Foster, Robertson etc
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@Crazy-Horse said in Foster:
@Machpants said in Foster:
@Machpants said in Foster:
The game plan was better. We played much better. Just need to back up next game to suggest this is real improvement and not a one off response
Both bleds need this level to make me feel maybe a corner has been turned under foster.
First can we beat a wounded Oz after a good performance, playing away?
Then, following that victory, can we keep our standards when complacency will be strong, Eden park hoodoo, just best them last week, etc.3 good performances.
Even GH and Shag said 3 top performances on the trot was very difficult in the pro era. I want to see continued refinement of the game plan and execution
Totally, thus 3 good performances. Enough to win, cos it's only Oz
That was a great performance, so 1 out of 3 good or better, so farI think we are generally in agreement. It's about the style of play as much as the result. A sneaky win playing helter skelter rugby but generally playing poorly will be considered a step back
Last night was helter-skelter. Things stuck but it will be very hard to successfully replicate.
I think we showed a LOT more control last night. Sure, we had them under the pump from the off, but the level of game control was way, way better and the precision in the wet was just off the scale
@Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:
@Crazy-Horse said in Foster:
@Machpants said in Foster:
@Machpants said in Foster:
The game plan was better. We played much better. Just need to back up next game to suggest this is real improvement and not a one off response
Both bleds need this level to make me feel maybe a corner has been turned under foster.
First can we beat a wounded Oz after a good performance, playing away?
Then, following that victory, can we keep our standards when complacency will be strong, Eden park hoodoo, just best them last week, etc.3 good performances.
Even GH and Shag said 3 top performances on the trot was very difficult in the pro era. I want to see continued refinement of the game plan and execution
Totally, thus 3 good performances. Enough to win, cos it's only Oz
That was a great performance, so 1 out of 3 good or better, so farI think we are generally in agreement. It's about the style of play as much as the result. A sneaky win playing helter skelter rugby but generally playing poorly will be considered a step back
Last night was helter-skelter. Things stuck but it will be very hard to successfully replicate.
I think we showed a LOT more control last night. Sure, we had them under the pump from the off, but the level of game control was way, way better and the precision in the wet was just off the scale
Agree with all your say and it was good to see, but the bolded bit sort of hints at what I am trying to get at. I suspect the game plan needs it to be off the scale.
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Yeah. These young players have shown great SR form for quite a while and should have been selected to play before now.
Selecting a retiring prop heading overseas before these new guys didnt make sense.
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@mariner4life I love that people now don’t enjoy all black wins with great performances!!
Weeeaaakkkkk
A lot of people seem less interested in whether the ABs win or not than who the coach is, sadly.
@Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:
@mariner4life I love that people now don’t enjoy all black wins with great performances!!
Weeeaaakkkkk
A lot of people seem less interested in whether the ABs win or not than who the coach is, sadly.
I am pleased they won and am henceforth crediting all wins to Ryan and Schmidt because they have proven records of success. Foster is riding their coattails - jammy bastard.
If the ABs lose at any point, I will also be blaming everything on Foster.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:
@mariner4life I love that people now don’t enjoy all black wins with great performances!!
Weeeaaakkkkk
A lot of people seem less interested in whether the ABs win or not than who the coach is, sadly.
I am pleased they won and am henceforth crediting all wins to Ryan and Schmidt because they have proven records of success. Foster is riding their coattails - jammy bastard.
If the ABs lose at any point, I will also be blaming everything on Foster.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:
@mariner4life I love that people now don’t enjoy all black wins with great performances!!
Weeeaaakkkkk
A lot of people seem less interested in whether the ABs win or not than who the coach is, sadly.
Losing 6 from 8 will do that to you sadly. Particularly if it includes the first ever home losses to the Paddies and Argies. Let's also not forget that alot of people were pissed off that Foster got the job in the first place.
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Foster:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:
@mariner4life I love that people now don’t enjoy all black wins with great performances!!
Weeeaaakkkkk
A lot of people seem less interested in whether the ABs win or not than who the coach is, sadly.
Losing 6 from 8 will do that to you sadly. Particularly if it includes the first ever home losses to the Paddies and Argies. Let's also not forget that alot of people were pissed off that Foster got the job in the first place.
I've been thinking about this. For me it is not the losing. I supported the ABs through other rough patches, including losing five in a row, and never felt like this. I didn't stop supporting Waikato when they had hideous seasons and were dropped to Div 2.
It's the combination of some very, very poor rugby being played, with a coach that seems oblivious to it all -- indeed tells us constantly that they are very close to clicking. Only to dish up another disaster soon afterwards.
Previous AB coaches had bad runs, but had the good grace to be apologetic -- and mostly I could forgive them because they clearly were trying things to turn it around. They didn't just keep doing exactly the same thing that hadn't been working.
It's the slow motion car crash aspect that makes me no longer care.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Foster:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:
@mariner4life I love that people now don’t enjoy all black wins with great performances!!
Weeeaaakkkkk
A lot of people seem less interested in whether the ABs win or not than who the coach is, sadly.
Losing 6 from 8 will do that to you sadly. Particularly if it includes the first ever home losses to the Paddies and Argies. Let's also not forget that alot of people were pissed off that Foster got the job in the first place.
I've been thinking about this. For me it is not the losing. I supported the ABs through other rough patches, including losing five in a row, and never felt like this. I didn't stop supporting Waikato when they had hideous seasons and were dropped to Div 2.
It's the combination of some very, very poor rugby being played, with a coach that seems oblivious to it all -- indeed tells us constantly that they are very close to clicking. Only to dish up another disaster soon afterwards.
Previous AB coaches had bad runs, but had the good grace to be apologetic -- and mostly I could forgive them because they clearly were trying things to turn it around. They didn't just keep doing exactly the same thing that hadn't been working.
It's the slow motion car crash aspect that makes me no longer care.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Foster:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:
@mariner4life I love that people now don’t enjoy all black wins with great performances!!
Weeeaaakkkkk
A lot of people seem less interested in whether the ABs win or not than who the coach is, sadly.
Losing 6 from 8 will do that to you sadly. Particularly if it includes the first ever home losses to the Paddies and Argies. Let's also not forget that alot of people were pissed off that Foster got the job in the first place.
I've been thinking about this. For me it is not the losing. I supported the ABs through other rough patches, including losing five in a row, and never felt like this. I didn't stop supporting Waikato when they had hideous seasons and were dropped to Div 2.
It's the combination of some very, very poor rugby being played, with a coach that seems oblivious to it all -- indeed tells us constantly that they are very close to clicking. Only to dish up another disaster soon afterwards.
Previous AB coaches had bad runs, but had the good grace to be apologetic -- and mostly I could forgive them because they clearly were trying things to turn it around. They didn't just keep doing exactly the same thing that hadn't been working.
It's the slow motion car crash aspect that makes me no longer care.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Foster:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:
@mariner4life I love that people now don’t enjoy all black wins with great performances!!
Weeeaaakkkkk
A lot of people seem less interested in whether the ABs win or not than who the coach is, sadly.
Losing 6 from 8 will do that to you sadly. Particularly if it includes the first ever home losses to the Paddies and Argies. Let's also not forget that alot of people were pissed off that Foster got the job in the first place.
I've been thinking about this. For me it is not the losing. I supported the ABs through other rough patches, including losing five in a row, and never felt like this. I didn't stop supporting Waikato when they had hideous seasons and were dropped to Div 2.
It's the combination of some very, very poor rugby being played, with a coach that seems oblivious to it all -- indeed tells us constantly that they are very close to clicking. Only to dish up another disaster soon afterwards.
Previous AB coaches had bad runs, but had the good grace to be apologetic -- and mostly I could forgive them because they clearly were trying things to turn it around. They didn't just keep doing exactly the same thing that hadn't been working.
It's the slow motion car crash aspect that makes me no longer care.
@Chester-Draws said in Foster:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Foster:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:
@mariner4life I love that people now don’t enjoy all black wins with great performances!!
Weeeaaakkkkk
A lot of people seem less interested in whether the ABs win or not than who the coach is, sadly.
Losing 6 from 8 will do that to you sadly. Particularly if it includes the first ever home losses to the Paddies and Argies. Let's also not forget that alot of people were pissed off that Foster got the job in the first place.
I've been thinking about this. For me it is not the losing. I supported the ABs through other rough patches, including losing five in a row, and never felt like this. I didn't stop supporting Waikato when they had hideous seasons and were dropped to Div 2.
It's the combination of some very, very poor rugby being played, with a coach that seems oblivious to it all -- indeed tells us constantly that they are very close to clicking. Only to dish up another disaster soon afterwards.
Previous AB coaches had bad runs, but had the good grace to be apologetic -- and mostly I could forgive them because they clearly were trying things to turn it around. They didn't just keep doing exactly the same thing that hadn't been working.
It's the slow motion car crash aspect that makes me no longer care.
Now now, some people wrote nasty things online so mental health or something. Forget the million bucks a year and willingly taking on the most high-pressure coaching gig in world rugby. I swear, John Hart must be playing the world's smallest farking violin.
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If we end up winning rugby championship, retaining Bled and winning all three(4) on end of year northern hem tour (and Japan)
I guess that this season becomes a pass mark for Fozzie.
So long as we beat England at home, I will be happy
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If we end up winning rugby championship, retaining Bled and winning all three(4) on end of year northern hem tour (and Japan)
I guess that this season becomes a pass mark for Fozzie.
So long as we beat England at home, I will be happy
If we end up winning rugby championship, retaining Bled and winning all three(4) on end of year northern hem tour (and Japan)
I guess that this season becomes a pass mark for Fozzie.
So long as we beat England at home, I will be happy
Japan is in the Northern Hemisphere
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@mariner4life said in Foster:
If we end up winning rugby championship, retaining Bled and winning all three(4) on end of year northern hem tour (and Japan)
I guess that this season becomes a pass mark for Fozzie.
So long as we beat England at home, I will be happy
Japan is in the Northern Hemisphere
I still don’t consider it part of NH tour. It’s a flight stop for refreshments
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If we end up winning rugby championship, retaining Bled and winning all three(4) on end of year northern hem tour (and Japan)
I guess that this season becomes a pass mark for Fozzie.
So long as we beat England at home, I will be happy
If we end up winning rugby championship, retaining Bled and winning all three(4) on end of year northern hem tour (and Japan)
I guess that this season becomes a pass mark for Fozzie.
So long as we beat England at home, I will be happy
Foster to deliver a 2-nil Bledisloe with a 60+ aggregate. Keep him until 2025!
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If we end up winning rugby championship, retaining Bled and winning all three(4) on end of year northern hem tour (and Japan)
I guess that this season becomes a pass mark for Fozzie.
So long as we beat England at home, I will be happy
Foster to deliver a 2-nil Bledisloe with a 60+ aggregate. Keep him until 2025!
If we end up winning rugby championship, retaining Bled and winning all three(4) on end of year northern hem tour (and Japan)
I guess that this season becomes a pass mark for Fozzie.
So long as we beat England at home, I will be happy
Foster to deliver a 2-nil Bledisloe with a 60+ aggregate. Keep him until 2025!
I can definitely see that happening. Your team sux arse. Losing three in a row to Scotland is as shameful as it gets.
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If we end up winning rugby championship, retaining Bled and winning all three(4) on end of year northern hem tour (and Japan)
I guess that this season becomes a pass mark for Fozzie.
So long as we beat England at home, I will be happy
Foster to deliver a 2-nil Bledisloe with a 60+ aggregate. Keep him until 2025!
If we end up winning rugby championship, retaining Bled and winning all three(4) on end of year northern hem tour (and Japan)
I guess that this season becomes a pass mark for Fozzie.
So long as we beat England at home, I will be happy
Foster to deliver a 2-nil Bledisloe with a 60+ aggregate. Keep him until 2025!
Eden Park needs to work its voodoo magic.
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If we end up winning rugby championship, retaining Bled and winning all three(4) on end of year northern hem tour (and Japan)
I guess that this season becomes a pass mark for Fozzie.
So long as we beat England at home, I will be happy
Foster to deliver a 2-nil Bledisloe with a 60+ aggregate. Keep him until 2025!
Eden Park needs to work its voodoo magic.
@Joans-Town-Jones said in Foster:
If we end up winning rugby championship, retaining Bled and winning all three(4) on end of year northern hem tour (and Japan)
I guess that this season becomes a pass mark for Fozzie.
So long as we beat England at home, I will be happy
Foster to deliver a 2-nil Bledisloe with a 60+ aggregate. Keep him until 2025!
Eden Park needs to work its voodoo magic.
my maths isn't great but doesn't that require 58 points or more in the lead for the ABs? At Eden Park?
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@Joans-Town-Jones said in Foster:
If we end up winning rugby championship, retaining Bled and winning all three(4) on end of year northern hem tour (and Japan)
I guess that this season becomes a pass mark for Fozzie.
So long as we beat England at home, I will be happy
Foster to deliver a 2-nil Bledisloe with a 60+ aggregate. Keep him until 2025!
Eden Park needs to work its voodoo magic.
my maths isn't great but doesn't that require 58 points or more in the lead for the ABs? At Eden Park?
@nostrildamus said in Foster:
@Joans-Town-Jones said in Foster:
If we end up winning rugby championship, retaining Bled and winning all three(4) on end of year northern hem tour (and Japan)
I guess that this season becomes a pass mark for Fozzie.
So long as we beat England at home, I will be happy
Foster to deliver a 2-nil Bledisloe with a 60+ aggregate. Keep him until 2025!
Eden Park needs to work its voodoo magic.
my maths isn't great but doesn't that require 58 points or more in the lead for the ABs? At Eden Park?
They'll take the learnings, they're on the verge of something special.
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@nostrildamus said in Foster:
@Joans-Town-Jones said in Foster:
If we end up winning rugby championship, retaining Bled and winning all three(4) on end of year northern hem tour (and Japan)
I guess that this season becomes a pass mark for Fozzie.
So long as we beat England at home, I will be happy
Foster to deliver a 2-nil Bledisloe with a 60+ aggregate. Keep him until 2025!
Eden Park needs to work its voodoo magic.
my maths isn't great but doesn't that require 58 points or more in the lead for the ABs? At Eden Park?
They'll take the learnings, they're on the verge of something special.
@Joans-Town-Jones said in Foster:
@nostrildamus said in Foster:
@Joans-Town-Jones said in Foster:
If we end up winning rugby championship, retaining Bled and winning all three(4) on end of year northern hem tour (and Japan)
I guess that this season becomes a pass mark for Fozzie.
So long as we beat England at home, I will be happy
Foster to deliver a 2-nil Bledisloe with a 60+ aggregate. Keep him until 2025!
Eden Park needs to work its voodoo magic.
my maths isn't great but doesn't that require 58 points or more in the lead for the ABs? At Eden Park?
They'll take the learnings, they're on the verge of something special.
oh that is reassuring.
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Not to jinx it but....
This wraps up the Rugby Championship for mine.
NZ should win next week taking them to 18 or 19 points. They won't lose at Eden Park and Melbourne was there bad performance, they should be better next week.
Even if RSA beats Argentina twice. It won't be by big enough margins to make up the points margin deficit.
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He's still a shit coach. Really hoping those muppets at NZR don't now extend Foster's contract to aftet the 2023 RWC.
He's still a shit coach. Really hoping those muppets at NZR don't now extend Foster's contract to aftet the 2023 RWC.
Don't think that decision will be made until after RWC2023.
If Foster reaches the Final (or even has a close SF exit), they'll see a strong case for retaining him - particularly as it could be argued he rescued the team from the nadir of 2021/22 and rose above the pressure and personal criticism from the media and public.
