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  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

    @junior said in Foster:

    experienced ALB/JG comb

    not sure there is a more overrated player on this forum than Jack Goodhue. He's played 19 tests and he's "experienced" now.

    He hasn't played a test in coming up two years but should be the starting centre.

    He's so big and powerful, yet is only 6'2 and 100 kegs

    The wider social media universe is way worse for it, but to read some posts you would think we have prime Frank Bunce jut wasting away in the squad

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    @mariner4life said in Foster:

    @junior said in Foster:

    experienced ALB/JG comb

    not sure there is a more overrated player on this forum than Jack Goodhue. He's played 19 tests and he's "experienced" now.

    He hasn't played a test in coming up two years but should be the starting centre.

    He's so big and powerful, yet is only 6'2 and 100 kegs

    The wider social media universe is way worse for it, but to read some posts you would think we have prime Frank Bunce jut wasting away in the squad

    That’s as big as a prime Umaga/Ieremia to be fair….or in the modern game Henshaw/De Allende give or take.

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    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

      @junior said in Foster:

      experienced ALB/JG comb

      not sure there is a more overrated player on this forum than Jack Goodhue. He's played 19 tests and he's "experienced" now.

      He hasn't played a test in coming up two years but should be the starting centre.

      He's so big and powerful, yet is only 6'2 and 100 kegs

      The wider social media universe is way worse for it, but to read some posts you would think we have prime Frank Bunce jut wasting away in the squad

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      @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:

      @junior said in Foster:

      experienced ALB/JG comb

      not sure there is a more overrated player on this forum than Jack Goodhue. He's played 19 tests and he's "experienced" now.

      He hasn't played a test in coming up two years but should be the starting centre.

      He's so big and powerful, yet is only 6'2 and 100 kegs

      The wider social media universe is way worse for it, but to read some posts you would think we have prime Frank Bunce jut wasting away in the squad

      This is the best endorsement of Goodhue you can get.

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      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

        @junior said in Foster:

        experienced ALB/JG comb

        not sure there is a more overrated player on this forum than Jack Goodhue. He's played 19 tests and he's "experienced" now.

        He hasn't played a test in coming up two years but should be the starting centre.

        He's so big and powerful, yet is only 6'2 and 100 kegs

        The wider social media universe is way worse for it, but to read some posts you would think we have prime Frank Bunce jut wasting away in the squad

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        @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:

        @junior said in Foster:

        experienced ALB/JG comb

        not sure there is a more overrated player on this forum than Jack Goodhue. He's played 19 tests and he's "experienced" now.

        He hasn't played a test in coming up two years but should be the starting centre.

        He's so big and powerful, yet is only 6'2 and 100 kegs

        The wider social media universe is way worse for it, but to read some posts you would think we have prime Frank Bunce jut wasting away in the squad

        THANK YOU!

        Thought i was going mad, i'll also add those 19 test have been over 6 years...thats how injury prone he is

        look at someone like ben smith, forgetting his first test, he didn't break into the AB properly until 2012 and last played in 2019....so in those 7 years he played 83 tests

        yes, when he's fit he's in the conversation but surely we need to stop hanging our hopes on something so unpredictable and jack goodhue being able to string several games together for the AB's

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        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

          @junior said in Foster:

          experienced ALB/JG comb

          not sure there is a more overrated player on this forum than Jack Goodhue. He's played 19 tests and he's "experienced" now.

          He hasn't played a test in coming up two years but should be the starting centre.

          He's so big and powerful, yet is only 6'2 and 100 kegs

          The wider social media universe is way worse for it, but to read some posts you would think we have prime Frank Bunce jut wasting away in the squad

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          @mariner4life dunno if I'd say over rated, more unfulfilled, due to his injuries and lack of game time.

          Pre-Irish tour his name kept popping up due to his 'experience' but <20 tests is not massively experienced, sure he is a smarter, but limited player and probably plays more like a veteran, but doesnt detract form the fact he isnt.

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          • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

            @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:

            @junior said in Foster:

            experienced ALB/JG comb

            not sure there is a more overrated player on this forum than Jack Goodhue. He's played 19 tests and he's "experienced" now.

            He hasn't played a test in coming up two years but should be the starting centre.

            He's so big and powerful, yet is only 6'2 and 100 kegs

            The wider social media universe is way worse for it, but to read some posts you would think we have prime Frank Bunce jut wasting away in the squad

            THANK YOU!

            Thought i was going mad, i'll also add those 19 test have been over 6 years...thats how injury prone he is

            look at someone like ben smith, forgetting his first test, he didn't break into the AB properly until 2012 and last played in 2019....so in those 7 years he played 83 tests

            yes, when he's fit he's in the conversation but surely we need to stop hanging our hopes on something so unpredictable and jack goodhue being able to string several games together for the AB's

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            @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2022:

            @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:

            @junior said in Foster:

            experienced ALB/JG comb

            not sure there is a more overrated player on this forum than Jack Goodhue. He's played 19 tests and he's "experienced" now.

            He hasn't played a test in coming up two years but should be the starting centre.

            He's so big and powerful, yet is only 6'2 and 100 kegs

            The wider social media universe is way worse for it, but to read some posts you would think we have prime Frank Bunce jut wasting away in the squad

            THANK YOU!

            Thought i was going mad, i'll also add those 19 test have been over 6 years...thats how injury prone he is

            look at someone like ben smith, forgetting his first test, he didn't break into the AB properly until 2012 and last played in 2019....so in those 7 years he played 83 tests

            yes, when he's fit he's in the conversation but surely we need to stop hanging our hopes on something so unpredictable and jack goodhue being able to string several games together for the AB's

            I don't think anyone has referred to him as the second coming but when looking at 13s over the past few years he's, IMHO, easily been the best. But ultimately I agree that there's a good chance he won't even be an option going forward. But a man can dream. All I know is that he's miles better than Rieko, who is one of the world's best wingers but but a farking average 13.

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            • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

              @junior said in Foster:

              experienced ALB/JG comb

              not sure there is a more overrated player on this forum than Jack Goodhue. He's played 19 tests and he's "experienced" now.

              He hasn't played a test in coming up two years but should be the starting centre.

              He's so big and powerful, yet is only 6'2 and 100 kegs

              The wider social media universe is way worse for it, but to read some posts you would think we have prime Frank Bunce jut wasting away in the squad

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              @mariner4life tribalism

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              • MN5M MN5

                @Dan54 said in Foster:

                @MN5 said in Foster:

                @dogmeat said in Foster:

                So midfield is a real concern.

                We need to try Havili/Goodhue.

                No No we need ALB back with Rieko

                No with Goodhue

                Let's try Tupaea/ALB or Tupaea/Goodhue

                Nah Jordie /Goodhue is the answer

                Shit this coaching lark is tougker than I thought .... 🙂

                What’s George Moala up to ?

                Frizell and Reece got selected so no reason he can’t as well.

                Hell if you worried about Reece and Frizell you must of been spewing when Eric Rush as captaing our 7s!!!

                You’ve lost me

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                @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

                @Dan54 said in Foster:

                @MN5 said in Foster:

                @dogmeat said in Foster:

                So midfield is a real concern.

                We need to try Havili/Goodhue.

                No No we need ALB back with Rieko

                No with Goodhue

                Let's try Tupaea/ALB or Tupaea/Goodhue

                Nah Jordie /Goodhue is the answer

                Shit this coaching lark is tougker than I thought .... 🙂

                What’s George Moala up to ?

                Frizell and Reece got selected so no reason he can’t as well.

                Hell if you worried about Reece and Frizell you must of been spewing when Eric Rush as captaing our 7s!!!

                You’ve lost me

                Ok if you don't know, I will leave it, like all things in past and I know he also regrets it anyway.

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                  @mariner4life tribalism

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                  @dogmeat

                  Why have I never noticed before that the Crusaders have "Cock Ram" on their jerseys
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                  • CrucialC Crucial

                    @dogmeat

                    Why have I never noticed before that the Crusaders have "Cock Ram" on their jerseys
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                    @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                    @dogmeat

                    Why have I never noticed before that the Crusaders have "Cock Ram" on their jerseys
                    alt text

                    Well they’ve had the cockram symbol for a few years now #docking

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                    • dogmeatD dogmeat

                      @mariner4life tribalism

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                      @dogmeat said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @mariner4life tribalism

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                      Not really. I'm a Canes supporter who hasn't been in the South Island since the age of 5. Unlike some people here I don't give a fůck what Super team someone plays for. Ultimately it's about the Allblacks. And on that front all I can say is that even with his apparent lack of experience and enormous size, Goodhue is a better option at 13 than Rieko.

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                      • Rancid SchnitzelR Rancid Schnitzel

                        @dogmeat said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @mariner4life tribalism

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                        Not really. I'm a Canes supporter who hasn't been in the South Island since the age of 5. Unlike some people here I don't give a fůck what Super team someone plays for. Ultimately it's about the Allblacks. And on that front all I can say is that even with his apparent lack of experience and enormous size, Goodhue is a better option at 13 than Rieko.

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                        @Rancid-Schnitzel said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @dogmeat said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @mariner4life tribalism

                        88531adf-491e-4643-9e33-6eb9d8f7843c-image.png

                        Not really. I'm a Canes supporter who hasn't been in the South Island since the age of 5. Unlike some people here I don't give a fůck what Super team someone plays for. Ultimately it's about the Allblacks. And on that front all I can say is that even with his apparent lack of experience and enormous size, Goodhue is a better option at 13 than Rieko.

                        When he is fit, which isn't often these past few years, he's looked very, very slow at 13. And that's at Super Rugby level. That Bok centre would make him his bitch at Test level.

                        Pretty much only in the picture as a 12 now.

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                          Rieko Ioane: Has an absolute blinder against the best defence in the world.

                          Internet Rando: I keep saying he's not a centre's asshole!

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                          • TimT Tim

                            Rieko Ioane: Has an absolute blinder against the best defence in the world.

                            Internet Rando: I keep saying he's not a centre's asshole!

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                            @Tim said in All Blacks 2022:

                            Rieko Ioane: Has an absolute blinder against the best defence in the world.

                            Internet Rando: I keep saying he's not a centre's asshole!

                            Yeah, motm huh, who needs 'em

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                            • TimT Tim

                              Rieko Ioane: Has an absolute blinder against the best defence in the world.

                              Internet Rando: I keep saying he's not a centre's asshole!

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                              @Tim said in All Blacks 2022:

                              Rieko Ioane: Has an absolute blinder against the best defence in the world.

                              Internet Rando: I keep saying he's not a centre's asshole!

                              Rieko and Jordan looks dangerous with a competent forward pack and a functioning backline. Funny that.

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                                Tribalism

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                                • Rancid SchnitzelR Rancid Schnitzel

                                  Tribalism

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                                  @Rancid-Schnitzel anyone seen anything else on the super team changing from Adidas?

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                                  • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                                    @Rancid-Schnitzel anyone seen anything else on the super team changing from Adidas?

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                                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                      @pakman said in Foster:

                                      Would like to see Havili/Goodhue get some time with current game plan.

                                      Goodhue doesn't have the speed to be effective at centre. He was never quick anyway but looks slower after the injuries. 2nd 5 would be his position.

                                      If you look at the stats from the Jo'burg test, Havili attempted 6 tackles and missed 3 of them. We can all agree that he looked much better on attack but defence is still an issue.

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                                      @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @pakman said in Foster:

                                      Would like to see Havili/Goodhue get some time with current game plan.

                                      Goodhue doesn't have the speed to be effective at centre. He was never quick anyway but looks slower after the injuries. 2nd 5 would be his position.

                                      If you look at the stats from the Jo'burg test, Havili attempted 6 tackles and missed 3 of them. We can all agree that he looked much better on attack but defence is still an issue.

                                      I think defence is an issue across the board. Too often players are slow to react and are then finding themselves out of position.

                                      There were some poor 1-on-1 front on missed tackles no doubt.

                                      One shining light in our defence though was we weren’t passive.

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                                      • Rancid SchnitzelR Rancid Schnitzel

                                        Tribalism

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                                        @Rancid-Schnitzel said the guy wanting a fullback from his team to play 12.

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                                        • KirwanK Kirwan

                                          @Rancid-Schnitzel said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @dogmeat said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @mariner4life tribalism

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                                          Not really. I'm a Canes supporter who hasn't been in the South Island since the age of 5. Unlike some people here I don't give a fůck what Super team someone plays for. Ultimately it's about the Allblacks. And on that front all I can say is that even with his apparent lack of experience and enormous size, Goodhue is a better option at 13 than Rieko.

                                          When he is fit, which isn't often these past few years, he's looked very, very slow at 13. And that's at Super Rugby level. That Bok centre would make him his bitch at Test level.

                                          Pretty much only in the picture as a 12 now.

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                                          @Kirwan not that I am advocating him, but I find it interesting in broken play Goodhue is often on the wing, I think it assists with organising the defence inside but also because he is good at cleaning and securing the ball at rucks it helps having him in the wider channels here, despite his pace (lack of)

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