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    Old Samurai Jack
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    Uptight rant here. I wish Foster and co would just shut the fuck up about saying they are disappointed about losing to Ireland in NZ. We are too but that is not it you fluffybunny! It is the obvious decline in AB rugby since arguably 2017 and the fact that it is getting worst not better!!! This decline has been obvious to everybody, the NZ fans, the opposition teams, etc, all except fucken NZR and Foster! Do they think we have forgotten about 2020, 2021? There has been no game plan, no defense, shite attack for friggen years and people are fucken sick of it! To be honest, I think the NZ fans have been incredibly patient and have given Foster and his team a lot of time to sort out obvious problems. All we have gotten back is lip service and excuses. Just fuck off!

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      @taniwharugby said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

      @ploughboy you mean in the last 5 years since his appointment and our defence has continued to decline... 😉

      I'm not sure what they can be seeing that we can't when it comes to measuring his success as a defence coach.

      where did i defend his performance just gave a reason why he MAY still have a job

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      taniwharugby
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      @ploughboy sorry maybe I shoulda made that little smiley even bigger to show I was winding you up??

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        Surely Ryan wouldn’t step in under Foster unless there is a bigger play, he is a loyal Robertson guy. Maybe not enough time to sign Robertson up for SA tour and deal with the exit of Foster and the legal implications. So Foster is on his way out, just timing.

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          Stargazer
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          Listening to Foster on the Breakdown, it doesn't sound like Ryan gets a say in selections.

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            akan004
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            Foster just said that McLeod has done a good job lol.

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              Foster just said that McLeod has done a good job lol.

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              @akan004 Yeah, unbelievable.

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                Foster just said that McLeod has done a good job lol.

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                @akan004 said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

                Foster just said that McLeod has done a good job lol.

                He's such a clueless idiot - I wonder how many most scores against by nation that McLeod holds?

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                  Breakdown is pathetic.

                  It's just ABs PR.

                  I'm surprised it wasn't cancelled late.....

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                    Foster just said that McLeod has done a good job lol.

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                    taniwharugby
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                    @akan004 so what exactly is Foster seeing in our defence that us, opposition and the scoreboard can't?

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                    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                      @akan004 so what exactly is Foster seeing in our defence that us, opposition and the scoreboard can't?

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                      @taniwharugby said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

                      @akan004 so what exactly is Foster seeing in our defence that us, opposition and the scoreboard can't?

                      learnings.
                      My learning is that this word fits all sorts of situations, although her indoors doesn't seem to like it.

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                        @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

                        @TheMojoman said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

                        @Bovidae said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

                        @BerniesCorner But if Robertson doesn't want the job now?

                        He can afford to be patient. If Foster miraculously turns things around the job will be his in 2024. If not the job will be his sooner.

                        And if we do pretty well at RWC2023, you really can't see NZR getting rid of a coach who brought the AB's back from a disastrous home series against Ireland in '22, to a decent result in France a year later, can you?

                        So you think Foster will want to continue on after 2023, win or lose? I doubt it - he will have had 12 years with ABs by that stage

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                        @junior said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

                        @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

                        @TheMojoman said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

                        @Bovidae said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

                        @BerniesCorner But if Robertson doesn't want the job now?

                        He can afford to be patient. If Foster miraculously turns things around the job will be his in 2024. If not the job will be his sooner.

                        And if we do pretty well at RWC2023, you really can't see NZR getting rid of a coach who brought the AB's back from a disastrous home series against Ireland in '22, to a decent result in France a year later, can you?

                        So you think Foster will want to continue on after 2023, win or lose? I doubt it - he will have had 12 years with ABs by that stage

                        Well, that too. But I was being a bit ironic with my post.

                        Imagine the meltdown on here if NZR extended him thru to 2027...

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                        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                          @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

                          a disastrous home series against Ireland in '22, to a decent result in France a year later

                          what is a decent result?

                          For me, a 'decent result' is losing finalist, only one better than a decent result to me.

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                          Victor Meldrew
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                          @taniwharugby said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

                          @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

                          a disastrous home series against Ireland in '22, to a decent result in France a year later

                          what is a decent result?

                          For me, a 'decent result' is losing finalist, only one better than a decent result to me.

                          I was being a touch ironic, but a good result would be getting to the Finals I guess.

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                            Jailbreak7
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                            Well another bloody cop out.
                            What I am struggling to come to grips with, is that if Feek "didn't review favourably" at the end of 2021 - what is he still doing there and why are the ABs prepare to carry such a dead weight??
                            Also if Foster is so "accountable" why doesn't he just do the honourable thing and resign??
                            Honestly that stand-up presser by him was a joke. It was full of stuttering and halting sentences and trademark give away body language "tells" that just screamed he wasn't remotely comfortable. That godawful line "I am the ABs head coach" blah blah rhetoric - who was he trying to convince?? Himself?? The fans?? The fish heads at NZ rugby?? The public at large?? Beacause I dont think for one damn minute any of those groups have any kind of belief in him. And if he really felt so "accountable" he would have been long gone.
                            Its pathetic getting rid of only two assistants. What about McCleod?? What about Feek?? They all need to get gone. They say the captain always goes down with the sinking ship. By all acounts not long now me hearties.

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                              @Victor-Meldrew I wish they had all gone. But shall we at least give the new set up a chance?

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                              @The-Docter said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

                              @Victor-Meldrew I wish they had all gone. But shall we at least give the new set up a chance?

                              Until the EOYT and some significant improvement in the RC.

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                                The only interesting piece of info on the breakdown was that Foster is only in charge of the backs temporarily

                                So either another coach is being added after SA. Or Schmidt will be able to take over the backs at that stage

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                                  The only interesting piece of info on the breakdown was that Foster is only in charge of the backs temporarily

                                  So either another coach is being added after SA. Or Schmidt will be able to take over the backs at that stage

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                                  People worried that Ian Foster isn't seeing Dunsinane for the trees should avoid reading this article

                                  https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/129366936/i-believe-ive-got-the-group-all-blacks-coach-ian-foster-adamant-players-back-him

                                  “We’ve still got a strong belief in the direction we’re going and just because it didn’t come together as quickly as we wanted, it’s not the first time we’ve been slow starters in July. I hate saying that, but it is reality.
                                  

                                  Can someone enlighten me on this direction that Mr Foster is talking about?

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                                  • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                    @junior said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

                                    @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

                                    @TheMojoman said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

                                    @Bovidae said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

                                    @BerniesCorner But if Robertson doesn't want the job now?

                                    He can afford to be patient. If Foster miraculously turns things around the job will be his in 2024. If not the job will be his sooner.

                                    And if we do pretty well at RWC2023, you really can't see NZR getting rid of a coach who brought the AB's back from a disastrous home series against Ireland in '22, to a decent result in France a year later, can you?

                                    So you think Foster will want to continue on after 2023, win or lose? I doubt it - he will have had 12 years with ABs by that stage

                                    Well, that too. But I was being a bit ironic with my post.

                                    Imagine the meltdown on here if NZR extended him thru to 2027...

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                                    @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

                                    Imagine the meltdown on here if NZR extended him thru to 2027...

                                    Well, I'm getting mentally prepared for it.

                                    I half expect Foster to move on, but Robertson to not be appointed. That has been, after all, the NZR way for decades now.

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                                      People worried that Ian Foster isn't seeing Dunsinane for the trees should avoid reading this article

                                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/129366936/i-believe-ive-got-the-group-all-blacks-coach-ian-foster-adamant-players-back-him

                                      “We’ve still got a strong belief in the direction we’re going and just because it didn’t come together as quickly as we wanted, it’s not the first time we’ve been slow starters in July. I hate saying that, but it is reality.
                                      

                                      Can someone enlighten me on this direction that Mr Foster is talking about?

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                                      @nostrildamus said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

                                      People worried that Ian Foster isn't seeing Dunsinane for the trees should avoid reading this article

                                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/129366936/i-believe-ive-got-the-group-all-blacks-coach-ian-foster-adamant-players-back-him

                                      “We’ve still got a strong belief in the direction we’re going and just because it didn’t come together as quickly as we wanted, it’s not the first time we’ve been slow starters in July. I hate saying that, but it is reality.
                                      

                                      Can someone enlighten me on this direction that Mr Foster is talking about?

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                                        @nostrildamus said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

                                        We’ve still got a strong belief in the direction we’re going

                                        There's a lot of talk in that about belief in the direction, and we're going in the right (correct) direction. Yup the player's and coaches all have a rock solid belief that the only way is down, and that's the right way.

                                        Such arse PR speak

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                                        • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                                          People worried that Ian Foster isn't seeing Dunsinane for the trees should avoid reading this article

                                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/129366936/i-believe-ive-got-the-group-all-blacks-coach-ian-foster-adamant-players-back-him

                                          “We’ve still got a strong belief in the direction we’re going and just because it didn’t come together as quickly as we wanted, it’s not the first time we’ve been slow starters in July. I hate saying that, but it is reality.
                                          

                                          Can someone enlighten me on this direction that Mr Foster is talking about?

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                                          @nostrildamus said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

                                          People worried that Ian Foster isn't seeing Dunsinane for the trees should avoid reading this article

                                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/129366936/i-believe-ive-got-the-group-all-blacks-coach-ian-foster-adamant-players-back-him

                                          “We’ve still got a strong belief in the direction we’re going and just because it didn’t come together as quickly as we wanted, it’s not the first time we’ve been slow starters in July. I hate saying that, but it is reality.
                                          

                                          Can someone enlighten me on this direction that Mr Foster is talking about?

                                          Down the toilet.

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