Foster, Robertson etc
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@stodders said in Will Foster go?:
@Billy-Tell said in Will Foster go?:
I don’t see him going unless pushed. He is still in the delusion of “we are making progress, just needs a few minor tweaks”. No one is buying it any more.
But they did make progress. Only thing is, their starting point was so low after the Irish series.
So technically, he's right
No they didn't, they actually had some (2) good quarters versus Irish. Foster's extra shit attack cancels out the improvement Ryan has made in mauls, lineout. So, overall, No improvement
@Machpants said in Will Foster go?:
@stodders said in Will Foster go?:
@Billy-Tell said in Will Foster go?:
I don’t see him going unless pushed. He is still in the delusion of “we are making progress, just needs a few minor tweaks”. No one is buying it any more.
But they did make progress. Only thing is, their starting point was so low after the Irish series.
So technically, he's right
No they didn't, they actually had some (2) good quarters versus Irish. Foster's extra shit attack cancels out the improvement Ryan has made in mauls, lineout. So, overall, No improvement
I'd say the defence was better against the Boks. Then again, the Bok attack seems to have 3 plays - maul, run direct repeatedly until the defence runs out of numbers and high kicks. The Bok defence could be construed as an attacking option as it forces mistakes and broken field opportunities.
And before the Bok posters start raging, I'm not having a pop at the Boks. They play their way and are happy to do so. Rugby is a contrast in styles and the Boks have their specific style. However, the Bok approach leaves them susceptible to teams that take a risk and the bounce of the ball favours them on the day, e.g. England in November.
Which is why it will be fascinating to see how the complicated/varied Irish attack goes against this Bok defence in November.,And how the French go against the Boks in November too.
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@Frank said in Will Foster go?:
I am leaning toward the sauce being correct at this stage.
I think Foster is gone even if somehow they win at Ellis Park.
Joe Schmidt as new coach with Razor, MacDonald and Ryan as assistants.You're not a journo, so reveal your sauce and we will judge if it's worth leaning towards
@ACT-Crusader
The sauce is in another Foster thread (it is a poster on here) -
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The sauce is in another Foster thread (it is a poster on here)@Frank said in Will Foster go?:
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The sauce is in another Foster thread (it is a poster on here)Normally a good sauce too.
Close to the action that posters sauce. -
Hopefully not true although something similar was mentioned on stuff today.
https://twitter.com/martindevlinnz/status/1556544005730537472?t=xUPVY6sI7lbhBClXEDdXMA&s=19
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The sauce is in another Foster thread (it is a poster on here)@Frank said in Will Foster go?:
@ACT-Crusader
The sauce is in another Foster thread (it is a poster on here)Can you tell us which one - I don't have all night to search through them all.
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Hopefully not true although something similar was mentioned on stuff today.
https://twitter.com/martindevlinnz/status/1556544005730537472?t=xUPVY6sI7lbhBClXEDdXMA&s=19
@akan004 that kind of reads like more changes to the assistants than Fozzie getting the pip. But if there is a change in head coach and it isn't Razor, then I expect riots. Even if things have changed and Schmidt has decided he will/can travel if NZ Rugby keep cockblocking Robertson there will be many, many, unhappy fans.
Shit. That means it's gonna happen aye?
Fuck.
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@Frank said in Will Foster go?:
@ACT-Crusader
The sauce is in another Foster thread (it is a poster on here)Can you tell us which one - I don't have all night to search through them all.
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I should qualify that post (lol a ban offence around here!) that I really like and rate Schmidt. But I want Razor in charge with Schmidt working with him on selection and driving development and scouting. If any changes come with a clear transition plan to Razor post 2023 and he's cool with that then I could handle that jandal. Just!
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@akan004 that kind of reads like more changes to the assistants than Fozzie getting the pip. But if there is a change in head coach and it isn't Razor, then I expect riots. Even if things have changed and Schmidt has decided he will/can travel if NZ Rugby keep cockblocking Robertson there will be many, many, unhappy fans.
Shit. That means it's gonna happen aye?
Fuck.
@Paekakboyz Who knows. Hopefully it's a bit like that unfounded rumour about Cane losing his captaincy.
The other possibility is that he turned them down and I can see why Razor might not want the top job now, he's got a year to turn this rubble around and we probably don't have the cattle to win the RWC regardless of the coach, so it's a risky job to take atm.
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@Frank said in Will Foster go?:
@ACT-Crusader
The sauce is in another Foster thread (it is a poster on here)Normally a good sauce too.
Close to the action that posters sauce.@Chris said in Will Foster go?:
@Frank said in Will Foster go?:
@ACT-Crusader
The sauce is in another Foster thread (it is a poster on here)Normally a good sauce too.
Close to the action that posters sauce.ah ok, it's that one. I thought there was new sauce
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I should qualify that post (lol a ban offence around here!) that I really like and rate Schmidt. But I want Razor in charge with Schmidt working with him on selection and driving development and scouting. If any changes come with a clear transition plan to Razor post 2023 and he's cool with that then I could handle that jandal. Just!
@Paekakboyz said in Will Foster go?:
I should qualify that post (lol a ban offence around here!) that I really like and rate Schmidt. But I want Razor in charge with Schmidt working with him on selection and driving development and scouting. If any changes come with a clear transition plan to Razor post 2023 and he's cool with that then I could handle that jandal. Just!
Schmidt as NZ DoR makes sense. It is NZ based and it allows him to use his attention to detail to put in place a long term strategy to identify talent and develop players and coaches fit for the test arena. It is a long term job, but it fits in with his strengths and removes any need for him to travel.
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Has a Director of Rugby position been successful anywhere?
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Has a Director of Rugby position been successful anywhere?
@antipodean said in Will Foster go?:
Has a Director of Rugby position been successful anywhere?
Ireland. Nucifora.
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@antipodean said in Will Foster go?:
Has a Director of Rugby position been successful anywhere?
Ireland. Nucifora.
@stodders said in Will Foster go?:
@antipodean said in Will Foster go?:
Has a Director of Rugby position been successful anywhere?
Ireland. Nucifora.
Considering his history I'd unkindly suggest they've achieved in spite of him.
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@stodders said in Will Foster go?:
@antipodean said in Will Foster go?:
Has a Director of Rugby position been successful anywhere?
Ireland. Nucifora.
Considering his history I'd unkindly suggest they've achieved in spite of him.
@antipodean said in Will Foster go?:
@stodders said in Will Foster go?:
@antipodean said in Will Foster go?:
Has a Director of Rugby position been successful anywhere?
Ireland. Nucifora.
Considering his history I'd unkindly suggest they've achieved in spite of him.
Hehe. I know. In 2021 he nearly walked because of the Women's rugby debacle, but you can't deny he has been in place for a number of years and the Irish setup is now humming. He is the most powerful man in Irish rugby in reality because he is responsible for all High performance across all age groups and both sexes.
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Why was the Will Foster go thread merged with the Fozzie out thread?
They're 2 different questions.
@Damo said in Will Foster go?:
Why was the Will Foster go thread merged with the Fozzie out thread?
They're 2 different questions.
Yes, true. But...
I guess because the "discussions" in each are exactly the same, and it's getting kinda boring reading the same shit again and again in half-a-dozen different threads.
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@Damo said in Will Foster go?:
Why was the Will Foster go thread merged with the Fozzie out thread?
They're 2 different questions.
Yes, true. But...
I guess because the "discussions" in each are exactly the same, and it's getting kinda boring reading the same shit again and again in half-a-dozen different threads.
Edit: Perhaps the new merged thread should be named "Foster?"@Damo said in Will Foster go?:
Why was the Will Foster go thread merged with the Fozzie out thread?
They're 2 different questions.
Yes, true. But...
I guess because the "discussions" in each are exactly the same, and it's getting kinda boring reading the same shit again and again in half-a-dozen different threads.
Edit: Perhaps the new merged thread should be named "Foster?"Done
The two threads merged were “Will Foster go” & “Foster must go”
It was redundant. People were saying the same thing in both threads and even cross referencing posts
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@antipodean said in Will Foster go?:
@stodders said in Will Foster go?:
@antipodean said in Will Foster go?:
Has a Director of Rugby position been successful anywhere?
Ireland. Nucifora.
Considering his history I'd unkindly suggest they've achieved in spite of him.
Hehe. I know. In 2021 he nearly walked because of the Women's rugby debacle, but you can't deny he has been in place for a number of years and the Irish setup is now humming. He is the most powerful man in Irish rugby in reality because he is responsible for all High performance across all age groups and both sexes.
@antipodean said in Will Foster go?:
@stodders said in Will Foster go?:
@antipodean said in Will Foster go?:
Has a Director of Rugby position been successful anywhere?
Ireland. Nucifora.
Considering his history I'd unkindly suggest they've achieved in spite of him.
Hehe. I know. In 2021 he nearly walked because of the Women's rugby debacle, but you can't deny he has been in place for a number of years and the Irish setup is now humming. He is the most powerful man in Irish rugby in reality because he is responsible for all High performance across all age groups and both sexes.
Has been a total success in Ireland. Ireland should be the envy of the NZRU. They have really got their shît together. Although munster is somewhat faded these days.
