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  • PaekakboyzP Paekakboyz

    I should qualify that post (lol a ban offence around here!) that I really like and rate Schmidt. But I want Razor in charge with Schmidt working with him on selection and driving development and scouting. If any changes come with a clear transition plan to Razor post 2023 and he's cool with that then I could handle that jandal. Just!

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    @Paekakboyz said in Will Foster go?:

    I should qualify that post (lol a ban offence around here!) that I really like and rate Schmidt. But I want Razor in charge with Schmidt working with him on selection and driving development and scouting. If any changes come with a clear transition plan to Razor post 2023 and he's cool with that then I could handle that jandal. Just!

    Schmidt as NZ DoR makes sense. It is NZ based and it allows him to use his attention to detail to put in place a long term strategy to identify talent and develop players and coaches fit for the test arena. It is a long term job, but it fits in with his strengths and removes any need for him to travel.

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      Has a Director of Rugby position been successful anywhere?

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        Has a Director of Rugby position been successful anywhere?

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        @antipodean said in Will Foster go?:

        Has a Director of Rugby position been successful anywhere?

        Ireland. Nucifora.

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          @antipodean said in Will Foster go?:

          Has a Director of Rugby position been successful anywhere?

          Ireland. Nucifora.

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          @stodders said in Will Foster go?:

          @antipodean said in Will Foster go?:

          Has a Director of Rugby position been successful anywhere?

          Ireland. Nucifora.

          Considering his history I'd unkindly suggest they've achieved in spite of him.

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          • antipodeanA antipodean

            @stodders said in Will Foster go?:

            @antipodean said in Will Foster go?:

            Has a Director of Rugby position been successful anywhere?

            Ireland. Nucifora.

            Considering his history I'd unkindly suggest they've achieved in spite of him.

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            @antipodean said in Will Foster go?:

            @stodders said in Will Foster go?:

            @antipodean said in Will Foster go?:

            Has a Director of Rugby position been successful anywhere?

            Ireland. Nucifora.

            Considering his history I'd unkindly suggest they've achieved in spite of him.

            Hehe. I know. In 2021 he nearly walked because of the Women's rugby debacle, but you can't deny he has been in place for a number of years and the Irish setup is now humming. He is the most powerful man in Irish rugby in reality because he is responsible for all High performance across all age groups and both sexes.

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            • DamoD Damo

              Why was the Will Foster go thread merged with the Fozzie out thread?

              They're 2 different questions.

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              @Damo said in Will Foster go?:

              Why was the Will Foster go thread merged with the Fozzie out thread?

              They're 2 different questions.

              Yes, true. But...
              I guess because the "discussions" in each are exactly the same, and it's getting kinda boring reading the same shit again and again in half-a-dozen different threads.
              Edit: Perhaps the new merged thread should be named "Foster?"

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              • KruseK Kruse

                @Damo said in Will Foster go?:

                Why was the Will Foster go thread merged with the Fozzie out thread?

                They're 2 different questions.

                Yes, true. But...
                I guess because the "discussions" in each are exactly the same, and it's getting kinda boring reading the same shit again and again in half-a-dozen different threads.
                Edit: Perhaps the new merged thread should be named "Foster?"

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                @Kruse said in Foster:

                @Damo said in Will Foster go?:

                Why was the Will Foster go thread merged with the Fozzie out thread?

                They're 2 different questions.

                Yes, true. But...
                I guess because the "discussions" in each are exactly the same, and it's getting kinda boring reading the same shit again and again in half-a-dozen different threads.
                Edit: Perhaps the new merged thread should be named "Foster?"

                Done

                The two threads merged were ā€œWill Foster goā€ & ā€œFoster must goā€

                It was redundant. People were saying the same thing in both threads and even cross referencing posts

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                • S stodders

                  @antipodean said in Will Foster go?:

                  @stodders said in Will Foster go?:

                  @antipodean said in Will Foster go?:

                  Has a Director of Rugby position been successful anywhere?

                  Ireland. Nucifora.

                  Considering his history I'd unkindly suggest they've achieved in spite of him.

                  Hehe. I know. In 2021 he nearly walked because of the Women's rugby debacle, but you can't deny he has been in place for a number of years and the Irish setup is now humming. He is the most powerful man in Irish rugby in reality because he is responsible for all High performance across all age groups and both sexes.

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                  @stodders said in Foster:

                  @antipodean said in Will Foster go?:

                  @stodders said in Will Foster go?:

                  @antipodean said in Will Foster go?:

                  Has a Director of Rugby position been successful anywhere?

                  Ireland. Nucifora.

                  Considering his history I'd unkindly suggest they've achieved in spite of him.

                  Hehe. I know. In 2021 he nearly walked because of the Women's rugby debacle, but you can't deny he has been in place for a number of years and the Irish setup is now humming. He is the most powerful man in Irish rugby in reality because he is responsible for all High performance across all age groups and both sexes.

                  Has been a total success in Ireland. Ireland should be the envy of the NZRU. They have really got their shƮt together. Although munster is somewhat faded these days.

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                    Whoever takes over from Foster now has a hell of a job ahead of them as the players confidence looks shot.

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                    • DuluthD Duluth

                      @Kruse said in Foster:

                      @Damo said in Will Foster go?:

                      Why was the Will Foster go thread merged with the Fozzie out thread?

                      They're 2 different questions.

                      Yes, true. But...
                      I guess because the "discussions" in each are exactly the same, and it's getting kinda boring reading the same shit again and again in half-a-dozen different threads.
                      Edit: Perhaps the new merged thread should be named "Foster?"

                      Done

                      The two threads merged were ā€œWill Foster goā€ & ā€œFoster must goā€

                      It was redundant. People were saying the same thing in both threads and even cross referencing posts

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                      @Duluth said in Foster:

                      @Kruse said in Foster:

                      @Damo said in Will Foster go?:

                      Why was the Will Foster go thread merged with the Fozzie out thread?

                      They're 2 different questions.

                      Yes, true. But...
                      I guess because the "discussions" in each are exactly the same, and it's getting kinda boring reading the same shit again and again in half-a-dozen different threads.
                      Edit: Perhaps the new merged thread should be named "Foster?"

                      Done

                      The two threads merged were ā€œWill Foster goā€ & ā€œFoster must goā€

                      It was redundant. People were saying the same thing in both threads and even cross referencing posts

                      I was very confused, I clicked on the combined thread and it took me to a post 23 days ago on page 5. šŸ™‚

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                      • NepiaN Nepia

                        @Duluth said in Foster:

                        @Kruse said in Foster:

                        @Damo said in Will Foster go?:

                        Why was the Will Foster go thread merged with the Fozzie out thread?

                        They're 2 different questions.

                        Yes, true. But...
                        I guess because the "discussions" in each are exactly the same, and it's getting kinda boring reading the same shit again and again in half-a-dozen different threads.
                        Edit: Perhaps the new merged thread should be named "Foster?"

                        Done

                        The two threads merged were ā€œWill Foster goā€ & ā€œFoster must goā€

                        It was redundant. People were saying the same thing in both threads and even cross referencing posts

                        I was very confused, I clicked on the combined thread and it took me to a post 23 days ago on page 5. šŸ™‚

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                        @Nepia said in Foster:

                        @Duluth said in Foster:

                        @Kruse said in Foster:

                        @Damo said in Will Foster go?:

                        Why was the Will Foster go thread merged with the Fozzie out thread?

                        They're 2 different questions.

                        Yes, true. But...
                        I guess because the "discussions" in each are exactly the same, and it's getting kinda boring reading the same shit again and again in half-a-dozen different threads.
                        Edit: Perhaps the new merged thread should be named "Foster?"

                        Done

                        The two threads merged were ā€œWill Foster goā€ & ā€œFoster must goā€

                        It was redundant. People were saying the same thing in both threads and even cross referencing posts

                        I was very confused, I clicked on the combined thread and it took me to a post 23 days ago on page 5. šŸ™‚

                        Yeah same, I almost upvoted one of my own posts without realising thinking this guy knows what he's talking about

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                        • A akan004

                          @Paekakboyz Who knows. Hopefully it's a bit like that unfounded rumour about Cane losing his captaincy.

                          The other possibility is that he turned them down and I can see why Razor might not want the top job now, he's got a year to turn this rubble around and we probably don't have the cattle to win the RWC regardless of the coach, so it's a risky job to take atm.

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                          @akan004 said in Foster:

                          @Paekakboyz Who knows. Hopefully it's a bit like that unfounded rumour about Cane losing his captaincy.

                          The other possibility is that he turned them down and I can see why Razor might not want the top job now, he's got a year to turn this rubble around and we probably don't have the cattle to win the RWC regardless of the coach, so it's a risky job to take atm.

                          TBH, he would lose mana for me if that was the case. The cattle would be the same if he got the job back in 2020 and considering they're a rubble he basically has a free pass to stuff up over the next year and still be the coach after the RWC.

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                          • NepiaN Nepia

                            @akan004 said in Foster:

                            @Paekakboyz Who knows. Hopefully it's a bit like that unfounded rumour about Cane losing his captaincy.

                            The other possibility is that he turned them down and I can see why Razor might not want the top job now, he's got a year to turn this rubble around and we probably don't have the cattle to win the RWC regardless of the coach, so it's a risky job to take atm.

                            TBH, he would lose mana for me if that was the case. The cattle would be the same if he got the job back in 2020 and considering they're a rubble he basically has a free pass to stuff up over the next year and still be the coach after the RWC.

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                            @Nepia said in Foster:

                            TBH, he would lose mana for me if that was the case. The cattle would be the same if he got the job back in 2020 and considering they're a rubble he basically has a free pass to stuff up over the next year and still be the coach after the RWC.

                            I don't know if any of the coaches are decent stonemasons.

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                              Well that's that then. Lock the thread.

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                              • BonesB Bones

                                Well that's that then. Lock the thread.

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                                @Bones said in Foster:

                                Well that's that then. Lock the thread.

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                                Fair point. However, until the players start selecting themselves, it is a moot point šŸ˜‰

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                                • BonesB Bones

                                  Well that's that then. Lock the thread.

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                                  @Bones said in Foster:

                                  Well that's that then. Lock the thread.

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                                  spoken like a captain.

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                                  • NepiaN Nepia

                                    @akan004 said in Foster:

                                    @Paekakboyz Who knows. Hopefully it's a bit like that unfounded rumour about Cane losing his captaincy.

                                    The other possibility is that he turned them down and I can see why Razor might not want the top job now, he's got a year to turn this rubble around and we probably don't have the cattle to win the RWC regardless of the coach, so it's a risky job to take atm.

                                    TBH, he would lose mana for me if that was the case. The cattle would be the same if he got the job back in 2020 and considering they're a rubble he basically has a free pass to stuff up over the next year and still be the coach after the RWC.

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                                    @Nepia said in Foster:

                                    @akan004 said in Foster:

                                    @Paekakboyz Who knows. Hopefully it's a bit like that unfounded rumour about Cane losing his captaincy.

                                    The other possibility is that he turned them down and I can see why Razor might not want the top job now, he's got a year to turn this rubble around and we probably don't have the cattle to win the RWC regardless of the coach, so it's a risky job to take atm.

                                    TBH, he would lose mana for me if that was the case. The cattle would be the same if he got the job back in 2020 and considering they're a rubble he basically has a free pass to stuff up over the next year and still be the coach after the RWC.

                                    When does an AB coach get a free pass….

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                                    • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                      @Nepia said in Foster:

                                      @akan004 said in Foster:

                                      @Paekakboyz Who knows. Hopefully it's a bit like that unfounded rumour about Cane losing his captaincy.

                                      The other possibility is that he turned them down and I can see why Razor might not want the top job now, he's got a year to turn this rubble around and we probably don't have the cattle to win the RWC regardless of the coach, so it's a risky job to take atm.

                                      TBH, he would lose mana for me if that was the case. The cattle would be the same if he got the job back in 2020 and considering they're a rubble he basically has a free pass to stuff up over the next year and still be the coach after the RWC.

                                      When does an AB coach get a free pass….

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                                      @ACT-Crusader said in Foster:

                                      @Nepia said in Foster:

                                      @akan004 said in Foster:

                                      @Paekakboyz Who knows. Hopefully it's a bit like that unfounded rumour about Cane losing his captaincy.

                                      The other possibility is that he turned them down and I can see why Razor might not want the top job now, he's got a year to turn this rubble around and we probably don't have the cattle to win the RWC regardless of the coach, so it's a risky job to take atm.

                                      TBH, he would lose mana for me if that was the case. The cattle would be the same if he got the job back in 2020 and considering they're a rubble he basically has a free pass to stuff up over the next year and still be the coach after the RWC.

                                      When does an AB coach get a free pass….

                                      2021

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                                      • A akan004

                                        Hopefully not true although something similar was mentioned on stuff today.

                                        https://twitter.com/martindevlinnz/status/1556544005730537472?t=xUPVY6sI7lbhBClXEDdXMA&s=19

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                                        @akan004 said in Foster:

                                        Hopefully not true although something similar was mentioned on stuff today.

                                        https://twitter.com/martindevlinnz/status/1556544005730537472?t=xUPVY6sI7lbhBClXEDdXMA&s=19

                                        Wasn't it made clear they were getting another backs coach after SA tour?

                                        It's probably referring to Leon MacDonald coming on board as backs coach - as Foster was only meant to be taking over Mooar's portfolio for SA, then I'd assume McDonald would join them for the upcoming NZ leg...

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                                        • canefanC canefan

                                          @ACT-Crusader said in Foster:

                                          @Nepia said in Foster:

                                          @akan004 said in Foster:

                                          @Paekakboyz Who knows. Hopefully it's a bit like that unfounded rumour about Cane losing his captaincy.

                                          The other possibility is that he turned them down and I can see why Razor might not want the top job now, he's got a year to turn this rubble around and we probably don't have the cattle to win the RWC regardless of the coach, so it's a risky job to take atm.

                                          TBH, he would lose mana for me if that was the case. The cattle would be the same if he got the job back in 2020 and considering they're a rubble he basically has a free pass to stuff up over the next year and still be the coach after the RWC.

                                          When does an AB coach get a free pass….

                                          2021

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                                          @canefan said in Foster:

                                          @ACT-Crusader said in Foster:

                                          @Nepia said in Foster:

                                          @akan004 said in Foster:

                                          @Paekakboyz Who knows. Hopefully it's a bit like that unfounded rumour about Cane losing his captaincy.

                                          The other possibility is that he turned them down and I can see why Razor might not want the top job now, he's got a year to turn this rubble around and we probably don't have the cattle to win the RWC regardless of the coach, so it's a risky job to take atm.

                                          TBH, he would lose mana for me if that was the case. The cattle would be the same if he got the job back in 2020 and considering they're a rubble he basically has a free pass to stuff up over the next year and still be the coach after the RWC.

                                          When does an AB coach get a free pass….

                                          2021

                                          Not from a public perspective. There was strong discontent out there last year. The media weren’t game enough to get stuck in though.

                                          Pressure will be up tenfold in my view and whoever comes in, there will be the shortest of honeymoon periods

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