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Springboks v All Blacks 2

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  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

    @Kirwan only consolation is they seem to manage better at super?

    Man did Sotutu take the last donut or something?

    I'd love to see what Fozzie sees in frizzel.

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    @taniwharugby said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

    I'd love to see what Fozzie sees in frizzel.

    On the radio this morning he said 'a different kind of physicality' to Akira.

    No idea what that means.

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      @taniwharugby said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

      I'd love to see what Fozzie sees in frizzel.

      On the radio this morning he said 'a different kind of physicality' to Akira.

      No idea what that means.

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      @nzzp Akira can catch a ball on his try line?

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        @taniwharugby said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

        I'd love to see what Fozzie sees in frizzel.

        On the radio this morning he said 'a different kind of physicality' to Akira.

        No idea what that means.

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        @nzzp

        I am no fozzie fan but I think I know what he is alluding to.

        Akira is more swerve and fend. A bit upright.

        Frizzell will put the head down and carry into dark places. Ive never been convinced by him though off field issues notwithstanding.

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          @nzzp

          I am no fozzie fan but I think I know what he is alluding to.

          Akira is more swerve and fend. A bit upright.

          Frizzell will put the head down and carry into dark places. Ive never been convinced by him though off field issues notwithstanding.

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          @Steve but without actual physicality...

          @Crucial well as I said last week, you'd hope he has some influence over selections, so maybe he has seen something in Lomax he can utilise, or maybe he got over ruled on his preferred 8?

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            we are honestly getting into the territory of just telling the players :

            "the ball doesn't go passed Mo'unga"

            up the guts and kick the leather off it.

            Move the scoreboard in increments of 3.

            James Parsons alluded to it on the latest Aotearoa podcast. Some guys such as Bower are waiting as tip runners to throw a pass out the back. Instead of just telling them to fucking mill into the next ruck. They are trying to be ball players too.

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              Anyone even looking at a ruck should be getting put on his arse this weekend.

              None of this Lukhanyo Am nudging Bower to create a gap for Marx to jackal.

              Every single arsehole within 5 yards of a breakdown should be getting torpedoed. Ref included.

              Ruck Jihad.

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                Anyone even looking at a ruck should be getting put on his arse this weekend.

                None of this Lukhanyo Am nudging Bower to create a gap for Marx to jackal.

                Every single arsehole within 5 yards of a breakdown should be getting torpedoed. Ref included.

                Ruck Jihad.

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                @Steve said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                None of this Lukhanyo Am nudging Bower to create a gap for Marx to jackal.

                goddamn preach mate. That pissed me off no end. Different ref rules that VERY differently ... hence my optimistic prediction of an AB win.

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                  @Steve said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                  None of this Lukhanyo Am nudging Bower to create a gap for Marx to jackal.

                  goddamn preach mate. That pissed me off no end. Different ref rules that VERY differently ... hence my optimistic prediction of an AB win.

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                  @nzzp

                  we can't leave it to the ref this week. Flatten everyone.

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                    Hoped to see Reece Sotutu and Ross. Oh well. Good luck AB's. Lots of motivation.

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                      Whereas we've had no motivation the previous two weeks?

                      I think by now it is clear that motivation isn't going to save us. We'll clear to everyone but Foster, apparently.

                      I have to say I'm impressed. After a run of terrible results to keep hoping that doing the same things over and over will give better results speaks to some awesome, absolutely world class, gold-medal winning, stubbornness.

                      Our results in rugby may be shit, but we have a world leader in pig-headedness!!!

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                        Hoped to see Reece Sotutu and Ross. Oh well. Good luck AB's. Lots of motivation.

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                        @ARHS said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                        Hoped to see Reece Sotutu and Ross. Oh well. Good luck AB's. Lots of motivation.

                        One thing that seems odd is the squaddies selected but not used. Is this because the selection was a mistake (as the PGS example implies) or is it a lack of confidence?
                        Also possible that it is a symptom of the losses and they approach of putting it back on the incumbents to fix things.
                        It doesn't provide a lot of confidence in the squad selectors when they select players, don't use them then jump someone else over them. eg Ross
                        I like DeGroot as a player but it would also make sense against SA to have a Chiefs FR and a Saders FR to swap between (as suggested by someone earlier). They know how to work together and when SB and Whitelock are the locks the whole Saders tight 5 could have a spell together

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                          I don't mind Akira on the bench.

                          In 3 tests vs the Boks starting he hasn't convinced and he was good off of the bench in Dublin last year (remember the disallowed try forward pass Rieko to Akira).

                          The problem is Frizell is definitely not the answer.

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                            @nzzp

                            we can't leave it to the ref this week. Flatten everyone.

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                            @Steve said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                            @nzzp

                            we can't leave it to the ref this week. Flatten everyone.

                            Got to do that but be smart. If the ref pings everyone for cleanouts near the ruck (remember Ireladn 1 or 2 - there was some bullshit call on the right hand touchline early; Akira or Scott I think) then you have to be very focussed and directed.

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                              @Steve said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                              @nzzp

                              we can't leave it to the ref this week. Flatten everyone.

                              Got to do that but be smart. If the ref pings everyone for cleanouts near the ruck (remember Ireladn 1 or 2 - there was some bullshit call on the right hand touchline early; Akira or Scott I think) then you have to be very focussed and directed.

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                              @nzzp It was Papalii who got the ridiculous call.

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                                @nzzp

                                we can't leave it to the ref this week. Flatten everyone.

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                                @Steve said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                                @nzzp

                                we can't leave it to the ref this week. Flatten everyone.

                                Be whiny bitches and run to every tackle shouting 'Tackler release!'. If ref gets upset let him know that you were trying to save him from blowing a penalty.

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                                  @ARHS said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                                  Hoped to see Reece Sotutu and Ross. Oh well. Good luck AB's. Lots of motivation.

                                  One thing that seems odd is the squaddies selected but not used. Is this because the selection was a mistake (as the PGS example implies) or is it a lack of confidence?
                                  Also possible that it is a symptom of the losses and they approach of putting it back on the incumbents to fix things.
                                  It doesn't provide a lot of confidence in the squad selectors when they select players, don't use them then jump someone else over them. eg Ross
                                  I like DeGroot as a player but it would also make sense against SA to have a Chiefs FR and a Saders FR to swap between (as suggested by someone earlier). They know how to work together and when SB and Whitelock are the locks the whole Saders tight 5 could have a spell together

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                                  @Crucial yes and I agree about lack of combos but perhaps they don't want to admit they can't build better combos than the ones at super rugby? It is a remarkably inexplicable talent to select mostly the same players as often as Foster does who seem to gel together less and less.

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                                    I thought Bower has been strong all season, it wasn't his side getting pinged last week.

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                                      https://amp.rugbypass.com/news/jake-white-the-all-blacks-are-in-uncharted-territory/

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                                        @mariner4life said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                                        @Crucial said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                                        @Nepia said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                                        @pakman said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                                        Hunch that Frizell will get 6.

                                        Sadly I expect this to be the case. This might be my breaking point with this team. 😉

                                        He creates points though. Even if it is both ways.
                                        Some may not like the truth but Akira doesn’t cut it. Reaction time too slow at this level.

                                        and Frizzell does?

                                        I am not yet 100% convinced Ioane is the answer at 6

                                        But i am convinced by the absolute mountain of evidence that Frizzell isn't

                                        It looks like they are trying to pick the least worst option at 6... I still prefer SB over both AK and SF... Bet ethan blackadders gutted about his shoulder... As this would have been a great opportunity to make strong claims..
                                        Cos one thing both AK and SF have consistently failed to do... Is make the #6 theirs....

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                                        @Mattasaurus said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                                        Cos one thing both AK and SF have consistently failed to do... Is make the #6 theirs....

                                        the problem right there is

                                        Ioane got two tests in a row. In one he was the best or 2nd best AB on the paddock by a wide margin. In the other he actually had a good game.
                                        And now he's dropped.
                                        You cannot "make a jersey yours" when you don't actually get a decent run at it, no matter what you do.

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                                          we are honestly getting into the territory of just telling the players :

                                          "the ball doesn't go passed Mo'unga"

                                          up the guts and kick the leather off it.

                                          Move the scoreboard in increments of 3.

                                          James Parsons alluded to it on the latest Aotearoa podcast. Some guys such as Bower are waiting as tip runners to throw a pass out the back. Instead of just telling them to fucking mill into the next ruck. They are trying to be ball players too.

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                                          @Steve said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                                          we are honestly getting into the territory of just telling the players :

                                          "the ball doesn't go passed Mo'unga"

                                          up the guts and kick the leather off it.

                                          Move the scoreboard in increments of 3.

                                          James Parsons alluded to it on the latest Aotearoa podcast. Some guys such as Bower are waiting as tip runners to throw a pass out the back. Instead of just telling them to fucking mill into the next ruck. They are trying to be ball players too.

                                          At least until we actually get some go forward and for the love of Wonder Woman, Aaron Smith, please run from the base of the ruck.

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