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  • Chris B.C Chris B.

    @nostrildamus Why would you think that?

    He's made it pretty clear that he's hanging around to have a crack at the top job after RWC2023.

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    @Chris-B said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

    @nostrildamus Why would you think that?

    He's made it pretty clear that he's hanging around to have a crack at the top job after RWC2023.

    I didn't see that. Thank you, I feel better now. All I recall is some poster on here adamant he signed an overseas contract to be announced in August.

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    • BonesB Bones

      @Hooroo said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

      @Bones said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

      @Hooroo cool. You bothered to come here to post that? Huh, maybe you're more invested than you make out...

      No, why? It’s an Internet forum and I have it on my phone. I check it every now and then.

      Yeah nah sure, just saying it's a bit weird to post that you don't care. There's a wine thread I don't care about, I don't feel the need to post there about how I don't care.

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      The Docter
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      @Bones there's a wine thread? show me the vino to that one

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        @Rapido said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

        @TheMojoman said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

        I’m surprised Macleod survived, our defence was clueless against the Irish.

        Jezus, has he?

        Hardly seems worth any of the bother.

        quite possable a defence coach isnt available yet. everyone has to work through contracts .anyone any good generally has a job

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        taniwharugby
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        @ploughboy you mean in the last 5 years since his appointment and our defence has continued to decline... 😉

        I'm not sure what they can be seeing that we can't when it comes to measuring his success as a defence coach.

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        • Chris B.C Chris B.

          Brief bio on McLeod, since I googled it.

          https://halosport.co.nz/project/scott-mcleod/

          It doesn't say he's immortal.

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          @Chris-B said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

          Brief bio on McLeod, since I googled it.

          https://halosport.co.nz/project/scott-mcleod/

          It doesn't say he's immortal.

          Might be better to replace him with the Kurgen

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          • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

            @Chris-B said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

            @nostrildamus Why would you think that?

            He's made it pretty clear that he's hanging around to have a crack at the top job after RWC2023.

            I didn't see that. Thank you, I feel better now. All I recall is some poster on here adamant he signed an overseas contract to be announced in August.

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            @nostrildamus Stargazer will know all the details, but I'm sure Razor is signed with NZR through to 2024, but with a get out clause, basically if he doesn't get the AB job in late-2023.

            If he wasn't committed to that he'd be long gone - Razor won't have to worry about feeding his kids in the foreseeable future - one of the hottest rugby coaching commodities on the planet.

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            • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

              @ploughboy you mean in the last 5 years since his appointment and our defence has continued to decline... 😉

              I'm not sure what they can be seeing that we can't when it comes to measuring his success as a defence coach.

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              @taniwharugby said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

              @ploughboy you mean in the last 5 years since his appointment and our defence has continued to decline... 😉

              I'm not sure what they can be seeing that we can't when it comes to measuring his success as a defence coach.

              where did i defend his performance just gave a reason why he MAY still have a job

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                Uptight rant here. I wish Foster and co would just shut the fuck up about saying they are disappointed about losing to Ireland in NZ. We are too but that is not it you fluffybunny! It is the obvious decline in AB rugby since arguably 2017 and the fact that it is getting worst not better!!! This decline has been obvious to everybody, the NZ fans, the opposition teams, etc, all except fucken NZR and Foster! Do they think we have forgotten about 2020, 2021? There has been no game plan, no defense, shite attack for friggen years and people are fucken sick of it! To be honest, I think the NZ fans have been incredibly patient and have given Foster and his team a lot of time to sort out obvious problems. All we have gotten back is lip service and excuses. Just fuck off!

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                • P ploughboy

                  @taniwharugby said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

                  @ploughboy you mean in the last 5 years since his appointment and our defence has continued to decline... 😉

                  I'm not sure what they can be seeing that we can't when it comes to measuring his success as a defence coach.

                  where did i defend his performance just gave a reason why he MAY still have a job

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                  taniwharugby
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                  @ploughboy sorry maybe I shoulda made that little smiley even bigger to show I was winding you up??

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                    Surely Ryan wouldn’t step in under Foster unless there is a bigger play, he is a loyal Robertson guy. Maybe not enough time to sign Robertson up for SA tour and deal with the exit of Foster and the legal implications. So Foster is on his way out, just timing.

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                      Listening to Foster on the Breakdown, it doesn't sound like Ryan gets a say in selections.

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                        Foster just said that McLeod has done a good job lol.

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                        • A akan004

                          Foster just said that McLeod has done a good job lol.

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                          @akan004 Yeah, unbelievable.

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                          • A akan004

                            Foster just said that McLeod has done a good job lol.

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                            Machpants
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                            @akan004 said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

                            Foster just said that McLeod has done a good job lol.

                            He's such a clueless idiot - I wonder how many most scores against by nation that McLeod holds?

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                              KiwiMurph
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                              Breakdown is pathetic.

                              It's just ABs PR.

                              I'm surprised it wasn't cancelled late.....

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                              • A akan004

                                Foster just said that McLeod has done a good job lol.

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                                taniwharugby
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                                @akan004 so what exactly is Foster seeing in our defence that us, opposition and the scoreboard can't?

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                                • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                  @akan004 so what exactly is Foster seeing in our defence that us, opposition and the scoreboard can't?

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                                  @taniwharugby said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

                                  @akan004 so what exactly is Foster seeing in our defence that us, opposition and the scoreboard can't?

                                  learnings.
                                  My learning is that this word fits all sorts of situations, although her indoors doesn't seem to like it.

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                                    @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

                                    @TheMojoman said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

                                    @Bovidae said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

                                    @BerniesCorner But if Robertson doesn't want the job now?

                                    He can afford to be patient. If Foster miraculously turns things around the job will be his in 2024. If not the job will be his sooner.

                                    And if we do pretty well at RWC2023, you really can't see NZR getting rid of a coach who brought the AB's back from a disastrous home series against Ireland in '22, to a decent result in France a year later, can you?

                                    So you think Foster will want to continue on after 2023, win or lose? I doubt it - he will have had 12 years with ABs by that stage

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                                    Victor Meldrew
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                                    @junior said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

                                    @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

                                    @TheMojoman said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

                                    @Bovidae said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

                                    @BerniesCorner But if Robertson doesn't want the job now?

                                    He can afford to be patient. If Foster miraculously turns things around the job will be his in 2024. If not the job will be his sooner.

                                    And if we do pretty well at RWC2023, you really can't see NZR getting rid of a coach who brought the AB's back from a disastrous home series against Ireland in '22, to a decent result in France a year later, can you?

                                    So you think Foster will want to continue on after 2023, win or lose? I doubt it - he will have had 12 years with ABs by that stage

                                    Well, that too. But I was being a bit ironic with my post.

                                    Imagine the meltdown on here if NZR extended him thru to 2027...

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                                    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                      @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

                                      a disastrous home series against Ireland in '22, to a decent result in France a year later

                                      what is a decent result?

                                      For me, a 'decent result' is losing finalist, only one better than a decent result to me.

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                                      Victor Meldrew
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                                      @taniwharugby said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

                                      @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

                                      a disastrous home series against Ireland in '22, to a decent result in France a year later

                                      what is a decent result?

                                      For me, a 'decent result' is losing finalist, only one better than a decent result to me.

                                      I was being a touch ironic, but a good result would be getting to the Finals I guess.

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                                        Jailbreak7
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                                        Well another bloody cop out.
                                        What I am struggling to come to grips with, is that if Feek "didn't review favourably" at the end of 2021 - what is he still doing there and why are the ABs prepare to carry such a dead weight??
                                        Also if Foster is so "accountable" why doesn't he just do the honourable thing and resign??
                                        Honestly that stand-up presser by him was a joke. It was full of stuttering and halting sentences and trademark give away body language "tells" that just screamed he wasn't remotely comfortable. That godawful line "I am the ABs head coach" blah blah rhetoric - who was he trying to convince?? Himself?? The fans?? The fish heads at NZ rugby?? The public at large?? Beacause I dont think for one damn minute any of those groups have any kind of belief in him. And if he really felt so "accountable" he would have been long gone.
                                        Its pathetic getting rid of only two assistants. What about McCleod?? What about Feek?? They all need to get gone. They say the captain always goes down with the sinking ship. By all acounts not long now me hearties.

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                                        • T The Docter

                                          @Victor-Meldrew I wish they had all gone. But shall we at least give the new set up a chance?

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                                          @The-Docter said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

                                          @Victor-Meldrew I wish they had all gone. But shall we at least give the new set up a chance?

                                          Until the EOYT and some significant improvement in the RC.

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