Foster, Robertson etc
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@nostrildamus said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Crucial said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
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@Frank said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
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@Stargazer said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Crucial What else can he do, if he doesn't want to commit career suicide?
He could say nothing? Have any other players been sacked for saying nothing.
You know prehaps he does like his coaching of the backs?Reporter asks question about Foster - stony silence ensues.
Yeah, that'll be a non-story.Look I pretty neutral on who should coach, but some of you pretty keen on calling Richie a liar. And let's make it clear , he has in no way compared Razor and Foster, just said that he thinks Foster is the man for the job and I not sure he means as backs coach. Like it or not because Richie has made this statement that we may or may not agree with doesn't make him a liar ot it untrue, you know he could genuinely believe it, he says he finds working more direct with him taking over the backs as helping him. It was funny, Stu Barnes ripped into Cane (from England) and there seems no problem Cane is AB captain and some want change,, but an AB in camp actually involved with team makes a statement and he is branded a liar?
Actually to add, I was impressed with something Jason Ryan said that is exactly what I always try to say, are you in team Foster now or team Robertson? Reply neither I in team ABs. Best answer I have heard and sums up my exact feelings too.
Well put.
People pretty quick to say that RM is saying what his bosses want to hear but if you apply that same cynicism who's to say that Barnes wasn't asked to write a disruptive piece about NZ rugby to influence public opinion and support down here? That would be totally believable.That is a fair point but we don't pay Barnes.
I don't think RM looks to you for his paycheck either.
As fans we are stakeholders and contribute toward the income streams used to pay players and coaches but the whole 'I pay your wages' argument is so Karen.@Crucial said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@nostrildamus said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Crucial said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Dan54 said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Frank said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Dan54 said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Stargazer said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Crucial What else can he do, if he doesn't want to commit career suicide?
He could say nothing? Have any other players been sacked for saying nothing.
You know prehaps he does like his coaching of the backs?Reporter asks question about Foster - stony silence ensues.
Yeah, that'll be a non-story.Look I pretty neutral on who should coach, but some of you pretty keen on calling Richie a liar. And let's make it clear , he has in no way compared Razor and Foster, just said that he thinks Foster is the man for the job and I not sure he means as backs coach. Like it or not because Richie has made this statement that we may or may not agree with doesn't make him a liar ot it untrue, you know he could genuinely believe it, he says he finds working more direct with him taking over the backs as helping him. It was funny, Stu Barnes ripped into Cane (from England) and there seems no problem Cane is AB captain and some want change,, but an AB in camp actually involved with team makes a statement and he is branded a liar?
Actually to add, I was impressed with something Jason Ryan said that is exactly what I always try to say, are you in team Foster now or team Robertson? Reply neither I in team ABs. Best answer I have heard and sums up my exact feelings too.
Well put.
People pretty quick to say that RM is saying what his bosses want to hear but if you apply that same cynicism who's to say that Barnes wasn't asked to write a disruptive piece about NZ rugby to influence public opinion and support down here? That would be totally believable.That is a fair point but we don't pay Barnes.
I don't think RM looks to you for his paycheck either.
As fans we are stakeholders and contribute toward the income streams used to pay players and coaches but the whole 'I pay your wages' argument is so Karen.That's not my point. Richie's job depends on being selected by Foster. Barnes' job is not affected by responses in NZ.
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Since I normally don't listen to things like the mounga interview, I didn't realise exactly what he said, but it came up in another article, and I thought it was quite interesting. Mounga basically says foster is a good assistant coach
I think now he’ll have a more hands-on role with with the backs and with attack.
“I’ve had that taste early on in my All Blacks career (when Foster was an assistant) and I was able to gain so much knowledge and had ‘wow’ moments out in the field when he was coaching.
“It’s good to see that happen again the last couple of days.””
I think it has been conclusively proven that he's a fucking failure as head coach
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@broughie said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@gt12 I think Moody wrestled a little which may explain some of his propping abilities. Possible influence? Didn’t hear much on his teaching method. Cooking a steak but I like his response about why he wanted to coach the ABs. Bit of pride there.
Sam Tuitupou and Kees Meeuws were schoolboy wrestling champs when they were at Kelston. You could obviously see the influence wrestling had on their game.
Kelston were known for having a strong wrestling program and rugby players were often encouraged to take up wrestling.
@Dice I cant recall who it was (my grey memory says Craig Dowd or John Timu) did some Ballet training saying it was excellent for stability, strength and balance.
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@Dice I cant recall who it was (my grey memory says Craig Dowd or John Timu) did some Ballet training saying it was excellent for stability, strength and balance.
@taniwharugby said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Dice I cant recall who it was (my grey memory says Craig Dowd or John Timu) did some Ballet training saying it was excellent for stability, strength and balance.
As an aside, a number of NBA players back in the day did ballet training to help with footwork and balance.
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Leon will come in soon . Then razor as an assistant once he gets over his knee surgery and joe Schmidt will be head coach. Then Joe Schmidt will step away and Razor will be head coach.
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@Dice I cant recall who it was (my grey memory says Craig Dowd or John Timu) did some Ballet training saying it was excellent for stability, strength and balance.
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Leon will come in soon . Then razor as an assistant once he gets over his knee surgery and joe Schmidt will be head coach. Then Joe Schmidt will step away and Razor will be head coach.
@chchfanatic Is that your prediction or have you heard more?
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@taniwharugby couple of AB's, a few Harbour players and a host of Olympians used to be in my Pilates class. All us elite athletes together....
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Leon will come in soon . Then razor as an assistant once he gets over his knee surgery and joe Schmidt will be head coach. Then Joe Schmidt will step away and Razor will be head coach.
@chchfanatic said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
Leon will come in soon . Then razor as an assistant once he gets over his knee surgery and joe Schmidt will be head coach. Then Joe Schmidt will step away and Razor will be head coach.
Dreams are free, paying out fat foster is not, sadly
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@chchfanatic said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
Leon will come in soon . Then razor as an assistant once he gets over his knee surgery and joe Schmidt will be head coach. Then Joe Schmidt will step away and Razor will be head coach.
Dreams are free, paying out fat foster is not, sadly
@Machpants would you like to put a wager on it. You name the price.
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@Machpants would you like to put a wager on it. You name the price.
@chchfanatic said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Machpants would you like to put a wager on it. You name the price.
Give me a timescale, is this pre RWC 23?
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@broughie said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@gt12 I think Moody wrestled a little which may explain some of his propping abilities. Possible influence? Didn’t hear much on his teaching method. Cooking a steak but I like his response about why he wanted to coach the ABs. Bit of pride there.
Sam Tuitupou and Kees Meeuws were schoolboy wrestling champs when they were at Kelston. You could obviously see the influence wrestling had on their game.
Kelston were known for having a strong wrestling program and rugby players were often encouraged to take up wrestling.
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@Machpants would you like to put a wager on it. You name the price.
@chchfanatic said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Machpants would you like to put a wager on it. You name the price.
if @chchfanatic is that confident he is probably right.He has a source, Some things he has told me have been dead right.
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@gt12 Wrestling would be a fantastic training tool for rugby players. It’s more than just strength. It’s balance and knowing how to use your strength.
@broughie said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
Wrestling would be a fantastic training tool for rugby players. It’s more than just strength. It’s balance and knowing how to use your strength.
Not wrestling, but the teams sometimes do work with Brazilian Jiu Jitsu gyms for the same reason. The Blues and Crusaders were the first I remember hearing about doing that.. maybe 15 years ago
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@Dice I cant recall who it was (my grey memory says Craig Dowd or John Timu) did some Ballet training saying it was excellent for stability, strength and balance.
@taniwharugby said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Dice I cant recall who it was (my grey memory says Craig Dowd or John Timu) did some Ballet training saying it was excellent for stability, strength and balance.
I think it was Inga
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Leon will come in soon . Then razor as an assistant once he gets over his knee surgery and joe Schmidt will be head coach. Then Joe Schmidt will step away and Razor will be head coach.
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@Frank stuff article says he wants to win the RWC with NZ and another team....
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@chchfanatic said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Machpants would you like to put a wager on it. You name the price.
Give me a timescale, is this pre RWC 23?
@Machpants I dont know exact timeframe. How long does a new knee take to settle down. I’d say after the eoyt for changes and then Schmidt steps down after World Cup.
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@Machpants I dont know exact timeframe. How long does a new knee take to settle down. I’d say after the eoyt for changes and then Schmidt steps down after World Cup.
@chchfanatic said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Machpants I dont know exact timeframe. How long does a new knee take to settle down. I’d say after the eoyt for changes and then Schmidt steps down after World Cup.
I was coming in to post my speculation that he would be brought in as an assistant or selector on the quid pro quo that he advances to the top job following next year's WC.
