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  • S Steve

    @BerniesCorner

    It has been so scattergun post 2019.

    Robertson overlooked for the gig.

    Laumape got ran out of town.

    Sowakula. Capped and scrapped. Jacobsen similar.

    Ennor doing the Hokey Cokey in and out of squads to ride the pine.

    Clarke goes off to 7's for a year and doesn't get a gig.

    Papalii utilised on EOYT and played decent enough in Dublin. Not a look in this time.

    RTS comes on against Ireland at 13. Played all year at 12.

    Fainganuuku been sent to coventry already.

    Still really know nothing about Vaii due to lack of meaningful minutes.

    Karl T gets called in against the Irish with one foot out the exit door. Hailed as our "best scrummager" but doesn't get picked.

    Samisoni dropped for 3rd test after playing well .

    Will Jordan benched for the second test.

    The whole thing is a dogs breakfast.

    Nobody knows where they stand bar Cane, the Barretts, Ardie, Aaron and Whitelock.

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    game_film
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    @Steve Thereโ€™s just too much that doesnโ€™t make sense here when laid out like that. Reminds me of when they brought in the Brisbane Broncos coach Wayne Bennett post 2007.

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      Anyone think he is sacked regardless of result this weekend or is he safe?

      Would a 1 point win save him?

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      • S Steve

        Anyone think he is sacked regardless of result this weekend or is he safe?

        Would a 1 point win save him?

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        stodders
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        @Steve said in Foster:

        Anyone think he is sacked regardless of result this weekend or is he safe?

        Would a 1 point win save him?

        He got a bit tetchy towards the end of his press conference explaining the selections. He's normally pretty laid back, so it was more noticeable.

        Hopefully, if it is his last test as head coach, he can go out on a high. If ABs play well, he can at least say I told you so. Big if...

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        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

          @Bones Wayne Smith also didnt return to the AB set up as Head Coach...

          I am surprised Fozzie hasnt suggested what Henry, Hansen and SMith did...shuffle the coaching roles

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          @taniwharugby Hell no!! So he can get another bite of the cherry?

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          • broughieB broughie

            @taniwharugby Hell no!! So he can get another bite of the cherry?

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            nostrildamus
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            @broughie not unless we we are talking about the hawt thread.

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            • S Steve

              Anyone think he is sacked regardless of result this weekend or is he safe?

              Would a 1 point win save him?

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              Crucial
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              @Steve said in Foster:

              Anyone think he is sacked regardless of result this weekend or is he safe?

              Would a 1 point win save him?

              Don't forget the rather big element that they need to fly back and get ready for another test in two weeks. Add in other possible upheavals in personnel and this would have to be really well planned through.
              Possibility of a phasing out through the Argies games and a new crack for the Bled?

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              • CrucialC Crucial

                @Steve said in Foster:

                Anyone think he is sacked regardless of result this weekend or is he safe?

                Would a 1 point win save him?

                Don't forget the rather big element that they need to fly back and get ready for another test in two weeks. Add in other possible upheavals in personnel and this would have to be really well planned through.
                Possibility of a phasing out through the Argies games and a new crack for the Bled?

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                stodders
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                #2290

                @Crucial said in Foster:

                @Steve said in Foster:

                Anyone think he is sacked regardless of result this weekend or is he safe?

                Would a 1 point win save him?

                Don't forget the rather big element that they need to fly back and get ready for another test in two weeks. Add in other possible upheavals in personnel and this would have to be really well planned through.
                Possibility of a phasing out through the Argies games and a new crack for the Bled?

                Joe Schmidt is already in NZ. There is continuity. And flying to Oz isn't too much of a stretch. Which paves the way for a new coach for EOYT.

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                • S stodders

                  @Crucial said in Foster:

                  @Steve said in Foster:

                  Anyone think he is sacked regardless of result this weekend or is he safe?

                  Would a 1 point win save him?

                  Don't forget the rather big element that they need to fly back and get ready for another test in two weeks. Add in other possible upheavals in personnel and this would have to be really well planned through.
                  Possibility of a phasing out through the Argies games and a new crack for the Bled?

                  Joe Schmidt is already in NZ. There is continuity. And flying to Oz isn't too much of a stretch. Which paves the way for a new coach for EOYT.

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                  kidcalder
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                  @stodders said in Foster:

                  @Crucial said in Foster:

                  @Steve said in Foster:

                  Anyone think he is sacked regardless of result this weekend or is he safe?

                  Would a 1 point win save him?

                  Don't forget the rather big element that they need to fly back and get ready for another test in two weeks. Add in other possible upheavals in personnel and this would have to be really well planned through.
                  Possibility of a phasing out through the Argies games and a new crack for the Bled?

                  Joe Schmidt is already in NZ. There is continuity. And flying to Oz isn't too much of a stretch. Which paves the way for a new coach for EOYT.

                  Pretty much as I see it - Schmidt caretakes before Razor can take over EOYT and gets to pick his own players.

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                    I wonder what Gatland might be quietly doing ...

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                    • TimT Tim

                      I wonder what Gatland might be quietly doing ...

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                      Crucial
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                      @Tim said in Foster:

                      I wonder what Gatland might be quietly doing ...

                      Please don't.
                      There's one coach with a worse record at the Chiefs than Fosterand that's our mate Wazza.

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                      • CrucialC Crucial

                        @Tim said in Foster:

                        I wonder what Gatland might be quietly doing ...

                        Please don't.
                        There's one coach with a worse record at the Chiefs than Fosterand that's our mate Wazza.

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                        stodders
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                        @Crucial said in Foster:

                        @Tim said in Foster:

                        I wonder what Gatland might be quietly doing ...

                        Please don't.
                        There's one coach with a worse record at the Chiefs than Fosterand that's our mate Wazza.

                        He does know how to get limited teams to RWC SFs though ๐Ÿ˜‰ Sorry @MiketheSnow

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                        • S stodders

                          @Crucial said in Foster:

                          @Tim said in Foster:

                          I wonder what Gatland might be quietly doing ...

                          Please don't.
                          There's one coach with a worse record at the Chiefs than Fosterand that's our mate Wazza.

                          He does know how to get limited teams to RWC SFs though ๐Ÿ˜‰ Sorry @MiketheSnow

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                          Machpants
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                          @stodders said in Foster:

                          @Crucial said in Foster:

                          @Tim said in Foster:

                          I wonder what Gatland might be quietly doing ...

                          Please don't.
                          There's one coach with a worse record at the Chiefs than Fosterand that's our mate Wazza.

                          He does know how to get limited teams to RWC SFs though ๐Ÿ˜‰ Sorry @MiketheSnow

                          Oh thatโ€™s us ATM! Sign him up!

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                          • KirwanK Kirwan

                            Never been more certain that the ABs are going to lose a test. Iโ€™m usually unreasonably optimistic.

                            I really hope they have another coach lined up.

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                            Nepia
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                            @Kirwan said in Foster:

                            Never been more certain that the ABs are going to lose a test. Iโ€™m usually unreasonably optimistic.

                            I really hope they have another coach lined up.

                            I feel the same way. I've even thought we were going to win the last 3 matches going into them. Clearly I'm a functioning idiot.

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                            • CrucialC Crucial

                              @Tim said in Foster:

                              I wonder what Gatland might be quietly doing ...

                              Please don't.
                              There's one coach with a worse record at the Chiefs than Fosterand that's our mate Wazza.

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                              nzzp
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                              @Crucial said in Foster:

                              @Tim said in Foster:

                              I wonder what Gatland might be quietly doing ...

                              Please don't.
                              There's one coach with a worse record at the Chiefs than Fosterand that's our mate Wazza.

                              Gats at the Chiefs may not have been a success, but I'd take him in a heartbeat over Foster. He knows how to win games at the top level, and gets teams up. You dno't get picked as a multi-Lions coach for nothing.

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                              • S Steve

                                @BerniesCorner

                                It has been so scattergun post 2019.

                                Robertson overlooked for the gig.

                                Laumape got ran out of town.

                                Sowakula. Capped and scrapped. Jacobsen similar.

                                Ennor doing the Hokey Cokey in and out of squads to ride the pine.

                                Clarke goes off to 7's for a year and doesn't get a gig.

                                Papalii utilised on EOYT and played decent enough in Dublin. Not a look in this time.

                                RTS comes on against Ireland at 13. Played all year at 12.

                                Fainganuuku been sent to coventry already.

                                Still really know nothing about Vaii due to lack of meaningful minutes.

                                Karl T gets called in against the Irish with one foot out the exit door. Hailed as our "best scrummager" but doesn't get picked.

                                Samisoni dropped for 3rd test after playing well .

                                Will Jordan benched for the second test.

                                The whole thing is a dogs breakfast.

                                Nobody knows where they stand bar Cane, the Barretts, Ardie, Aaron and Whitelock.

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                                ARHS
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                                @Steve That makes no sense. They can only start 15 and have 8 reserves in each match. Not many games to trial people in lately. France Ireland and South Africa are the weakest of our opponents in the past 7 matches. Maybe NZRU could have been kinder by having matches against lesser opponents or fielding an NZ XV during that sequence. But don't think the AB fans would take kindly to playing second xvs v leading nations like SA and France do.

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                                • nzzpN nzzp

                                  @Crucial said in Foster:

                                  @Tim said in Foster:

                                  I wonder what Gatland might be quietly doing ...

                                  Please don't.
                                  There's one coach with a worse record at the Chiefs than Fosterand that's our mate Wazza.

                                  Gats at the Chiefs may not have been a success, but I'd take him in a heartbeat over Foster. He knows how to win games at the top level, and gets teams up. You dno't get picked as a multi-Lions coach for nothing.

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                                  nostrildamus
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                                  @nzzp said in Foster:

                                  @Crucial said in Foster:

                                  @Tim said in Foster:

                                  I wonder what Gatland might be quietly doing ...

                                  Please don't.
                                  There's one coach with a worse record at the Chiefs than Fosterand that's our mate Wazza.

                                  Gats at the Chiefs may not have been a success, but I'd take him in a heartbeat over Foster. He knows how to win games at the top level, and gets teams up. You dno't get picked as a multi-Lions coach for nothing.

                                  Foster is a multi ABs coach (assistant, head, re-contracted head coach)...

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                                  • A ARHS

                                    @Steve That makes no sense. They can only start 15 and have 8 reserves in each match. Not many games to trial people in lately. France Ireland and South Africa are the weakest of our opponents in the past 7 matches. Maybe NZRU could have been kinder by having matches against lesser opponents or fielding an NZ XV during that sequence. But don't think the AB fans would take kindly to playing second xvs v leading nations like SA and France do.

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                                    Crucial
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                                    @ARHS said in Foster:

                                    @Steve That makes no sense. They can only start 15 and have 8 reserves in each match. Not many games to trial people in lately. France Ireland and South Africa are the weakest of our opponents in the past 7 matches. Maybe NZRU could have been kinder by having matches against lesser opponents or fielding an NZ XV during that sequence. But don't think the AB fans would take kindly to playing second xvs v leading nations like SA and France do.

                                    It's certainly something that hasn't helped. Foster is hellbent on his plan (whatever it is) and is having to try and find the right players to implements while fronting up to the top sides in the world at the moment. You can see how other coaches must have struggled for a number of years when the show was on the other foot.
                                    If the July games were against a team like Scotland I wonder if the ABs would have gelled better.

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                                      @Steve That makes no sense. They can only start 15 and have 8 reserves in each match. Not many games to trial people in lately. France Ireland and South Africa are the weakest of our opponents in the past 7 matches. Maybe NZRU could have been kinder by having matches against lesser opponents or fielding an NZ XV during that sequence. But don't think the AB fans would take kindly to playing second xvs v leading nations like SA and France do.

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                                      nostrildamus
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                                      @ARHS said in Foster:

                                      ..But don't think the AB fans would take kindly to playing second xvs v leading nations like SA and France do.

                                      It might have helped prepare for RWC...

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                                        Old Samurai Jack
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                                        Foster doesn't even make sense anymore. He seems detached from reality. I hope it is a front for the media for his sake.

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                                        • nzzpN nzzp

                                          @Crucial said in Foster:

                                          @Tim said in Foster:

                                          I wonder what Gatland might be quietly doing ...

                                          Please don't.
                                          There's one coach with a worse record at the Chiefs than Fosterand that's our mate Wazza.

                                          Gats at the Chiefs may not have been a success, but I'd take him in a heartbeat over Foster. He knows how to win games at the top level, and gets teams up. You dno't get picked as a multi-Lions coach for nothing.

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                                          Donsteppa
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                                          @nzzp said in Foster:

                                          @Crucial said in Foster:

                                          @Tim said in Foster:

                                          I wonder what Gatland might be quietly doing ...

                                          Please don't.
                                          There's one coach with a worse record at the Chiefs than Fosterand that's our mate Wazza.

                                          Gats at the Chiefs may not have been a success, but I'd take him in a heartbeat over Foster. He knows how to win games at the top level, and gets teams up. You dno't get picked as a multi-Lions coach for nothing.

                                          Given both his approach to the Chiefs role and his results, I'd like to see more of him back in the NZ environment first. Not a stance I'd normally take, but his Chiefs tenure left questions. While I'd also have Gatland as coach instead of Foster, thankfully it isn't a two-choice decision ๐Ÿ™‚

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