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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    @nostrildamus You can run 108kg Samu Kerevi at four or five guys in that backline who are going to be giving him 10+kg. Or a forward - close to the line that size advantage will be decisive - e.g. Porter vs Tupaea in the 2nd test

    As a unit for me it is "a bit on the small side".

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    @Chris-B said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

    @nostrildamus You can run 108kg Samu Kerevi at four or five guys in that backline who are going to be giving him 10+kg. Or a forward - close to the line that size advantage will be decisive - e.g. Porter vs Tupaea in the 2nd test

    As a unit for me it is "a bit on the small side".

    Kerevi still goes down against smaller players as proved in the Sevens.
    So where are these big backs you want?

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    @Crucial We could go Clarke, ALB, Rieko, Jordan, Jordie.

    Big and fast and I think four of those five should be locked in.

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    @Chris-B said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

    @Crucial We could go Clarke, ALB, Rieko, Jordan, Jordie.

    Big and fast and I think four of those five should be locked in.

    Yeah I was just thinking you kind of have to have Jordie at 12, (perhaps you are a) closet Canes supporter!!

    But Ben Smith wasn't huge and he did ok against bigger, taller blokes.
    Then there was Sammy T...

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    @nostrildamus It's not just individuals, but also the unit - and the potential to lose consecutive collisions.

    Crucial's selection isn't beyond the realms of possibility, but it's smaller than I think is ideal.

    In theory, I like Jordie at 12 because he gives us a big body there - an option we don't really have otherwise (we can also get a medium-sized Goodhue or Tupaea at 12). For the record, I'm sure Jordie is now 105+kgs.

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    Akira has been one of the shining lights of the ABs recently. He was instrumental in getting us back in the game against the French last year - he, ST and SB starting hitting it up close in and got us awesome go forward. For me he's the incumbent 6, and I'd be shocked if they were to pick the failed Frizzel ahead of him. I'd say they see Frizzel as someone who technically has similar physical attributes to Akira (though has never shown it at test level) so could cover in case of injury.

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    @No-Quarter said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

    I'd be shocked if they were to pick the failed Frizzel ahead of him

    unfortunately i would not

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    @mariner4life said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

    @No-Quarter said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

    I'd be shocked if they were to pick the failed Frizzel ahead of him

    unfortunately i would not

    me neither, i would almost put money on friz starting

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    @Chris-B said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

    @Crucial We could go Clarke, ALB, Rieko, Jordan, Jordie.

    Big and fast and I think four of those five should be locked in.

    Hey, my backline was a fantasy one based on performing forwards and halves, not what will or should happen. Just saying they would be lethal on any opportunities offered and fun to watch.

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    Wouldn't surprise me to see Scott Barrett at 6. They will be worried about countering the Bok's size and physicality.

    But, it's a difficult team to predict, because this will be Ryan's forward pack, rather than Plumtree's - and there's questions about whether they "give the boys another chance to put things right", or there's a significant change of tack.

    My guess is the former, but a clear loss would surely necessitate a significant change of course.

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    @Crucial So is my one - but, I quite like it, which won't surprise anyone who has followed my ideas about rugby over the years! 🙂

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  • DuluthD Offline
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    @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

    @mariner4life said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

    @No-Quarter said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

    I'd be shocked if they were to pick the failed Frizzel ahead of him

    unfortunately i would not

    me neither, i would almost put money on friz starting

    The woman beater/coward punch thrower didn't make the original squad. I don't think he's leap frogged a bunch of people. He's the replacement for the dropped PGS

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    replied to Duluth on last edited by Kiwiwomble
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    @Duluth see i see it the other way, they tried some other options...and lost...and so in fozzies simplistic mind he's going back to when we won games. this is based on PGS did nothing to warrant being dropped in my mind and frizell has done nothing (no games) to earn being recalled

    please dont confuse this with what i would, i would be quite happy to never see him in a black or blue and yellow jersey again

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    replied to Chris B. on last edited by nostrildamus
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    @Chris-B said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

    @nostrildamus It's not just individuals, but also the unit - and the potential to lose consecutive collisions.

    Crucial's selection isn't beyond the realms of possibility, but it's smaller than I think is ideal.

    In theory, I like Jordie at 12 because he gives us a big body there - an option we don't really have otherwise (we can also get a medium-sized Goodhue or Tupaea at 12). For the record, I'm sure Jordie is now 105+kgs.

    Ok, but you didn't get tempted by the bigger body stats of Leicester, somewhere? 1.88m 109kg? Bit raw to be sure but only 22.

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    @Chris-B I agree they might do that but Barrett has a more physical presence than Akira? He look bad in the first test. Doesn’t really know how to play 6.

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    @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

    PGS did nothing to warrant being dropped

    A few other players could've been dropped too, but PGS earned his demotion

    The lady hitter wouldn't have been my pick to replace him. However I think he got selected because he already has a few caps and they are running out of Tests to blood someone before the RWC (I disagree with this position too)

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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    @nostrildamus I've written plenty about Leicester already. One for the future.

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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    @broughie I thought he went pretty well. Of course, if they play him at 6 there's a question of who they partner with Whitelock.

    The Jaaps will probably have big Pieter-Steph at blindside and we have to be aware of that.

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  • KiwiMurphK Offline
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    I'd expect to see Barrett at lock and Frizell at 6. They recalled Frizell for a reason.

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    replied to KiwiMurph on last edited by Duluth
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    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

    They recalled Frizell for a reason.

    PGS getting dropped and Dalton having a shocker at 6 when he was considered one of the top 3 options at blindside.

    I doubt we'll see Dalton start at 6 again anytime soon

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