Foster, Robertson etc

stodders

@Billy-Tell said in Foster:

Do we think he’s gone-burgers?

A bit like the game last night, I wouldn't be surprised either way. There's been plenty of drums beating in the media and elsewhere, but the NZRU haven't taken a textbook management approach to any of it so far, so...!?

Mark Robinson and the NZR Board have an interesting few days ahead...

Robinson doesn't have a say, does he? Both Foster and Robinson report to the board, so only the board can relieve Foster of his duties.

Billy Tell

I hope he’s gone. Not up to it.

Machpants

@Billy-Tell said in Foster:

I hope he’s gone. Not up to it.

Me too, but I have absolutely no idea what NZR are going to pull out of their arse.

TheMojoman

I knew Fozzie would come through, always had faith in him..what an amazing coach

So NZR..where to from here?

Donsteppa

https://twitter.com/patmck6/status/1558591008778362880

Crucial

@Donsteppa said in Foster:

https://twitter.com/patmck6/status/1558591008778362880

Just came to post that too. Mentioned on the FPC game commentary

Old Samurai Jack

Surely Foster has to go. Once the glow of this performance wears off, we will be back in the shite soon enough if he stays.

Crucial

Not a great look for NZR though. I doubt Foster was lying when asked if he would still be coach in two weeks with his “I don’t know” comment. That shows that he wasn’t set a clear target to keep his job and NZR have been clearly working behind the scenes on a preset decision without telling him.

nostrildamus

Plusses
Brought back SF when no one else wanted him
seemed to pay off yesterday

Question
Chose Jason Ryan (or forced on him?)

Negatives
Seemed reluctant to bring back ST, EdG
Many positional swaps, slow to select new players, try out other 6s or new props
Thought Jordie would be a good winger
Not playing Reece much who has been arguably our best winger
Chose injury plagued Sam Cane as captain and arguably not best in his position
General games slide apart from yesterday
Playing DH against big physical sides until his confidence gone (exception: yesterday)
Questionable kicking tactics
Often bad bench timing
Very slow to react to changing opponent tactics

Crucial

Timing would be fucking awful for team morale too. They all have to travel back together with a guy they have clearly thrown support behind. Will have some players worried about their own job too.
I don’t mind a change but think it is important to manage it well, possibly with an agreed transition.

mariner4life

@Crucial said in Foster:

Timing would be fucking awful for team morale too. They all have to travel back together with a guy they have clearly thrown support behind. Will have some players worried about their own job too.
I don’t mind a change but think it is important to manage it well, possibly with an agreed transition.

I came to post exactly this.

Sacking a guy they clearly responded to within 24 hours of a stirring win is a very dangerous move and will require some top draw man management.

taniwharugby

@mariner4life tbf, we don't know what has gone on to spark this...maybe Fozzie, maybe Cane, maybe Ryan's influence, maybe the SA players read all the articles saying how shit we were and awesome they were, who knows, guess we will never know.

All we do know is they have responded to all the shit as best they could, but why didn't they last week, been alot of shit flying thier way before that.

Chris

The Press conference may also be a we have faith in Foster moment and we are keeping him.Putting all the talk about sacking him to bed for awhile.

Frank

I still hope he is gone.
Players might be a bit bummed, but you have to have the best coaches available.
Jason Ryan has made a huge difference - imo

Crucial

@Frank said in Foster:

I still hope he is gone.
Players might be a bit bummed, but you have to have the best coaches available.
Jason Ryan has made a huge difference - imo

And there’s nothing to stop him continuing to do so.
As far as we know it was also Foster that wanted the change from Plumtree.

Rancid Schnitzel

Changes nothing IMHO. It simply highlights the fact that we have the necessary cattle and that this epic shitshow can be turned around in record time with the right people in charge.

nostrildamus

@Crucial said in Foster:

@Frank said in Foster:

I still hope he is gone.
Players might be a bit bummed, but you have to have the best coaches available.
Jason Ryan has made a huge difference - imo

And there’s nothing to stop him continuing to do so.
As far as we know it was also Foster that wanted the change from Plumtree.

I doubt he wanted too as he gave this big Plumtree is a great coach speech as he sacked him...

Crucial

@nostrildamus said in Foster:

@Crucial said in Foster:

@Frank said in Foster:

I still hope he is gone.
Players might be a bit bummed, but you have to have the best coaches available.
Jason Ryan has made a huge difference - imo

And there’s nothing to stop him continuing to do so.
As far as we know it was also Foster that wanted the change from Plumtree.

I doubt he wanted too as he gave this big Plumtree is a great coach speech as he sacked him...

I don’t know what went down and I guess we won’t until Fosters best selling book but giving a good reference so as not to destroy a career isn’t unusual

Crucial

I think this may well be an attempt by Robinson to stop press speculation and drum beating by extending Fosters reign for the rest of the TRC.
God forbid, if we lose the Bled, there’s no argument that he’s gone and we rebuild on the EOYT

Tim

@Crucial said in Foster:

God forbid, if we lose the Bled, there’s no argument that he’s gone and we rebuild on the EOYT

Fortunately for him, Australia may be down to their B team by then.

The Silver Fern

Foster, Robertson etc