still have a job? Even selecting the team and deciding a game plan by TSF voting couldn't do worse...
@Donsteppa of the last 10 tests, we've won 5. Two of those against the USA and Italy. Since the EOYT in 2016 the ABs have nose dived. Foster can bleet all he wants about being the man for the job, resilient and strong but the stats don't lie. The team is trending downwards since 2016, loses to Argentina, Ireland, series loss at home, 66% win ratio and 50% from the last 10. How can his position be justified, hand on his heart? Hell, Mitch had an 80% win ratio and was jettisoned.
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'I'll tell you what I am. I'm incoherent. I'm pissed'
This makes no sense at all, it's barely English
“Let me tell you who I am, I’m strong, I’m resilient, I think I’ve proven that.
“I believe I’ve got a great feel and relationship with my players. I’m strategic and I’m also accountable and I take that on board.
“I promise you, I understand that and I’m really excited about the chance to show you what this team is made of”
@Machpants taken straight out of the Adern/Trudeau play book.
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Not sure if true but I’m hearing Tim, booboo and gt12 have been given the nod as the new assistants. Good luck guys.
@Billy-Tell said in Foster must go:
Not sure if true but I’m hearing Tim, booboo and gt12 have been given the nod as the new assistants. Good luck guys.
I can't comment on any possible role, but am expecting a shit ton of team issue apparel.
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The Foster press conference was a joke This Fucking guy is delusional. If we get through the quarter finals of the Wold cup I will be amazed. Just admit that you are not up to it and resign gracefully. Any other coach in any other sport would be sacked by now. This is not about U Foster, it is what is best for the team and you may be a good bloke and all but you are not it. Enough said..
@mencey it is about Foster though isnt it? The guy is in his dream job and will not give that up even if he thinks deep down he isnt up to it.
Fozzie is 57 (I was shocked to find out he is only 57 tbh) and it is hard to see him getting another high profile/high paid coaching role after his time with the All Blacks end. He has a career and retirement to think about and I doubt he has plans/or ability to retire just yet.
I thought his press conference was piss weak the way he spoke. saying he he was ian foster " im the all black head coach" the way he paused and stuttered during that introduction showed he didnt really believe in what he was saying
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The other paywalled article is about the boot
Forwards coach John Plumtree and scrum coach Greg Feek reviewed poorly at the end of the 2020 season and then again at the end of 2021.
Those who know a thing or two about the nature of these reviews, say the feedback from the players was scathing, indicative of there being a serious issue rather than mild concerns.
There was no alternative narrative and yet Foster concocted one, and successfully argued that he could up-skill the two stragglers, provide on-the-job development opportunities and that he would also bring in Andrew Strawbridge as a consultant to address some of the holes in the coaching portfolio.
His loyalty to his people was admirable, but so too was it misguided as the All Blacks can't be a finishing school for aspiring coaches.
@Machpants that says pretty much what the stuff Article says, and again breezes past Mcleod, like opposition players through our defence.
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@mencey it is about Foster though isnt it? The guy is in his dream job and will not give that up even if he thinks deep down he isnt up to it.
Fozzie is 57 (I was shocked to find out he is only 57 tbh) and it is hard to see him getting another high profile/high paid coaching role after his time with the All Blacks end. He has a career and retirement to think about and I doubt he has plans/or ability to retire just yet.
I thought his press conference was piss weak the way he spoke. saying he he was ian foster " im the all black head coach" the way he paused and stuttered during that introduction showed he didnt really believe in what he was saying
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@Machpants that says pretty much what the stuff Article says, and again breezes past Mcleod, like opposition players through our defence.
@taniwharugby said in Foster must go:
@Machpants that says pretty much what the stuff Article says, and again breezes past Mcleod, like opposition players through our defence.
I have just been reading a few stuff write ups from this week, they really are not close to being sports journalists are they? We had write ups where Canes was gone, Schmidt was taking over someone spot etc, and funnily enough they were all wrong, I really don't think they are any different to any of us on here, have an idea , put it in writing, only thing is some people seem to think they have inside knowledge. Would love to have some old time journalists that actually toured with the team and built up relationships, so actually knowing what is going on!
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@taniwharugby said in Foster must go:
@Machpants that says pretty much what the stuff Article says, and again breezes past Mcleod, like opposition players through our defence.
I have just been reading a few stuff write ups from this week, they really are not close to being sports journalists are they? We had write ups where Canes was gone, Schmidt was taking over someone spot etc, and funnily enough they were all wrong, I really don't think they are any different to any of us on here, have an idea , put it in writing, only thing is some people seem to think they have inside knowledge. Would love to have some old time journalists that actually toured with the team and built up relationships, so actually knowing what is going on!
@Dan54 sports journalism, like most journalism i expeft, has been on the decline for many years, most sit on one side of the fence or the other: writing stuff to keep on good side, then the polar opposite, or opinion peice click bait articles.
Very little actual fact based journalism.
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Phil Gifford , in the NZ Herald today, has a highly interesting insight into the process around the NZR’s appointment of a new coach after Hansen’s resignation in the 2019 World Cup aftermath.
Apparently, in a break from normal process, the NZR board did not interview the candidates, just a five-person selection panel with only one having rugby coaching experience (Graham Henry).
This amounts to a major failure of governance and tells you why this situation stinks so badly.
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Phil Gifford , in the NZ Herald today, has a highly interesting insight into the process around the NZR’s appointment of a new coach after Hansen’s resignation in the 2019 World Cup aftermath.
Apparently, in a break from normal process, the NZR board did not interview the candidates, just a five-person selection panel with only one having rugby coaching experience (Graham Henry).
This amounts to a major failure of governance and tells you why this situation stinks so badly.
@MrDenmore said in Foster must go:
Phil Gifford , in the NZ Herald today, has a highly interesting insight into the process around the NZR’s appointment of a new coach after Hansen’s resignation in the 2019 World Cup aftermath.
Apparently, in a break from normal process, the NZR board did not interview the candidates, just a five-person selection panel with only one having rugby coaching experience (Graham Henry).
This amounts to a major failure of governance and tells you why this situation stinks so badly.
No real surprise is turned to custard, most on here thought it was the wrong choice, and most fans. So yeah, pile o poo for a while
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@taniwharugby said in Foster must go:
@Machpants that says pretty much what the stuff Article says, and again breezes past Mcleod, like opposition players through our defence.
I have just been reading a few stuff write ups from this week, they really are not close to being sports journalists are they? We had write ups where Canes was gone, Schmidt was taking over someone spot etc, and funnily enough they were all wrong, I really don't think they are any different to any of us on here, have an idea , put it in writing, only thing is some people seem to think they have inside knowledge. Would love to have some old time journalists that actually toured with the team and built up relationships, so actually knowing what is going on!
@MrDenmore said in Foster must go:
Phil Gifford , in the NZ Herald today, has a highly interesting insight into the process around the NZR’s appointment of a new coach after Hansen’s resignation in the 2019 World Cup aftermath.
Apparently, in a break from normal process, the NZR board did not interview the candidates, just a five-person selection panel with only one having rugby coaching experience (Graham Henry).
This amounts to a major failure of governance and tells you why this situation stinks so badly.
That's hardly new news, we all new that anyway, was all pretty open at time, actually it is norm, hardly ever have a panel of coaches appointing coaches an any RU,Henry, Hansen just got interviewed by NZR, noone with coaching experience at all, everyone does same, just another case of click bait journalism. Only difference is many don't even have a panel, just offer the job to someone, Rennie never fronted a panel in Aus, same as Eddie Jones. Warren Gatland actually said he has never applied for a coaching job, Wales etc approached him.
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If results and performances are poor throughout the Rugby Championship, I think Foster will be jetisoned before the EOYT.
Only a matter of time IMHO before Razor gets appointed All Blacks Head Coach now. Okay maybe Dave Rennie might get the job if he gets the Wallabies to the RWC Final.
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@DaGrubster shocked he's only 57? I was shocked the other day when I learned he was once apart of the same super rugby squad as Leon Macdonald
@FakatavaAllBlack said in Foster must go:
@DaGrubster shocked he's only 57? I was shocked the other day when I learned he was once apart of the same super rugby squad as Leon Macdonald
Rangi did start playing NPC when he was 17, so was around a long time as a senior player.
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@taniwharugby said in Foster must go:
@Machpants that says pretty much what the stuff Article says, and again breezes past Mcleod, like opposition players through our defence.
I have just been reading a few stuff write ups from this week, they really are not close to being sports journalists are they? We had write ups where Canes was gone, Schmidt was taking over someone spot etc, and funnily enough they were all wrong, I really don't think they are any different to any of us on here, have an idea , put it in writing, only thing is some people seem to think they have inside knowledge. Would love to have some old time journalists that actually toured with the team and built up relationships, so actually knowing what is going on!
@MrDenmore said in Foster must go:
Phil Gifford , in the NZ Herald today, has a highly interesting insight into the process around the NZR’s appointment of a new coach after Hansen’s resignation in the 2019 World Cup aftermath.
Apparently, in a break from normal process, the NZR board did not interview the candidates, just a five-person selection panel with only one having rugby coaching experience (Graham Henry).
This amounts to a major failure of governance and tells you why this situation stinks so badly.
That's hardly new news, we all new that anyway, was all pretty open at time, actually it is norm, hardly ever have a panel of coaches appointing coaches an any RU,Henry, Hansen just got interviewed by NZR, noone with coaching experience at all, everyone does same, just another case of click bait journalism. Only difference is many don't even have a panel, just offer the job to someone, Rennie never fronted a panel in Aus, same as Eddie Jones. Warren Gatland actually said he has never applied for a coaching job, Wales etc approached him.
@Dan54 Well according to Gifford, who is actually a highly experienced journalist and not a paid troll, this is a breach of protocol and suggests something wrong with the governance of the NZR
It is certainly out of keeping with corporate best practice for a multi-million dollar organisation, and in this case New Zealand’s most powerful brand, not to have board oversight of such a key appointment
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@Dan54 Well according to Gifford, who is actually a highly experienced journalist and not a paid troll, this is a breach of protocol and suggests something wrong with the governance of the NZR
It is certainly out of keeping with corporate best practice for a multi-million dollar organisation, and in this case New Zealand’s most powerful brand, not to have board oversight of such a key appointment
@MrDenmore said in Foster must go:
@Dan54 Well according to Gifford, who is actually a highly experienced journalist and not a paid troll, this is a breach of protocol and suggests something wrong with the governance of the NZR
It is certainly out of keeping with corporate best practice for a multi-million dollar organisation, and in this case New Zealand’s most powerful brand, not to have board oversight of such a key appointment
His Canterbury/Crusaders articles in the 90s and 2000s were an absolute embarrassment though.
I like Gifford on the radio though. Him and Simon Barnett were good value when I had a work car that didn’t go past 90fm on the dial.
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@FakatavaAllBlack said in Foster must go:
@DaGrubster shocked he's only 57? I was shocked the other day when I learned he was once apart of the same super rugby squad as Leon Macdonald
Rangi did start playing NPC when he was 17, so was around a long time as a senior player.
@ACT-Crusader said in Foster must go:
@FakatavaAllBlack said in Foster must go:
@DaGrubster shocked he's only 57? I was shocked the other day when I learned he was once apart of the same super rugby squad as Leon Macdonald
Rangi did start playing NPC when he was 17, so was around a long time as a senior player.
Yeah him and Foster woulda been the first fives in the chiefs squad back in 1996.
