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  • dogmeatD dogmeat

    @taniwharugby couple of AB's, a few Harbour players and a host of Olympians used to be in my Pilates class. All us elite athletes together....

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    @dogmeat so you were the failure of the class, or you just prefer the anonymity of TSF to hide your fame?

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      Leon will come in soon . Then razor as an assistant once he gets over his knee surgery and joe Schmidt will be head coach. Then Joe Schmidt will step away and Razor will be head coach.

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      @chchfanatic said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

      Leon will come in soon . Then razor as an assistant once he gets over his knee surgery and joe Schmidt will be head coach. Then Joe Schmidt will step away and Razor will be head coach.

      Dreams are free, paying out fat foster is not, sadly

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        @chchfanatic said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

        Leon will come in soon . Then razor as an assistant once he gets over his knee surgery and joe Schmidt will be head coach. Then Joe Schmidt will step away and Razor will be head coach.

        Dreams are free, paying out fat foster is not, sadly

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        @Machpants would you like to put a wager on it. You name the price.

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          @Machpants would you like to put a wager on it. You name the price.

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          @chchfanatic said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

          @Machpants would you like to put a wager on it. You name the price.

          Give me a timescale, is this pre RWC 23?

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          • DiceD Dice

            @broughie said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

            @gt12 I think Moody wrestled a little which may explain some of his propping abilities. Possible influence? Didn’t hear much on his teaching method. Cooking a steak but I like his response about why he wanted to coach the ABs. Bit of pride there.

            Sam Tuitupou and Kees Meeuws were schoolboy wrestling champs when they were at Kelston. You could obviously see the influence wrestling had on their game.

            Kelston were known for having a strong wrestling program and rugby players were often encouraged to take up wrestling.

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            @Dice I wrestled in my youth and it is a fantastic sport. Six minutes in a wrestling match is pretty close to 2000 m in a rowing boat. You’re totally spent at the end.

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              @Machpants would you like to put a wager on it. You name the price.

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              @chchfanatic said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

              @Machpants would you like to put a wager on it. You name the price.

              if @chchfanatic is that confident he is probably right.He has a source, Some things he has told me have been dead right.

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              • broughieB broughie

                @gt12 Wrestling would be a fantastic training tool for rugby players. It’s more than just strength. It’s balance and knowing how to use your strength.

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                @broughie said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

                Wrestling would be a fantastic training tool for rugby players. It’s more than just strength. It’s balance and knowing how to use your strength.

                Not wrestling, but the teams sometimes do work with Brazilian Jiu Jitsu gyms for the same reason. The Blues and Crusaders were the first I remember hearing about doing that.. maybe 15 years ago

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                • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                  @Dice I cant recall who it was (my grey memory says Craig Dowd or John Timu) did some Ballet training saying it was excellent for stability, strength and balance.

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                  @taniwharugby said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

                  @Dice I cant recall who it was (my grey memory says Craig Dowd or John Timu) did some Ballet training saying it was excellent for stability, strength and balance.

                  I think it was Inga

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                    I hope Foster is fired pronto.

                    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-rugby-crusaders-coach-scott-robertson-says-hes-open-to-offers-from-rival-nations-after-all-blacks-coaching-snub/5CZY2KQZH4QQ67I4TVNG77II7Y/?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=nzh_fb&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR0I2OhrSI4ZlyaB7Xo01-DVj5b-qs_g33-mkIhYqZt7TzU61fCuGJ6qBu4#Echobox=1658876151

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                      Leon will come in soon . Then razor as an assistant once he gets over his knee surgery and joe Schmidt will be head coach. Then Joe Schmidt will step away and Razor will be head coach.

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                        I hope Foster is fired pronto.

                        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-rugby-crusaders-coach-scott-robertson-says-hes-open-to-offers-from-rival-nations-after-all-blacks-coaching-snub/5CZY2KQZH4QQ67I4TVNG77II7Y/?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=nzh_fb&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR0I2OhrSI4ZlyaB7Xo01-DVj5b-qs_g33-mkIhYqZt7TzU61fCuGJ6qBu4#Echobox=1658876151

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                        @Frank stuff article says he wants to win the RWC with NZ and another team....

                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300647218/crusaders-super-coach-scott-robertson-wants-to-win-world-cup-with-multiple-nations

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                          @chchfanatic said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

                          @Machpants would you like to put a wager on it. You name the price.

                          Give me a timescale, is this pre RWC 23?

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                          @Machpants I dont know exact timeframe. How long does a new knee take to settle down. I’d say after the eoyt for changes and then Schmidt steps down after World Cup.

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                            @Machpants I dont know exact timeframe. How long does a new knee take to settle down. I’d say after the eoyt for changes and then Schmidt steps down after World Cup.

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                            @chchfanatic said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

                            @Machpants I dont know exact timeframe. How long does a new knee take to settle down. I’d say after the eoyt for changes and then Schmidt steps down after World Cup.

                            I was coming in to post my speculation that he would be brought in as an assistant or selector on the quid pro quo that he advances to the top job following next year's WC.

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                            • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                              @dogmeat so you were the failure of the class, or you just prefer the anonymity of TSF to hide your fame?

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                              @taniwharugby I told the owner of the Studio that she should use me and Terenzo Bozzone in her point of sale

                              as a Before and After scenario. No prizes for guessing which I was

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                                Interesting that Razor praised a few assistant coaches from overseas in his interview. That is another aspect, a lot of teams (not ABs) bring in assistant coaches from overseas. Even SA have done so in the past. Maybe NZ rugby is too insular at the moment. Having a back's coach like Ronan O'Gara or Catt or a defense coach from the NH could make a difference. At least bring in fresh ideas.

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                                • F Frank

                                  I hope Foster is fired pronto.

                                  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-rugby-crusaders-coach-scott-robertson-says-hes-open-to-offers-from-rival-nations-after-all-blacks-coaching-snub/5CZY2KQZH4QQ67I4TVNG77II7Y/?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=nzh_fb&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR0I2OhrSI4ZlyaB7Xo01-DVj5b-qs_g33-mkIhYqZt7TzU61fCuGJ6qBu4#Echobox=1658876151

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                                  @Frank said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

                                  I hope Foster is fired pronto.

                                  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-rugby-crusaders-coach-scott-robertson-says-hes-open-to-offers-from-rival-nations-after-all-blacks-coaching-snub/5CZY2KQZH4QQ67I4TVNG77II7Y/?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=nzh_fb&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR0I2OhrSI4ZlyaB7Xo01-DVj5b-qs_g33-mkIhYqZt7TzU61fCuGJ6qBu4#Echobox=1658876151

                                  Stupid click bait headline, bombshell my arse. That's was what signed up for ages ago, long enough to compete for ABs spot post 23 RWC, with the option too stay another year. But really he said he was staying for that 2024+ post, and he'd go overseas if he didn't get it. Read what he actually said, herald are the worst click bait fluffybunnies ATM

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                                  • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

                                    Been an avid AB fan for years. Been so nervous at times with a close result, so proud of such a great team from a small country.

                                    The current player talent available is pretty good.

                                    This is the first time ever I don't care if we lose, in fact, it would be good if we did lose again.

                                    Getting a couple of good assistants is probably going to prolong the never ending saga of mediocrity.
                                    How can the national side not have the best management team that is available. Frustration.

                                    I honestly belief this team with a change in management could start firing consistently within a month

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                                    @BerniesCorner said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

                                    Been an avid AB fan for years. Been so nervous at times with a close result, so proud of such a great team from a small country.

                                    The current player talent available is pretty good.

                                    This is the first time ever I don't care if we lose, in fact, it would be good if we did lose again.

                                    Getting a couple of good assistants is probably going to prolong the never ending saga of mediocrity.
                                    How can the national side not have the best management team that is available. Frustration.

                                    I honestly belief this team with a change in management could start firing consistently within a month

                                    I found your views distasteful TBH. Personally, I'm not anti-Foster the man, but anti-his results. If the changes just made lead to well-constructed victories, I'll have no problem him continuing. If he wins, and wins well, he can stay. If we keep playing rubbish rugby, then he can go.

                                    But that is different for me then saying I don't care, I hope we lose.

                                    The only coach I couldn't stand in the end was John Mitchell, but Foster seems like a decent bloke.

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                                      @Frank said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

                                      I hope Foster is fired pronto.

                                      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-rugby-crusaders-coach-scott-robertson-says-hes-open-to-offers-from-rival-nations-after-all-blacks-coaching-snub/5CZY2KQZH4QQ67I4TVNG77II7Y/?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=nzh_fb&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR0I2OhrSI4ZlyaB7Xo01-DVj5b-qs_g33-mkIhYqZt7TzU61fCuGJ6qBu4#Echobox=1658876151

                                      Stupid click bait headline, bombshell my arse. That's was what signed up for ages ago, long enough to compete for ABs spot post 23 RWC, with the option too stay another year. But really he said he was staying for that 2024+ post, and he'd go overseas if he didn't get it. Read what he actually said, herald are the worst click bait fluffybunnies ATM

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                                      @Machpants said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

                                      Read what he actually said, herald are the worst click bait fluffybunnies ATM

                                      You think I actually read the article.
                                      Well there's your first mistake.

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                                        @Machpants said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

                                        Read what he actually said, herald are the worst click bait fluffybunnies ATM

                                        You think I actually read the article.
                                        Well there's your first mistake.

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                                        @Frank said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

                                        @Machpants said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

                                        Read what he actually said, herald are the worst click bait fluffybunnies ATM

                                        You think I actually read the article.
                                        Well there's your first mistake.

                                        Nah I'm saying the herald should actually read what he said, or at least the headline writer!

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                                        • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                                          @canefan said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

                                          @Machpants said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

                                          @kiwi_expat said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

                                          Here's a genuine question: What differences to the ABs' play have been introduced in the two and a half years since Foster became head coach? He spoke after being appointed about all the fresh ideas he would bring. I'd love to hear from anyone who can identify the fresh things he's introduced to the ABs. I'm excluding the negatives: the decline in defence and attack, the gradual loss of skills, the kicking that is less and less contestable, the decline in the lineout and so on. Can anyone identify positive changes in the last couple of seasons?

                                          As @ACT-Crusader said, and in fact you can take it back to late Hansen. The only change that we could add there is the two playmaker idea, which didn't work once DMac got injured as Beaudy dominated mounga

                                          IIRC Shag wanted out at the end of 2017 but the NZRFU persuaded him to come back. In hindsight he was out of ideas by then

                                          Really? That would reveal a real lack of confidence in NZ coaches by NZR.

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                                          @nostrildamus said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

                                          @canefan said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

                                          @Machpants said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

                                          @kiwi_expat said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

                                          Here's a genuine question: What differences to the ABs' play have been introduced in the two and a half years since Foster became head coach? He spoke after being appointed about all the fresh ideas he would bring. I'd love to hear from anyone who can identify the fresh things he's introduced to the ABs. I'm excluding the negatives: the decline in defence and attack, the gradual loss of skills, the kicking that is less and less contestable, the decline in the lineout and so on. Can anyone identify positive changes in the last couple of seasons?

                                          As @ACT-Crusader said, and in fact you can take it back to late Hansen. The only change that we could add there is the two playmaker idea, which didn't work once DMac got injured as Beaudy dominated mounga

                                          IIRC Shag wanted out at the end of 2017 but the NZRFU persuaded him to come back. In hindsight he was out of ideas by then

                                          Really? That would reveal a real lack of confidence in NZ coaches by NZR.

                                          At the time things seemed to be cruising nicely. In hindsight no so much

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