Foster, Robertson etc
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
Big parallels with NZ rugby after the '71 Lions tour. Then, too many people didn't smell the coffee, refused to accept our overall skills and player pool were poor and decided one new coach after another was the solution
so how did you guys discuss that back then to get that consensus, send one another letters?
:fishing_pole:seriously though, for me it isnt even about the score on the board, its about how we get there right now, how we play, showing we have learnt, can adapt and have a some direction is quite important now.
@taniwharugby said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
so how did you guys discuss that back then to get that consensus, send one another letters?
We used to wait for Terry McLean's new book to come out.
But seriously, in many ways I think there was better analysis in the media at that time than now. Much less, but better quality overall.
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@taniwharugby said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
so how did you guys discuss that back then to get that consensus, send one another letters?
We used to wait for Terry McLean's new book to come out.
But seriously, in many ways I think there was better analysis in the media at that time than now. Much less, but better quality overall.
@Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
in many ways I think there was better analysis in the media at that time than now
Even not being alive then, I'd say without a shadow of a doubt it would have been!
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@Victor-Meldrew The arrival of Jones, Zinny, Fitzpatrick and Kirwan was a good time.
@BerniesCorner said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Victor-Meldrew The arrival of Jones, Zinny, Fitzpatrick and Kirwan was a good time.
Don't want to bang on about my longevity, but the turnaround happened in '77 when, with an totally underpowered pack, we beat the Lions with some of the most intelligent rugby I've seen played.
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The 56 Springbok tour and 71 Lions tour were the stories I heard as a young fella listening to dad and his mates. They had so much respect for the 71 Lions. No disrespect to the 2022 Irish side, who created history, but it does feel it was given to them all a bit too easily.
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@Crucial said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
At this point of posting there are 1697 posts in this thread saying basically the same thing.
Take that as you wish.
We ain't finished with your boy Foster yet.
@Frank said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Crucial said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
At this point of posting there are 1697 posts in this thread saying basically the same thing.
Take that as you wish.
We ain't finished with your boy Foster yet.
My boy?
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@Frank said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Crucial said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
At this point of posting there are 1697 posts in this thread saying basically the same thing.
Take that as you wish.
We ain't finished with your boy Foster yet.
My boy?
@Crucial said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Frank said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Crucial said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
At this point of posting there are 1697 posts in this thread saying basically the same thing.
Take that as you wish.
We ain't finished with your boy Foster yet.
My boy?
Your son.
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The 56 Springbok tour and 71 Lions tour were the stories I heard as a young fella listening to dad and his mates. They had so much respect for the 71 Lions. No disrespect to the 2022 Irish side, who created history, but it does feel it was given to them all a bit too easily.
@Old-Samurai-Jack said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
They had so much respect for the 71 Lions.
Even more for Carwyn James who was arguably the greatest coach Rugby has seen. He utterly changed the way the game was played and you can pretty much trace today's attacking game back to him.
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/jun/10/carwyn-james-lions-1971-mastermind
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@Old-Samurai-Jack said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
They had so much respect for the 71 Lions.
Even more for Carwyn James who was arguably the greatest coach Rugby has seen. He utterly changed the way the game was played and you can pretty much trace today's attacking game back to him.
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/jun/10/carwyn-james-lions-1971-mastermind
@Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Old-Samurai-Jack said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
They had so much respect for the 71 Lions.
Even more for Carwyn James who was arguably the greatest coach Rugby has seen. He utterly changed the way the game was played and you can pretty much trace today's attacking game back to him.
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/jun/10/carwyn-james-lions-1971-mastermind
Brilliant coach re defined back play in the 1970’s
struggled with life away from the Rugby field.
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@Crucial said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Frank said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Crucial said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
At this point of posting there are 1697 posts in this thread saying basically the same thing.
Take that as you wish.
We ain't finished with your boy Foster yet.
My boy?
Your son.
@Frank said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Crucial said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Frank said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Crucial said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
At this point of posting there are 1697 posts in this thread saying basically the same thing.
Take that as you wish.
We ain't finished with your boy Foster yet.
My boy?
Your son.
You’ve lost me even more.
If you’re trying to paint me as a Foster white knight then I can only ask that you look back at the numerous critical posts I have made.
What I will also do though is call out people talking bollocks and endlessly repeating themselves. I’m also happy to discuss the reasoning behind some decisions to try and understand them instead of just making knee jerk comments about fatness and stupidity.
Apologies if I have misunderstood this place as having discussion boards. -
@Frank said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Crucial said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Frank said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Crucial said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
At this point of posting there are 1697 posts in this thread saying basically the same thing.
Take that as you wish.
We ain't finished with your boy Foster yet.
My boy?
Your son.
You’ve lost me even more.
If you’re trying to paint me as a Foster white knight then I can only ask that you look back at the numerous critical posts I have made.
What I will also do though is call out people talking bollocks and endlessly repeating themselves. I’m also happy to discuss the reasoning behind some decisions to try and understand them instead of just making knee jerk comments about fatness and stupidity.
Apologies if I have misunderstood this place as having discussion boards. -
@Crucial said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
Apologies if I have misunderstood this place as having discussion boards.
I'm think I'm one of the better placed ones to firmly reject this apology. This misunderstanding seems rather wilful.
@Bones said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Crucial said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
Apologies if I have misunderstood this place as having discussion boards.
I'm think I'm one of the better placed ones to firmly reject this apology. This misunderstanding seems rather wilful.
True.
When it suits it suits. -
@Frank said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Crucial said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Frank said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Crucial said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
At this point of posting there are 1697 posts in this thread saying basically the same thing.
Take that as you wish.
We ain't finished with your boy Foster yet.
My boy?
Your son.
You’ve lost me even more.
If you’re trying to paint me as a Foster white knight then I can only ask that you look back at the numerous critical posts I have made.
What I will also do though is call out people talking bollocks and endlessly repeating themselves. I’m also happy to discuss the reasoning behind some decisions to try and understand them instead of just making knee jerk comments about fatness and stupidity.
Apologies if I have misunderstood this place as having discussion boards.@Crucial said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Frank said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Crucial said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Frank said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Crucial said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
At this point of posting there are 1697 posts in this thread saying basically the same thing.
Take that as you wish.
We ain't finished with your boy Foster yet.
My boy?
Your son.
You’ve lost me even more.
If you’re trying to paint me as a Foster white knight then I can only ask that you look back at the numerous critical posts I have made.
What I will also do though is call out people talking bollocks and endlessly repeating themselves. I’m also happy to discuss the reasoning behind some decisions to try and understand them instead of just making knee jerk comments about fatness and stupidity.
Apologies if I have misunderstood this place as having discussion boards.Yeah, but Foster is fat. So Ner!
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@taniwharugby said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
so how did you guys discuss that back then to get that consensus, send one another letters?
We used to wait for Terry McLean's new book to come out.
But seriously, in many ways I think there was better analysis in the media at that time than now. Much less, but better quality overall.
@Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@taniwharugby said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
so how did you guys discuss that back then to get that consensus, send one another letters?
We used to wait for Terry McLean's new book to come out.
But seriously, in many ways I think there was better analysis in the media at that time than now. Much less, but better quality overall.
Yep and books and articles were written in a manner that didn't appear to be only to get reaction. Let's face it a pretty good percentage of posters on rugby orus wouldn't read books as there is often more then 2 paragraphs involved and that would stretch some's ability to concetrate, and most were written by people who actually attended games and spoke to playerscoaches/supporters etc.
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@Frank said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Crucial said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Frank said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Crucial said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
At this point of posting there are 1697 posts in this thread saying basically the same thing.
Take that as you wish.
We ain't finished with your boy Foster yet.
My boy?
Your son.
You’ve lost me even more.
If you’re trying to paint me as a Foster white knight then I can only ask that you look back at the numerous critical posts I have made.
What I will also do though is call out people talking bollocks and endlessly repeating themselves. I’m also happy to discuss the reasoning behind some decisions to try and understand them instead of just making knee jerk comments about fatness and stupidity.
Apologies if I have misunderstood this place as having discussion boards.@Crucial said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Frank said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Crucial said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Frank said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Crucial said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
At this point of posting there are 1697 posts in this thread saying basically the same thing.
Take that as you wish.
We ain't finished with your boy Foster yet.
My boy?
Your son.
You’ve lost me even more.
If you’re trying to paint me as a Foster white knight then I can only ask that you look back at the numerous critical posts I have made.
What I will also do though is call out people talking bollocks and endlessly repeating themselves. I’m also happy to discuss the reasoning behind some decisions to try and understand them instead of just making knee jerk comments about fatness and stupidity.
Apologies if I have misunderstood this place as having discussion boards.Thank God you are here raising the tone of this place!
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@Crucial said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Frank said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Crucial said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Frank said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Crucial said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
At this point of posting there are 1697 posts in this thread saying basically the same thing.
Take that as you wish.
We ain't finished with your boy Foster yet.
My boy?
Your son.
You’ve lost me even more.
If you’re trying to paint me as a Foster white knight then I can only ask that you look back at the numerous critical posts I have made.
What I will also do though is call out people talking bollocks and endlessly repeating themselves. I’m also happy to discuss the reasoning behind some decisions to try and understand them instead of just making knee jerk comments about fatness and stupidity.
Apologies if I have misunderstood this place as having discussion boards.Thank God you are here raising the tone of this place!
@Frank said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Crucial said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Frank said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Crucial said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Frank said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Crucial said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
At this point of posting there are 1697 posts in this thread saying basically the same thing.
Take that as you wish.
We ain't finished with your boy Foster yet.
My boy?
Your son.
You’ve lost me even more.
If you’re trying to paint me as a Foster white knight then I can only ask that you look back at the numerous critical posts I have made.
What I will also do though is call out people talking bollocks and endlessly repeating themselves. I’m also happy to discuss the reasoning behind some decisions to try and understand them instead of just making knee jerk comments about fatness and stupidity.
Apologies if I have misunderstood this place as having discussion boards.Thank God you are here raising the tone of this place!
Someone has to try. Don't want to turn into GAGR.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@taniwharugby said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
so how did you guys discuss that back then to get that consensus, send one another letters?
We used to wait for Terry McLean's new book to come out.
But seriously, in many ways I think there was better analysis in the media at that time than now. Much less, but better quality overall.
Yep and books and articles were written in a manner that didn't appear to be only to get reaction. Let's face it a pretty good percentage of posters on rugby orus wouldn't read books as there is often more then 2 paragraphs involved and that would stretch some's ability to concetrate, and most were written by people who actually attended games and spoke to playerscoaches/supporters etc.
@Dan54 said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@taniwharugby said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
so how did you guys discuss that back then to get that consensus, send one another letters?
We used to wait for Terry McLean's new book to come out.
But seriously, in many ways I think there was better analysis in the media at that time than now. Much less, but better quality overall.
Yep and books and articles were written in a manner that didn't appear to be only to get reaction. Let's face it a pretty good percentage of posters on rugby orus wouldn't read books as there is often more then 2 paragraphs involved and that would stretch some's ability to concetrate, and most were written by people who actually attended games and spoke to playerscoaches/supporters etc.
TLDR
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@taniwharugby said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
so how did you guys discuss that back then to get that consensus, send one another letters?
We used to wait for Terry McLean's new book to come out.
But seriously, in many ways I think there was better analysis in the media at that time than now. Much less, but better quality overall.
Yep and books and articles were written in a manner that didn't appear to be only to get reaction. Let's face it a pretty good percentage of posters on rugby orus wouldn't read books as there is often more then 2 paragraphs involved and that would stretch some's ability to concetrate, and most were written by people who actually attended games and spoke to playerscoaches/supporters etc.
@Dan54 said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
Let's face it a pretty good percentage of posters on rugby orus wouldn't read books as there is often more then 2 paragraphs involved and that would stretch some's ability to concetrate
i absolutely adore how many errors and typos are in this one sentence aimed at saying how stupid other people are. It's delicious
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@Dan54 said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
Let's face it a pretty good percentage of posters on rugby orus wouldn't read books as there is often more then 2 paragraphs involved and that would stretch some's ability to concetrate
i absolutely adore how many errors and typos are in this one sentence aimed at saying how stupid other people are. It's delicious
@mariner4life said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Dan54 said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
Let's face it a pretty good percentage of posters on rugby orus wouldn't read books as there is often more then 2 paragraphs involved and that would stretch some's ability to concetrate
i absolutely adore how many errors and typos are in this one sentence aimed at saying how stupid other people are. It's delicious
Somewhere, someone's pedantometer just exploded
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@Dan54 said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
Let's face it a pretty good percentage of posters on rugby orus wouldn't read books as there is often more then 2 paragraphs involved and that would stretch some's ability to concetrate
i absolutely adore how many errors and typos are in this one sentence aimed at saying how stupid other people are. It's delicious
@mariner4life Dementia?
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@Dan54 said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
Let's face it a pretty good percentage of posters on rugby orus wouldn't read books as there is often more then 2 paragraphs involved and that would stretch some's ability to concetrate
i absolutely adore how many errors and typos are in this one sentence aimed at saying how stupid other people are. It's delicious
@mariner4life said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Dan54 said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
Let's face it a pretty good percentage of posters on rugby orus wouldn't read books as there is often more then 2 paragraphs involved and that would stretch some's ability to concetrate
i absolutely adore how many errors and typos are in this one sentence aimed at saying how stupid other people are. It's delicious
You really need to stop being so sensitive, I was in no way saying anyone is stupid, merely pointing out the difference in so called journalism. The writers like Terry McLean etc wrote about tours while actually on the tours with ABs or whoever, where as now with internet anyone can post online and seemingly get their opinions etc of whatever is latest internet scource, they don't seem to actually travel with or talk to teams, or indeed even watch games apart from on tv in many cases.. Not a dig at anyone , merely pointing out differences of how info gets passed on.
Sorry I can't be buggered going through to make sure everything is up to your high standards,.
