All Blacks 2022
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:
experienced ALB/JG comb
not sure there is a more overrated player on this forum than Jack Goodhue. He's played 19 tests and he's "experienced" now.
He hasn't played a test in coming up two years but should be the starting centre.
He's so big and powerful, yet is only 6'2 and 100 kegs
The wider social media universe is way worse for it, but to read some posts you would think we have prime Frank Bunce jut wasting away in the squad
THANK YOU!
Thought i was going mad, i'll also add those 19 test have been over 6 years...thats how injury prone he is
look at someone like ben smith, forgetting his first test, he didn't break into the AB properly until 2012 and last played in 2019....so in those 7 years he played 83 tests
yes, when he's fit he's in the conversation but surely we need to stop hanging our hopes on something so unpredictable and jack goodhue being able to string several games together for the AB's
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2022:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:
experienced ALB/JG comb
not sure there is a more overrated player on this forum than Jack Goodhue. He's played 19 tests and he's "experienced" now.
He hasn't played a test in coming up two years but should be the starting centre.
He's so big and powerful, yet is only 6'2 and 100 kegs
The wider social media universe is way worse for it, but to read some posts you would think we have prime Frank Bunce jut wasting away in the squad
THANK YOU!
Thought i was going mad, i'll also add those 19 test have been over 6 years...thats how injury prone he is
look at someone like ben smith, forgetting his first test, he didn't break into the AB properly until 2012 and last played in 2019....so in those 7 years he played 83 tests
yes, when he's fit he's in the conversation but surely we need to stop hanging our hopes on something so unpredictable and jack goodhue being able to string several games together for the AB's
I don't think anyone has referred to him as the second coming but when looking at 13s over the past few years he's, IMHO, easily been the best. But ultimately I agree that there's a good chance he won't even be an option going forward. But a man can dream. All I know is that he's miles better than Rieko, who is one of the world's best wingers but but a farking average 13.
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experienced ALB/JG comb
not sure there is a more overrated player on this forum than Jack Goodhue. He's played 19 tests and he's "experienced" now.
He hasn't played a test in coming up two years but should be the starting centre.
He's so big and powerful, yet is only 6'2 and 100 kegs
The wider social media universe is way worse for it, but to read some posts you would think we have prime Frank Bunce jut wasting away in the squad
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So midfield is a real concern.
We need to try Havili/Goodhue.
No No we need ALB back with Rieko
No with Goodhue
Let's try Tupaea/ALB or Tupaea/Goodhue
Nah Jordie /Goodhue is the answer
Shit this coaching lark is tougker than I thought ....
What’s George Moala up to ?
Frizell and Reece got selected so no reason he can’t as well.
Hell if you worried about Reece and Frizell you must of been spewing when Eric Rush as captaing our 7s!!!
You’ve lost me
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:
So midfield is a real concern.
We need to try Havili/Goodhue.
No No we need ALB back with Rieko
No with Goodhue
Let's try Tupaea/ALB or Tupaea/Goodhue
Nah Jordie /Goodhue is the answer
Shit this coaching lark is tougker than I thought ....
What’s George Moala up to ?
Frizell and Reece got selected so no reason he can’t as well.
Hell if you worried about Reece and Frizell you must of been spewing when Eric Rush as captaing our 7s!!!
You’ve lost me
Ok if you don't know, I will leave it, like all things in past and I know he also regrets it anyway.
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@mariner4life tribalism
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Why have I never noticed before that the Crusaders have "Cock Ram" on their jerseys
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@mariner4life tribalism
@dogmeat said in All Blacks 2022:
@mariner4life tribalism
Not really. I'm a Canes supporter who hasn't been in the South Island since the age of 5. Unlike some people here I don't give a fůck what Super team someone plays for. Ultimately it's about the Allblacks. And on that front all I can say is that even with his apparent lack of experience and enormous size, Goodhue is a better option at 13 than Rieko.
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@dogmeat said in All Blacks 2022:
@mariner4life tribalism
Not really. I'm a Canes supporter who hasn't been in the South Island since the age of 5. Unlike some people here I don't give a fůck what Super team someone plays for. Ultimately it's about the Allblacks. And on that front all I can say is that even with his apparent lack of experience and enormous size, Goodhue is a better option at 13 than Rieko.
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in All Blacks 2022:
@dogmeat said in All Blacks 2022:
@mariner4life tribalism
Not really. I'm a Canes supporter who hasn't been in the South Island since the age of 5. Unlike some people here I don't give a fůck what Super team someone plays for. Ultimately it's about the Allblacks. And on that front all I can say is that even with his apparent lack of experience and enormous size, Goodhue is a better option at 13 than Rieko.
When he is fit, which isn't often these past few years, he's looked very, very slow at 13. And that's at Super Rugby level. That Bok centre would make him his bitch at Test level.
Pretty much only in the picture as a 12 now.
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Rieko Ioane: Has an absolute blinder against the best defence in the world.
Internet Rando: I keep saying he's not a centre's asshole!
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Rieko Ioane: Has an absolute blinder against the best defence in the world.
Internet Rando: I keep saying he's not a centre's asshole!
@Tim said in All Blacks 2022:
Rieko Ioane: Has an absolute blinder against the best defence in the world.
Internet Rando: I keep saying he's not a centre's asshole!
Rieko and Jordan looks dangerous with a competent forward pack and a functioning backline. Funny that.
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Tribalism
@Rancid-Schnitzel anyone seen anything else on the super team changing from Adidas?
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@Rancid-Schnitzel anyone seen anything else on the super team changing from Adidas?
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Would like to see Havili/Goodhue get some time with current game plan.
Goodhue doesn't have the speed to be effective at centre. He was never quick anyway but looks slower after the injuries. 2nd 5 would be his position.
If you look at the stats from the Jo'burg test, Havili attempted 6 tackles and missed 3 of them. We can all agree that he looked much better on attack but defence is still an issue.
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:
Would like to see Havili/Goodhue get some time with current game plan.
Goodhue doesn't have the speed to be effective at centre. He was never quick anyway but looks slower after the injuries. 2nd 5 would be his position.
If you look at the stats from the Jo'burg test, Havili attempted 6 tackles and missed 3 of them. We can all agree that he looked much better on attack but defence is still an issue.
I think defence is an issue across the board. Too often players are slow to react and are then finding themselves out of position.
There were some poor 1-on-1 front on missed tackles no doubt.
One shining light in our defence though was we weren’t passive.
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Tribalism
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in All Blacks 2022:
@dogmeat said in All Blacks 2022:
@mariner4life tribalism
Not really. I'm a Canes supporter who hasn't been in the South Island since the age of 5. Unlike some people here I don't give a fůck what Super team someone plays for. Ultimately it's about the Allblacks. And on that front all I can say is that even with his apparent lack of experience and enormous size, Goodhue is a better option at 13 than Rieko.
When he is fit, which isn't often these past few years, he's looked very, very slow at 13. And that's at Super Rugby level. That Bok centre would make him his bitch at Test level.
Pretty much only in the picture as a 12 now.
@Kirwan not that I am advocating him, but I find it interesting in broken play Goodhue is often on the wing, I think it assists with organising the defence inside but also because he is good at cleaning and securing the ball at rucks it helps having him in the wider channels here, despite his pace (lack of)
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said the guy wanting a fullback from his team to play 12.
@Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said the guy wanting a fullback from his team to play 12.
Yeah ok. It's got nothing to do with the fact that he played at 12 for the NZ U20 and won player of the year in that position for Canterbury. Ffs I'm on record saying I wish he'd stayed down south and retained that partnership with Goodhue for the Crusaders.
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@Kirwan not that I am advocating him, but I find it interesting in broken play Goodhue is often on the wing, I think it assists with organising the defence inside but also because he is good at cleaning and securing the ball at rucks it helps having him in the wider channels here, despite his pace (lack of)
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:
@Kirwan not that I am advocating him, but I find it interesting in broken play Goodhue is often on the wing, I think it assists with organising the defence inside but also because he is good at cleaning and securing the ball at rucks it helps having him in the wider channels here, despite his pace.
He's a good player, but I'd have him closer in. At Test level he'd just get exposed IMO. Pace is a big reason ALB and RI are so useful at 13.
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@Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said the guy wanting a fullback from his team to play 12.
Yeah ok. It's got nothing to do with the fact that he played at 12 for the NZ U20 and won player of the year in that position for Canterbury. Ffs I'm on record saying I wish he'd stayed down south and retained that partnership with Goodhue for the Crusaders.
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in All Blacks 2022:
@Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said the guy wanting a fullback from his team to play 12.
Yeah ok. It's got nothing to do with the fact that he played at 12 for the NZ U20 and won player of the year in that position for Canterbury. Ffs I'm on record saying I wish he'd stayed down south and retained that partnership with Goodhue for the Crusaders.
How many years ago was that? Probably the same time period that Sotutu was still in the backs.
JB is not a serious 12 option unless he plays there at Super Rugby level every week.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in All Blacks 2022:
@Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said the guy wanting a fullback from his team to play 12.
Yeah ok. It's got nothing to do with the fact that he played at 12 for the NZ U20 and won player of the year in that position for Canterbury. Ffs I'm on record saying I wish he'd stayed down south and retained that partnership with Goodhue for the Crusaders.
How many years ago was that? Probably the same time period that Sotutu was still in the backs.
JB is not a serious 12 option unless he plays there at Super Rugby level every week.
@Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in All Blacks 2022:
@Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said the guy wanting a fullback from his team to play 12.
Yeah ok. It's got nothing to do with the fact that he played at 12 for the NZ U20 and won player of the year in that position for Canterbury. Ffs I'm on record saying I wish he'd stayed down south and retained that partnership with Goodhue for the Crusaders.
How many years ago was that? Probably the same time period that Sotutu was still in the backs.
JB is not a serious 12 option unless he plays there at Super Rugby level every week.
Which I why I wanted him to stay down south. But yeah, it's all about da tribalism.
