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  • O Old Samurai Jack

    Surely Foster has to go. Once the glow of this performance wears off, we will be back in the shite soon enough if he stays.

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    nostrildamus
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    #2391

    Plusses
    Brought back SF when no one else wanted him
    seemed to pay off yesterday

    Question
    Chose Jason Ryan (or forced on him?)

    Negatives
    Seemed reluctant to bring back ST, EdG
    Many positional swaps, slow to select new players, try out other 6s or new props
    Thought Jordie would be a good winger
    Not playing Reece much who has been arguably our best winger
    Chose injury plagued Sam Cane as captain and arguably not best in his position
    General games slide apart from yesterday
    Playing DH against big physical sides until his confidence gone (exception: yesterday)
    Questionable kicking tactics
    Often bad bench timing
    Very slow to react to changing opponent tactics

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      Timing would be fucking awful for team morale too. They all have to travel back together with a guy they have clearly thrown support behind. Will have some players worried about their own job too.
      I don’t mind a change but think it is important to manage it well, possibly with an agreed transition.

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      • CrucialC Crucial

        Timing would be fucking awful for team morale too. They all have to travel back together with a guy they have clearly thrown support behind. Will have some players worried about their own job too.
        I don’t mind a change but think it is important to manage it well, possibly with an agreed transition.

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        @Crucial said in Foster:

        Timing would be fucking awful for team morale too. They all have to travel back together with a guy they have clearly thrown support behind. Will have some players worried about their own job too.
        I don’t mind a change but think it is important to manage it well, possibly with an agreed transition.

        I came to post exactly this.

        Sacking a guy they clearly responded to within 24 hours of a stirring win is a very dangerous move and will require some top draw man management.

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        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

          @Crucial said in Foster:

          Timing would be fucking awful for team morale too. They all have to travel back together with a guy they have clearly thrown support behind. Will have some players worried about their own job too.
          I don’t mind a change but think it is important to manage it well, possibly with an agreed transition.

          I came to post exactly this.

          Sacking a guy they clearly responded to within 24 hours of a stirring win is a very dangerous move and will require some top draw man management.

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          #2394

          @mariner4life tbf, we don't know what has gone on to spark this...maybe Fozzie, maybe Cane, maybe Ryan's influence, maybe the SA players read all the articles saying how shit we were and awesome they were, who knows, guess we will never know.

          All we do know is they have responded to all the shit as best they could, but why didn't they last week, been alot of shit flying thier way before that.

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            The Press conference may also be a we have faith in Foster moment and we are keeping him.Putting all the talk about sacking him to bed for awhile.

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              #2396

              I still hope he is gone.
              Players might be a bit bummed, but you have to have the best coaches available.
              Jason Ryan has made a huge difference - imo

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              • FrankF Frank

                I still hope he is gone.
                Players might be a bit bummed, but you have to have the best coaches available.
                Jason Ryan has made a huge difference - imo

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                @Frank said in Foster:

                I still hope he is gone.
                Players might be a bit bummed, but you have to have the best coaches available.
                Jason Ryan has made a huge difference - imo

                And there’s nothing to stop him continuing to do so.
                As far as we know it was also Foster that wanted the change from Plumtree.

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                  Rancid Schnitzel
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                  Changes nothing IMHO. It simply highlights the fact that we have the necessary cattle and that this epic shitshow can be turned around in record time with the right people in charge.

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                  • CrucialC Crucial

                    @Frank said in Foster:

                    I still hope he is gone.
                    Players might be a bit bummed, but you have to have the best coaches available.
                    Jason Ryan has made a huge difference - imo

                    And there’s nothing to stop him continuing to do so.
                    As far as we know it was also Foster that wanted the change from Plumtree.

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                    nostrildamus
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                    @Crucial said in Foster:

                    @Frank said in Foster:

                    I still hope he is gone.
                    Players might be a bit bummed, but you have to have the best coaches available.
                    Jason Ryan has made a huge difference - imo

                    And there’s nothing to stop him continuing to do so.
                    As far as we know it was also Foster that wanted the change from Plumtree.

                    I doubt he wanted too as he gave this big Plumtree is a great coach speech as he sacked him...

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                    • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                      @Crucial said in Foster:

                      @Frank said in Foster:

                      I still hope he is gone.
                      Players might be a bit bummed, but you have to have the best coaches available.
                      Jason Ryan has made a huge difference - imo

                      And there’s nothing to stop him continuing to do so.
                      As far as we know it was also Foster that wanted the change from Plumtree.

                      I doubt he wanted too as he gave this big Plumtree is a great coach speech as he sacked him...

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                      @nostrildamus said in Foster:

                      @Crucial said in Foster:

                      @Frank said in Foster:

                      I still hope he is gone.
                      Players might be a bit bummed, but you have to have the best coaches available.
                      Jason Ryan has made a huge difference - imo

                      And there’s nothing to stop him continuing to do so.
                      As far as we know it was also Foster that wanted the change from Plumtree.

                      I doubt he wanted too as he gave this big Plumtree is a great coach speech as he sacked him...

                      I don’t know what went down and I guess we won’t until Fosters best selling book but giving a good reference so as not to destroy a career isn’t unusual

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                        #2401

                        I think this may well be an attempt by Robinson to stop press speculation and drum beating by extending Fosters reign for the rest of the TRC.
                        God forbid, if we lose the Bled, there’s no argument that he’s gone and we rebuild on the EOYT

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                        • CrucialC Crucial

                          I think this may well be an attempt by Robinson to stop press speculation and drum beating by extending Fosters reign for the rest of the TRC.
                          God forbid, if we lose the Bled, there’s no argument that he’s gone and we rebuild on the EOYT

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                          @Crucial said in Foster:

                          God forbid, if we lose the Bled, there’s no argument that he’s gone and we rebuild on the EOYT

                          Fortunately for him, Australia may be down to their B team by then.

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                            #2403

                            I don't know why you'd call a press conference if you are keeping Foster.

                            Then again this is Robinson

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                            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                              I don't know why you'd call a press conference if you are keeping Foster.

                              Then again this is Robinson

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                              #2404

                              @KiwiMurph said in Foster:

                              I don't know why you'd call a press conference if you are keeping Foster.

                              Then again this is Robinson

                              He made a hash of the PR post Ireland. Maybe he’s trying a different approach

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                              • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                I don't know why you'd call a press conference if you are keeping Foster.

                                Then again this is Robinson

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                                taniwharugby
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                                #2405

                                @KiwiMurph following Labour's lead: announcement about an announcement of nothing

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                                • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                  I don't know why you'd call a press conference if you are keeping Foster.

                                  Then again this is Robinson

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                                  @KiwiMurph said in Foster:

                                  I don't know why you'd call a press conference if you are keeping Foster.

                                  Then again this is Robinson

                                  Ah, so you think he might be announcing an extension of his contract up until the end of the 2027 Webb Ellice Trophy on the back of this win?

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                                    #2407

                                    announceing the new coache to replace mooar and/or mcleod

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                                      #2408

                                      If it is to announce the removal of Foster, I wonder if it was already anticipated in the camp. And maybe the All Blacks played their 'massive game for the coach just sacked' one game early.

                                      I suppose we'll soon find out either way...

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                                        https://twitter.com/Gungehammer/status/1558604825486495744

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                                        • CrucialC Crucial

                                          Not a great look for NZR though. I doubt Foster was lying when asked if he would still be coach in two weeks with his “I don’t know” comment. That shows that he wasn’t set a clear target to keep his job and NZR have been clearly working behind the scenes on a preset decision without telling him.

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                                          @Crucial said in Foster:

                                          Not a great look for NZR though. I doubt Foster was lying when asked if he would still be coach in two weeks with his “I don’t know” comment. That shows that he wasn’t set a clear target to keep his job and NZR have been clearly working behind the scenes on a preset decision without telling him.

                                          It wouldn't surprise me that NZR follow up a win at Ellis Park by sacking the coach. That's the level of ineptitude I expect.

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