The Current State of Rugby
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@Crucial said in The Current State of Rugby:
@MN5 said in The Current State of Rugby:
@Crucial said in The Current State of Rugby:
@MN5 said in The Current State of Rugby:
@nzzp said in The Current State of Rugby:
@Rapido said in The Current State of Rugby:
On this subject, sort of.
I saw highlights of Wellington NPC game. Played at Porirua Park. Rather than caketin.
Beervana right? I mean, if you made me choose between Rugby and Beer, I'd shoot you, but can udnerstand one weekend
Pretty easy decision for me, Beervana fucken rocked. Outstanding fun as always.
The Cake Tin woulda got about 5 thousand for that game in the shitty conditions if they were lucky.
I think the comments were more about allowing a scheduling clash. Agree that the Caketin is a shit venue for small draw games but it is better than Porirua for players and spectators alike.
Caketin is also a shit venue for Beervana IMO.
Back in the day it was in the town hall. Less beards. Added bonus of being able to pop in and out during working hours due to central location.
Back to the rugby and I ended up going to JC Stadium for the FPC game. Drove there and back. Had it been at the Caketin I could have caught the train and would have spent some money on a few beers plus some food to go with it. A shitty hotdog from a caravan didnât appeal.Yeah we went to Brewday at the TSB. That was a good spot but the cake tin works too. While youâre at Beervana why would you feel the need to pop out ? That cuts into beer time which makes no sense to me.
Workday. Beervana never used to have these ticketed sessions. A ticket at the door allowed entry for the whole day and used to run Thursday to Saturday.
Oh, and it was about trying the beer not consuming as much as possible.
You could do a lunchtime, go back to work for a meeting, go back for a couple more etc.Going back after a 13% stout might be hard work
@MN5 said in The Current State of Rugby:
@Crucial said in The Current State of Rugby:
@MN5 said in The Current State of Rugby:
@Crucial said in The Current State of Rugby:
@MN5 said in The Current State of Rugby:
@nzzp said in The Current State of Rugby:
@Rapido said in The Current State of Rugby:
On this subject, sort of.
I saw highlights of Wellington NPC game. Played at Porirua Park. Rather than caketin.
Beervana right? I mean, if you made me choose between Rugby and Beer, I'd shoot you, but can udnerstand one weekend
Pretty easy decision for me, Beervana fucken rocked. Outstanding fun as always.
The Cake Tin woulda got about 5 thousand for that game in the shitty conditions if they were lucky.
I think the comments were more about allowing a scheduling clash. Agree that the Caketin is a shit venue for small draw games but it is better than Porirua for players and spectators alike.
Caketin is also a shit venue for Beervana IMO.
Back in the day it was in the town hall. Less beards. Added bonus of being able to pop in and out during working hours due to central location.
Back to the rugby and I ended up going to JC Stadium for the FPC game. Drove there and back. Had it been at the Caketin I could have caught the train and would have spent some money on a few beers plus some food to go with it. A shitty hotdog from a caravan didnât appeal.Yeah we went to Brewday at the TSB. That was a good spot but the cake tin works too. While youâre at Beervana why would you feel the need to pop out ? That cuts into beer time which makes no sense to me.
Workday. Beervana never used to have these ticketed sessions. A ticket at the door allowed entry for the whole day and used to run Thursday to Saturday.
Oh, and it was about trying the beer not consuming as much as possible.
You could do a lunchtime, go back to work for a meeting, go back for a couple more etc.Going back after a 13% stout might be hard work
It was but pacing yourself is an art and drinking imperials is a road to cutting yourself short.
I made that mistake at a beer fest in London one evening. Was going along at a good pace with a plan but decided to stop for a feed. Stupidly asked the crew at WildBeer to give me a full glass of their recommendation to have with the food. It turned out to be a killer and I could see ahead to a âhow do I get homeâ situation.
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@MiketheSnow said in The Current State of Rugby:
@Machpants said in The Current State of Rugby:
Fascinating
Obviously knows what he's doing
âWhen you are trying to build tribalism and you have hibernation, you get passive fans rather than engaged fans. The AFL has done an incredible job of doubling the action off the field as soon as the action on the field stops."
Reminded me of Adelaide, 2003. A week or two before the RWC double-header Saturday/Sunday, there were banners up all over the city promoting it.
90% of the sport pages were about the AFL draft.
That's the power of AFL, combined with the power of Adelaide seeking relevance with Victoria.
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https://twitter.com/joshgardner/status/1561835141311381506?t=TLVWD_Bu8jM6AUYU0fpq5Q&s=19
Seemed to be the right thread for this
@Kirwan i watched that this morning, and sadly my first thought was
"social media (most certainly including this joint) would fucking explode and call for a few of those guys to never, ever wear black again"
we as fans have lost a lot of the magic of rugby in our over-analysis and demand for perfection.
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said it before
went and watched the club lose their grand final on sat....but the day in the sun with $5 beers, $2 sausage sizzle and then the night back the the club room.....even if we did lose the game... was so much better than almost any win the AB's have had over the last few years
i remember screaming about this or that call by the ref during the game...dont remember mentioning the ref once afterwards, enjoy the good bits...forget the rest
all of this was happening at the same time as the ABs and Aussie games were on...no one watched, top level rugby is so far disconnected from grass roots it laughable
grass roots is where its at
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said it before
went and watched the club lose their grand final on sat....but the day in the sun with $5 beers, $2 sausage sizzle and then the night back the the club room.....even if we did lose the game... was so much better than almost any win the AB's have had over the last few years
i remember screaming about this or that call by the ref during the game...dont remember mentioning the ref once afterwards, enjoy the good bits...forget the rest
all of this was happening at the same time as the ABs and Aussie games were on...no one watched, top level rugby is so far disconnected from grass roots it laughable
grass roots is where its at
@Kiwiwomble said in The Current State of Rugby:
all of this was happening at the same time as the ABs and Aussie games were on...no one watched, top level rugby is so far disconnected from grass roots it laughable.
pretty much why i dont watch super rugby in a nutshell.
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@Kiwiwomble said in The Current State of Rugby:
all of this was happening at the same time as the ABs and Aussie games were on...no one watched, top level rugby is so far disconnected from grass roots it laughable.
pretty much why i dont watch super rugby in a nutshell.
@muddyriver i know right, i know there are lots of things that need to be fix with rugby....but allowing those that like rugby enough to actually be involved in a club to watch has got to be a start
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@canefan the only thing i'll add to that is i think they have made themselves more important at least partially because there is more and more outcry from people...like us....for things not being pulled up in the past, i think part of fixing things is for the fans to chill out and accept calls will generally go both ways
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@canefan said in The Current State of Rugby:
I think this is a bullshit call to be honest.
How about the players and coaches finding every little way possible to make the refs job a nightmare? Pushing the envelope continually and then crying that the refs are blowing the whistle too much is a bit rich.
You still need rules/laws to play the game and therefore someone has to keep both teams within those rules to keep things fair.
The refs don't commit fouls or act illegally, that's the players. Add in the coaches that get them to push the boundaries.I'm happy to continue calling for consistency and for as much accuracy as possible, also for refs to have a 'feel' for the game and allowing minor infringements to go uncalled if both sides are doing the same thing. Campo just wants rules to apply when it suits.
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@canefan said in The Current State of Rugby:
I think this is a bullshit call to be honest.
How about the players and coaches finding every little way possible to make the refs job a nightmare? Pushing the envelope continually and then crying that the refs are blowing the whistle too much is a bit rich.
You still need rules/laws to play the game and therefore someone has to keep both teams within those rules to keep things fair.
The refs don't commit fouls or act illegally, that's the players. Add in the coaches that get them to push the boundaries.I'm happy to continue calling for consistency and for as much accuracy as possible, also for refs to have a 'feel' for the game and allowing minor infringements to go uncalled if both sides are doing the same thing. Campo just wants rules to apply when it suits.
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@Crucial agreed. Every time Campo has a sook about the state of Rugby, I remind myself that laws were very loose when he started, didn't change much while he played, and he still doesn't know a lot about any of them.
@NTA said in The Current State of Rugby:
@Crucial agreed. Every time Campo has a sook about the state of Rugby, I remind myself that laws were very loose when he started, didn't change much while he played, and he still doesn't know a lot about any of them.
He would fit right into the Fern
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@NTA said in The Current State of Rugby:
@Crucial agreed. Every time Campo has a sook about the state of Rugby, I remind myself that laws were very loose when he started, didn't change much while he played, and he still doesn't know a lot about any of them.
He would fit right into the Fern
@canefan said in The Current State of Rugby:
@NTA said in The Current State of Rugby:
@Crucial agreed. Every time Campo has a sook about the state of Rugby, I remind myself that laws were very loose when he started, didn't change much while he played, and he still doesn't know a lot about any of them.
He would fit right into the Fern
was just going to say all of that doesn't stop us having a sook
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Raynals performance on Thursday was the current malaise the game faces writ large.
Fucking farcical.
Foleys fwd pass to Kellaway for the try missed.
Foley practically chips the conversion kick over Raynals head to avoid it getting looked at again.
Swain not getting a red......and the commentators lack of froth about it.
Angus Ta'avo got 6 weeks for an accidental head clash that knocked himself out.
Tupea had his MCL ruptured and a partial ACL tear. Fucking unacceptable.Foketi's turnover that was going to win the Wallabies the match. He crawled into the ruck on his knees within 2 yards of the ref. Penalty Australia.
The correct (but never ever fucking given) time wasting penalty to award NZ a scrum.
Then Mo'unga gets to take a drop goal conversion while there is a camera man on a Segway under the posts and about 5 Allblacks in front of him fighting with Folau Fa'ainga. Dane Coles can be seen running in from 20 yards away for some biff.
The conversion was immaterial to the result but indicative of how Raynal had lost complete control of proceedings.
This article was written BEFORE the match....
It speaks to how little faith most of us have in the dice rolling circus act that the game has become.
It is a fucking horrendously run sport at the moment and it is driving me bonkers.
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Raynals performance on Thursday was the current malaise the game faces writ large.
Fucking farcical.
Foleys fwd pass to Kellaway for the try missed.
Foley practically chips the conversion kick over Raynals head to avoid it getting looked at again.
Swain not getting a red......and the commentators lack of froth about it.
Angus Ta'avo got 6 weeks for an accidental head clash that knocked himself out.
Tupea had his MCL ruptured and a partial ACL tear. Fucking unacceptable.Foketi's turnover that was going to win the Wallabies the match. He crawled into the ruck on his knees within 2 yards of the ref. Penalty Australia.
The correct (but never ever fucking given) time wasting penalty to award NZ a scrum.
Then Mo'unga gets to take a drop goal conversion while there is a camera man on a Segway under the posts and about 5 Allblacks in front of him fighting with Folau Fa'ainga. Dane Coles can be seen running in from 20 yards away for some biff.
The conversion was immaterial to the result but indicative of how Raynal had lost complete control of proceedings.
This article was written BEFORE the match....
It speaks to how little faith most of us have in the dice rolling circus act that the game has become.
It is a fucking horrendously run sport at the moment and it is driving me bonkers.
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@Steve or you could have just posted....âFrench refâ
That linked article barely hits the low bar of fact of a forum.
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Raynals performance on Thursday was the current malaise the game faces writ large.
Fucking farcical.
Foleys fwd pass to Kellaway for the try missed.
Foley practically chips the conversion kick over Raynals head to avoid it getting looked at again.
Swain not getting a red......and the commentators lack of froth about it.
Angus Ta'avo got 6 weeks for an accidental head clash that knocked himself out.
Tupea had his MCL ruptured and a partial ACL tear. Fucking unacceptable.Foketi's turnover that was going to win the Wallabies the match. He crawled into the ruck on his knees within 2 yards of the ref. Penalty Australia.
The correct (but never ever fucking given) time wasting penalty to award NZ a scrum.
Then Mo'unga gets to take a drop goal conversion while there is a camera man on a Segway under the posts and about 5 Allblacks in front of him fighting with Folau Fa'ainga. Dane Coles can be seen running in from 20 yards away for some biff.
The conversion was immaterial to the result but indicative of how Raynal had lost complete control of proceedings.
This article was written BEFORE the match....
It speaks to how little faith most of us have in the dice rolling circus act that the game has become.
It is a fucking horrendously run sport at the moment and it is driving me bonkers.
@Steve said in The Current State of Rugby:
Dane Coles can be seen running in from 20 yards away for some biff
Funnily, after that time wasting scrum was awarded, Coles came storming in aggressively trying to snatch the ball off whoever still had it, such a muppet.
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@Crucial said in The Current State of Rugby:
@Steve or you could have just posted....âFrench refâ
That linked article barely hits the low bar of fact of a forum.
Itâs not just French ref thoughâŚ..the whole thing is a mess.
@Steve said in The Current State of Rugby:
@Crucial said in The Current State of Rugby:
@Steve or you could have just posted....âFrench refâ
That linked article barely hits the low bar of fact of a forum.
Itâs not just French ref thoughâŚ..the whole thing is a mess.
Youâre post was just âFrench refâ though and the âarticleâ linked to was so full of hyperbole and outdated comments it might just have been written by David Campese.
Had to laugh at how the writer completely tangled up their logic to support refs not being the centre of things by praising Gardner for taking control and not listening to anyone else. -
@Steve said in The Current State of Rugby:
@Crucial said in The Current State of Rugby:
@Steve or you could have just posted....âFrench refâ
That linked article barely hits the low bar of fact of a forum.
Itâs not just French ref thoughâŚ..the whole thing is a mess.
Youâre post was just âFrench refâ though and the âarticleâ linked to was so full of hyperbole and outdated comments it might just have been written by David Campese.
Had to laugh at how the writer completely tangled up their logic to support refs not being the centre of things by praising Gardner for taking control and not listening to anyone else.@Crucial said in The Current State of Rugby:
@Steve said in The Current State of Rugby:
@Crucial said in The Current State of Rugby:
@Steve or you could have just posted....âFrench refâ
That linked article barely hits the low bar of fact of a forum.
Itâs not just French ref thoughâŚ..the whole thing is a mess.
Youâre post was just âFrench refâ though and the âarticleâ linked to was so full of hyperbole and outdated comments it might just have been written by David Campese.
Had to laugh at how the writer completely tangled up their logic to support refs not being the centre of things by praising Gardner for taking control and not listening to anyone else.Itâs a thread about how they are making a bollox of it . And my post is about the latest ref to make a bollox of it.
The article is about the possibly of said ref making a bollox of it.
Iâm not sure if your angle here? Do you think Thursdays game was a judicious tour de force ?
Or have you inserted yourself into the thread to be an intentionally disagreeable conversational speed bump.
