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All Blacks v Pumas 1

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    I think we started with Lomax and De Groot against the Boks because we saw they had selected their weaker scrummaging props to start. So, if the Argies start with their best scrummaging front row, I think Newell and Bower get the start.

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      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:

      @Victor-Meldrew There's also the option to bring Perofeta on at 15.

      That's what I'd plan to do.

      I don't really hold with the idea of planned substitution of your first five - but, you need cover in case he gets hurt (or is having an absolute mare).

      I'd like to see some tests where Beaudy and Richie aren't paired, because they don't seem to have quite worked out as hoped. I think Fozzie has been playing a game of trying to keep both of them happy with game time, possibly to the detriment of the team.

      So Perofeta (or DMac) on the bench.

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      @Chris-B said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:

      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:

      @Victor-Meldrew There's also the option to bring Perofeta on at 15.

      That's what I'd plan to do.

      I don't really hold with the idea of planned substitution of your first five - but, you need cover in case he gets hurt (or is having an absolute mare).

      I'd like to see some tests where Beaudy and Richie aren't paired, because they don't seem to have quite worked out as hoped. I think Fozzie has been playing a game of trying to keep both of them happy with game time, possibly to the detriment of the team.

      So Perofeta (or DMac) on the bench.

      It's been an ongoing frustration that they keep pairing Beauden and Mo'unga together when it clearly hasn't been working. Even if both players are buying into the idea off the pitch, in the heat of a test we get a jumbled approach and neither really take control of the game. Mo'unga definitely benefited from being in charge last test and played a lot better as a result.

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        Kick off is 745? What the actual fuck?

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          Kick off is 745? What the actual fuck?

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          @Machpants

          I guess it's about how much time there is between the two Tests.

          The Aussie Test is at 5:30pm. I presume that would finish around 7:15ish then the broadcasters would want some time in between

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            @Machpants

            I guess it's about how much time there is between the two Tests.

            The Aussie Test is at 5:30pm. I presume that would finish around 7:15ish then the broadcasters would want some time in between

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            @Duluth Also remember that the Aussie tests are in Adelaide. South Australia has a weird time zone, being half an hour (not an hour) behind NSW, Queensland etc.

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            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

              @Victor-Meldrew There's also the option to bring Perofeta on at 15.

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              @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:

              @Victor-Meldrew There's also the option to bring Perofeta on at 15.

              Yeah, I thought that, but we have enough cover there already with Giraffe & Jordan and I suspect Foster sees Perofeta as the 3rd 10.

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              • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:

                @Frank said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:

                Would love to see how Perofeta goes at 10 after Mounga has played the first 60 or so(assuming we can afford to bring him on)

                Think he'll be on the bench if BB is ruled out but Ritche may well play the full 80 depending on how the game pans out.

                Just throwing it out there, but could we see the same starting backline as SA 2, but on the bench have a midfielder (QT or RTS) plus a winger (eg Reece).

                Plan to play Mo’unga for 80 and better utilise the options on the bench. If he gets crook we run with either Jordie or Havili at 10.

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                @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:

                @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:

                @Frank said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:

                Would love to see how Perofeta goes at 10 after Mounga has played the first 60 or so(assuming we can afford to bring him on)

                Think he'll be on the bench if BB is ruled out but Ritche may well play the full 80 depending on how the game pans out.

                Just throwing it out there, but could we see the same starting backline as SA 2, but on the bench have a midfielder (QT or RTS) plus a winger (eg Reece).

                Plan to play Mo’unga for 80 and better utilise the options on the bench. If he gets crook we run with either Jordie or Havili at 10.

                I think they want to win this one well and go for experience, so suspect QT on the bench instead of RTS. Foster can then give some of the newbies game time in Pumas 2.

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                • StargazerS Stargazer

                  @Duluth Also remember that the Aussie tests are in Adelaide. South Australia has a weird time zone, being half an hour (not an hour) behind NSW, Queensland etc.

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                  @Stargazer said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:

                  @Duluth Also remember that the Aussie tests are in Adelaide. South Australia has a weird time zone, being half an hour (not an hour) behind NSW, Queensland etc.

                  😉

                  Quite historic, can’t recall a test match in Adelaide

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                    @Stargazer said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:

                    @Duluth Also remember that the Aussie tests are in Adelaide. South Australia has a weird time zone, being half an hour (not an hour) behind NSW, Queensland etc.

                    😉

                    Quite historic, can’t recall a test match in Adelaide

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                    @ACT-Crusader The 2003 RWC had games at Adelaide Oval, including a Wallaby pool game.

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                      @ACT-Crusader @Bovidae

                      Aus v Nam 142-0 RWC 2003.

                      Also Ire v Arg RWC 2003. Was a 1 pointer IIRC. Think the Paddies got up. Boring game.

                      Also Wobs v Pac Islanders. 2004 I think. Actually went to that game. IIRC both Sivivati and Lauaki scored in the SW just in front of where I was sitting. (Will have to check the actual scorers.) Made some comment about getting them into black jerseys which I recall was greeted like a cup of cold sick ...

                      Went to Aus A v Fiji one year too.

                      But can't recall any other tests there.

                      Edit: was right about Lauaki. Other try scorer was Sireli Bobo (not Sivi)

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                        @ACT-Crusader @Bovidae

                        Aus v Nam 142-0 RWC 2003.

                        Also Ire v Arg RWC 2003. Was a 1 pointer IIRC. Think the Paddies got up. Boring game.

                        Also Wobs v Pac Islanders. 2004 I think. Actually went to that game. IIRC both Sivivati and Lauaki scored in the SW just in front of where I was sitting. (Will have to check the actual scorers.) Made some comment about getting them into black jerseys which I recall was greeted like a cup of cold sick ...

                        Went to Aus A v Fiji one year too.

                        But can't recall any other tests there.

                        Edit: was right about Lauaki. Other try scorer was Sireli Bobo (not Sivi)

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                        @booboo cheers.

                        I guess this is the biggest test match in Adelaide in recent times.

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                          Team named at 11.30am NZT

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                            Team named at 11.30am NZT

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                            @KiwiMurph are you sure?

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                              One possible wild card is Joe’s analysis of Pumas. On past form, a specific selection to probe an identified weakness wouldn’t surprise.

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                                @KiwiMurph are you sure?

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                                @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:

                                @KiwiMurph are you sure?

                                Well it is Thursday after all.

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                                  Team named at 11.30am NZT

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                                  @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:

                                  Team named at 11.30am NZT

                                  No wonder the world is going to shit, team's not named at 0600 local, game is not at 1930, or 1905!

                                  https://tenor.com/0Rj6.gif

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                                    Hope to see Reece back in the 23

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                                      Hard to predict what will happen. There's media and some public pressure to pick the same side. Then there's the need try different players/combinations and there's not many Tests until the RWC

                                      Seems like an ideal chance to give Perofeta time from the bench. After Foster singled out Sotutu for praise earlier in the week I expect to see him on the bench.

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                                        Hope to see Reece back in the 23

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                                        @ARHS hope to see Sotutu back in the 23..

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                                          Hope to see Reece back in the 23

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                                          @ARHS said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:

                                          Hope to see Reece back in the 23

                                          Dont think that will happen. Cant carry a third wing. Biggest issue there is cover at 13.

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