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Springboks v All Blacks 2

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  • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

    @Bones said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

    @mariner4life said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

    I am not yet 100% convinced Ioane is the answer at 6

    Thing is though, with the way the team is going, are we even convinced of anyone? Bower was going from strength to strength and even he is now on a downward slide. Jordan is nowhere, despite him being the big showpiece last year. Scooter goes in fits and starts and doesn't know if he's a 6 or 4. Smith was in the top couple of HB's in the world last year, now he's just a hospital pass merchant. Beauden, the guy who's been world player of the year twice is reminiscent of Donald. The list goes on and on...

    Taukieaho is showing his worth, but even he looks pretty average surrounded by no support.

    6 runs for 15 metres and he was lauded….

    Next we’ll be claiming moral victories when we have close losses.

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    Bones
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    #381

    @ACT-Crusader said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

    close losses

    Imagine how good the performance would have to be to achieve that.

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    • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

      @Bones said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

      @mariner4life said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

      I am not yet 100% convinced Ioane is the answer at 6

      Thing is though, with the way the team is going, are we even convinced of anyone? Bower was going from strength to strength and even he is now on a downward slide. Jordan is nowhere, despite him being the big showpiece last year. Scooter goes in fits and starts and doesn't know if he's a 6 or 4. Smith was in the top couple of HB's in the world last year, now he's just a hospital pass merchant. Beauden, the guy who's been world player of the year twice is reminiscent of Donald. The list goes on and on...

      Taukieaho is showing his worth, but even he looks pretty average surrounded by no support.

      6 runs for 15 metres and he was lauded….

      Next we’ll be claiming moral victories when we have close losses.

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      Nepia
      wrote on last edited by
      #382

      @ACT-Crusader said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

      @Bones said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

      @mariner4life said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

      I am not yet 100% convinced Ioane is the answer at 6

      Thing is though, with the way the team is going, are we even convinced of anyone? Bower was going from strength to strength and even he is now on a downward slide. Jordan is nowhere, despite him being the big showpiece last year. Scooter goes in fits and starts and doesn't know if he's a 6 or 4. Smith was in the top couple of HB's in the world last year, now he's just a hospital pass merchant. Beauden, the guy who's been world player of the year twice is reminiscent of Donald. The list goes on and on...

      Taukieaho is showing his worth, but even he looks pretty average surrounded by no support.

      6 runs for 15 metres and he was lauded….

      Next we’ll be claiming moral victories when we have close losses.

      Scott Barrett is lauded for less. 😉

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      • NepiaN Nepia

        @Crucial said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

        @Nepia said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

        @pakman said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

        Hunch that Frizell will get 6.

        Sadly I expect this to be the case. This might be my breaking point with this team. 😉

        He creates points though. Even if it is both ways.
        Some may not like the truth but Akira doesn’t cut it. Reaction time too slow at this level.

        Why on earth would you claim Akira doesn't cut it when discussing Frizzell coming in? He got points as he was a fresh replacement able to keep up with the attack. In the last Irish test Akira created points out of strength and speed.

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        Crucial
        wrote on last edited by
        #383

        @Nepia said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

        @Crucial said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

        @Nepia said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

        @pakman said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

        Hunch that Frizell will get 6.

        Sadly I expect this to be the case. This might be my breaking point with this team. 😉

        He creates points though. Even if it is both ways.
        Some may not like the truth but Akira doesn’t cut it. Reaction time too slow at this level.

        Why on earth would you claim Akira doesn't cut it when discussing Frizzell coming in? He got points as he was a fresh replacement able to keep up with the attack. In the last Irish test Akira created points out of strength and speed.

        The first part of the post was obviously a joke (both ways)
        The second a possible reason for looking elsewhere. There wasn’t much strength and speed in Akiras play on the weekend

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        • TimT Away
          TimT Away
          Tim
          wrote on last edited by
          #384

          https://www.rugbypass.com/news/the-all-blacks-lost-their-edge-years-ago/

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          • CrucialC Crucial

            @Nepia said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

            @Crucial said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

            @Nepia said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

            @pakman said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

            Hunch that Frizell will get 6.

            Sadly I expect this to be the case. This might be my breaking point with this team. 😉

            He creates points though. Even if it is both ways.
            Some may not like the truth but Akira doesn’t cut it. Reaction time too slow at this level.

            Why on earth would you claim Akira doesn't cut it when discussing Frizzell coming in? He got points as he was a fresh replacement able to keep up with the attack. In the last Irish test Akira created points out of strength and speed.

            The first part of the post was obviously a joke (both ways)
            The second a possible reason for looking elsewhere. There wasn’t much strength and speed in Akiras play on the weekend

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            Nepia
            wrote on last edited by
            #385

            @Crucial said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

            @Nepia said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

            @Crucial said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

            @Nepia said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

            @pakman said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

            Hunch that Frizell will get 6.

            Sadly I expect this to be the case. This might be my breaking point with this team. 😉

            He creates points though. Even if it is both ways.
            Some may not like the truth but Akira doesn’t cut it. Reaction time too slow at this level.

            Why on earth would you claim Akira doesn't cut it when discussing Frizzell coming in? He got points as he was a fresh replacement able to keep up with the attack. In the last Irish test Akira created points out of strength and speed.

            The first part of the post was obviously a joke (both ways)
            The second a possible reason for looking elsewhere. There wasn’t much strength and speed in Akiras play on the weekend

            He managed to make more metres and tackles than Scooter so once he gets the "look" down pat he'll be right. 😉

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            • NepiaN Nepia

              @Crucial said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

              @Nepia said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

              @Crucial said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

              @Nepia said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

              @pakman said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

              Hunch that Frizell will get 6.

              Sadly I expect this to be the case. This might be my breaking point with this team. 😉

              He creates points though. Even if it is both ways.
              Some may not like the truth but Akira doesn’t cut it. Reaction time too slow at this level.

              Why on earth would you claim Akira doesn't cut it when discussing Frizzell coming in? He got points as he was a fresh replacement able to keep up with the attack. In the last Irish test Akira created points out of strength and speed.

              The first part of the post was obviously a joke (both ways)
              The second a possible reason for looking elsewhere. There wasn’t much strength and speed in Akiras play on the weekend

              He managed to make more metres and tackles than Scooter so once he gets the "look" down pat he'll be right. 😉

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              Crucial
              wrote on last edited by
              #386

              @Nepia said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

              @Crucial said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

              @Nepia said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

              @Crucial said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

              @Nepia said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

              @pakman said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

              Hunch that Frizell will get 6.

              Sadly I expect this to be the case. This might be my breaking point with this team. 😉

              He creates points though. Even if it is both ways.
              Some may not like the truth but Akira doesn’t cut it. Reaction time too slow at this level.

              Why on earth would you claim Akira doesn't cut it when discussing Frizzell coming in? He got points as he was a fresh replacement able to keep up with the attack. In the last Irish test Akira created points out of strength and speed.

              The first part of the post was obviously a joke (both ways)
              The second a possible reason for looking elsewhere. There wasn’t much strength and speed in Akiras play on the weekend

              He managed to make more metres and tackles than Scooter so once he gets the "look" down pat he'll be right. 😉

              The Naki Hillbilly look?

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              • TimT Tim

                https://www.rugbypass.com/news/the-all-blacks-lost-their-edge-years-ago/

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                taniwharugby
                wrote on last edited by
                #387

                @Tim funny how most here have seen the issues showing since 2017, but was really 2019 when things really came to the fore, covid kinda hid it, but also accelerated it, so now here we are, staring at 4 in a row, 6 from our last 7 even!

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                • CrucialC Crucial

                  @Nepia said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                  @Crucial said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                  @Nepia said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                  @Crucial said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                  @Nepia said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                  @pakman said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                  Hunch that Frizell will get 6.

                  Sadly I expect this to be the case. This might be my breaking point with this team. 😉

                  He creates points though. Even if it is both ways.
                  Some may not like the truth but Akira doesn’t cut it. Reaction time too slow at this level.

                  Why on earth would you claim Akira doesn't cut it when discussing Frizzell coming in? He got points as he was a fresh replacement able to keep up with the attack. In the last Irish test Akira created points out of strength and speed.

                  The first part of the post was obviously a joke (both ways)
                  The second a possible reason for looking elsewhere. There wasn’t much strength and speed in Akiras play on the weekend

                  He managed to make more metres and tackles than Scooter so once he gets the "look" down pat he'll be right. 😉

                  The Naki Hillbilly look?

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                  Bones
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #388

                  @Crucial said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                  @Nepia said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                  @Crucial said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                  @Nepia said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                  @Crucial said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                  @Nepia said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                  @pakman said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                  Hunch that Frizell will get 6.

                  Sadly I expect this to be the case. This might be my breaking point with this team. 😉

                  He creates points though. Even if it is both ways.
                  Some may not like the truth but Akira doesn’t cut it. Reaction time too slow at this level.

                  Why on earth would you claim Akira doesn't cut it when discussing Frizzell coming in? He got points as he was a fresh replacement able to keep up with the attack. In the last Irish test Akira created points out of strength and speed.

                  The first part of the post was obviously a joke (both ways)
                  The second a possible reason for looking elsewhere. There wasn’t much strength and speed in Akiras play on the weekend

                  He managed to make more metres and tackles than Scooter so once he gets the "look" down pat he'll be right. 😉

                  The Naki Hillbilly look?

                  https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0381707/

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                    pakman
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #389

                    Watching Townsville, and then Squidge analysis of Wobblies win over Boks, it is apparent that Rennie tactic of 10 standing 3-5m deeper worked better than Foster flat positioning.
                    Couple of reasons:

                    1. Flat and Bok outside in rush leaves no margin for error in passing. In both Townsville and last Saturday ABs made numerous errors under pressure. And flat means easier for Boks loosies to swoop.
                    2. Bok system means 14 and 13 come in on slight fish hook/inverted dog leg shape. Having to cover the extra metres accentuates that and creates a gap, which Rennie had designed plays to exploit.
                      We’ll have to wait and see whether or not Foster has seen fit to introduce variation…
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                    • BonesB Bones

                      @Crucial said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                      @Nepia said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                      @Crucial said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                      @Nepia said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                      @Crucial said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                      @Nepia said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                      @pakman said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                      Hunch that Frizell will get 6.

                      Sadly I expect this to be the case. This might be my breaking point with this team. 😉

                      He creates points though. Even if it is both ways.
                      Some may not like the truth but Akira doesn’t cut it. Reaction time too slow at this level.

                      Why on earth would you claim Akira doesn't cut it when discussing Frizzell coming in? He got points as he was a fresh replacement able to keep up with the attack. In the last Irish test Akira created points out of strength and speed.

                      The first part of the post was obviously a joke (both ways)
                      The second a possible reason for looking elsewhere. There wasn’t much strength and speed in Akiras play on the weekend

                      He managed to make more metres and tackles than Scooter so once he gets the "look" down pat he'll be right. 😉

                      The Naki Hillbilly look?

                      https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0381707/

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                      Crucial
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #390

                      @Bones this is how I picture Scooter Barrett on his days off

                      7D30EF7F-FF5F-4D14-B468-353872FE8A7D.jpeg

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                      • CrucialC Crucial

                        @Bones this is how I picture Scooter Barrett on his days off

                        7D30EF7F-FF5F-4D14-B468-353872FE8A7D.jpeg

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                        Bones
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #391

                        @Crucial said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                        @Bones this is how I picture Scooter Barrett on his days off

                        7D30EF7F-FF5F-4D14-B468-353872FE8A7D.jpeg

                        According to @Nepia that was him last Saturday

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                          reddog
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #392

                          I see the Boss there too. Mark Robinson waddling around. Keeping a closer eye on Fozzie.

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                            Bones
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #393

                            https://www.rugbypass.com/news/the-quick-solution-to-improve-the-all-blacks-backline-chemistry/

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                            • BonesB Bones

                              @Crucial said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                              @Bones this is how I picture Scooter Barrett on his days off

                              7D30EF7F-FF5F-4D14-B468-353872FE8A7D.jpeg

                              According to @Nepia that was him last Saturday

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                              Nepia
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #394

                              @Bones said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                              @Crucial said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                              @Bones this is how I picture Scooter Barrett on his days off

                              7D30EF7F-FF5F-4D14-B468-353872FE8A7D.jpeg

                              According to @Nepia that was him last Saturday

                              Well that's not correct, I'm just pushing back on the assertion he was this last Saturday.

                              https://imageio.forbes.com/blogs-images/jvchamary/files/2016/03/man_of_steel-1200x800.jpg?format=jpg&width=960

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                              • NepiaN Nepia

                                @Bones said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                                @Crucial said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                                @Bones this is how I picture Scooter Barrett on his days off

                                7D30EF7F-FF5F-4D14-B468-353872FE8A7D.jpeg

                                According to @Nepia that was him last Saturday

                                Well that's not correct, I'm just pushing back on the assertion he was this last Saturday.

                                https://imageio.forbes.com/blogs-images/jvchamary/files/2016/03/man_of_steel-1200x800.jpg?format=jpg&width=960

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                                Bones
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #395

                                @Nepia said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                                @Bones said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                                @Crucial said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                                @Bones this is how I picture Scooter Barrett on his days off

                                7D30EF7F-FF5F-4D14-B468-353872FE8A7D.jpeg

                                According to @Nepia that was him last Saturday

                                Well that's not correct, I'm just pushing back on the assertion he was this last Saturday.

                                https://imageio.forbes.com/blogs-images/jvchamary/files/2016/03/man_of_steel-1200x800.jpg?format=jpg&width=960

                                I'd be interested in where those assertions are....

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                                • BonesB Bones

                                  @Nepia said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                                  @Bones said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                                  @Crucial said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                                  @Bones this is how I picture Scooter Barrett on his days off

                                  7D30EF7F-FF5F-4D14-B468-353872FE8A7D.jpeg

                                  According to @Nepia that was him last Saturday

                                  Well that's not correct, I'm just pushing back on the assertion he was this last Saturday.

                                  https://imageio.forbes.com/blogs-images/jvchamary/files/2016/03/man_of_steel-1200x800.jpg?format=jpg&width=960

                                  I'd be interested in where those assertions are....

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                                  Nepia
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #396

                                  @Bones said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                                  @Nepia said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                                  @Bones said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                                  @Crucial said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                                  @Bones this is how I picture Scooter Barrett on his days off

                                  7D30EF7F-FF5F-4D14-B468-353872FE8A7D.jpeg

                                  According to @Nepia that was him last Saturday

                                  Well that's not correct, I'm just pushing back on the assertion he was this last Saturday.

                                  https://imageio.forbes.com/blogs-images/jvchamary/files/2016/03/man_of_steel-1200x800.jpg?format=jpg&width=960

                                  I'd be interested in where those assertions are....

                                  MOTM thread, match thread ...

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                                  • NepiaN Nepia

                                    @Bones said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                                    @Nepia said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                                    @Bones said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                                    @Crucial said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                                    @Bones this is how I picture Scooter Barrett on his days off

                                    7D30EF7F-FF5F-4D14-B468-353872FE8A7D.jpeg

                                    According to @Nepia that was him last Saturday

                                    Well that's not correct, I'm just pushing back on the assertion he was this last Saturday.

                                    https://imageio.forbes.com/blogs-images/jvchamary/files/2016/03/man_of_steel-1200x800.jpg?format=jpg&width=960

                                    I'd be interested in where those assertions are....

                                    MOTM thread, match thread ...

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                                    Bones
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #397

                                    @Nepia said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                                    @Bones said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                                    @Nepia said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                                    @Bones said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                                    @Crucial said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                                    @Bones this is how I picture Scooter Barrett on his days off

                                    7D30EF7F-FF5F-4D14-B468-353872FE8A7D.jpeg

                                    According to @Nepia that was him last Saturday

                                    Well that's not correct, I'm just pushing back on the assertion he was this last Saturday.

                                    https://imageio.forbes.com/blogs-images/jvchamary/files/2016/03/man_of_steel-1200x800.jpg?format=jpg&width=960

                                    I'd be interested in where those assertions are....

                                    MOTM thread, match thread ...

                                    Nope. No one said that...

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                                    • BonesB Bones

                                      @Nepia said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                                      @Bones said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                                      @Nepia said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                                      @Bones said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                                      @Crucial said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                                      @Bones this is how I picture Scooter Barrett on his days off

                                      7D30EF7F-FF5F-4D14-B468-353872FE8A7D.jpeg

                                      According to @Nepia that was him last Saturday

                                      Well that's not correct, I'm just pushing back on the assertion he was this last Saturday.

                                      https://imageio.forbes.com/blogs-images/jvchamary/files/2016/03/man_of_steel-1200x800.jpg?format=jpg&width=960

                                      I'd be interested in where those assertions are....

                                      MOTM thread, match thread ...

                                      Nope. No one said that...

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                                      Nepia
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #398

                                      @Bones said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                                      @Nepia said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                                      @Bones said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                                      @Nepia said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                                      @Bones said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                                      @Crucial said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                                      @Bones this is how I picture Scooter Barrett on his days off

                                      7D30EF7F-FF5F-4D14-B468-353872FE8A7D.jpeg

                                      According to @Nepia that was him last Saturday

                                      Well that's not correct, I'm just pushing back on the assertion he was this last Saturday.

                                      https://imageio.forbes.com/blogs-images/jvchamary/files/2016/03/man_of_steel-1200x800.jpg?format=jpg&width=960

                                      I'd be interested in where those assertions are....

                                      MOTM thread, match thread ...

                                      Nope. No one said that...

                                      Are we playing that game? I attached the same amount of hyperbole to my comment as you did yours claiming I said he was:

                                      https://www.forum.thesilverfern.com/assets/uploads/files/1660200638461-7d30ef7f-ff5f-4d14-b468-353872fe8a7d.jpeg

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                                      • NepiaN Nepia

                                        @Bones said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                                        @Nepia said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                                        @Bones said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                                        @Nepia said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                                        @Bones said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                                        @Crucial said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                                        @Bones this is how I picture Scooter Barrett on his days off

                                        7D30EF7F-FF5F-4D14-B468-353872FE8A7D.jpeg

                                        According to @Nepia that was him last Saturday

                                        Well that's not correct, I'm just pushing back on the assertion he was this last Saturday.

                                        https://imageio.forbes.com/blogs-images/jvchamary/files/2016/03/man_of_steel-1200x800.jpg?format=jpg&width=960

                                        I'd be interested in where those assertions are....

                                        MOTM thread, match thread ...

                                        Nope. No one said that...

                                        Are we playing that game? I attached the same amount of hyperbole to my comment as you did yours claiming I said he was:

                                        https://www.forum.thesilverfern.com/assets/uploads/files/1660200638461-7d30ef7f-ff5f-4d14-b468-353872fe8a7d.jpeg

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                                        Bones
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                                        @Nepia on a day off? Yeah

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                                          @OomPB said in Springboks v All Blacks 2 (Fozzie's Swansong??):

                                          The quicker the Springbokke forget about last night the better. Suppose Faf and KL Arendse will be out. RasNaber won't change much maybe Kriel on the wing and H Jantjies in. Was enjoying the bit of phase play at the start until they realized the All Blacks catch a cold in the air. Some of the Boks will need a rest at sometime. Maybe bring Ox and Tank on the bench, start with Kitshoff.

                                          Can't see the Boks losing against the absolute rabble in Black at the moment. We're a shower of shit. Worst AB team of my lifetime. If you're a Boks fan get a ticket to Ellis Park if you possibly can. The ABs are going to get whipped.

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