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Bledisloe 2

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    I could see Leicester coming in for Clarke and adding 13 cover.

    Foster name checked Leicester.

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    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

      I could see Leicester coming in for Clarke and adding 13 cover.

      Foster name checked Leicester.

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      @KiwiMurph

      I think they'll favour Ennor over Fainga'anuku to provide cover at 12 and 13. It might be Reece and Ennor on the bench, with Jordan as fullback cover if BB has to go off. It's easier to slot someone on the wing than rearrange the midfield - again.

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      • BovidaeB Bovidae

        @KiwiMurph

        I think they'll favour Ennor over Fainga'anuku to provide cover at 12 and 13. It might be Reece and Ennor on the bench, with Jordan as fullback cover if BB has to go off. It's easier to slot someone on the wing than rearrange the midfield - again.

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        @Bovidae said in Bledisloe 2:

        @KiwiMurph

        I think they'll favour Ennor over Fainga'anuku to provide cover at 12 and 13. It might be Reece and Ennor on the bench, with Jordan as fullback cover if BB has to go off. It's easier to slot someone on the wing than rearrange the midfield - again.

        Why make it so complicated when there is only one spot to fill?

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        • CrucialC Crucial

          @Bovidae said in Bledisloe 2:

          @KiwiMurph

          I think they'll favour Ennor over Fainga'anuku to provide cover at 12 and 13. It might be Reece and Ennor on the bench, with Jordan as fullback cover if BB has to go off. It's easier to slot someone on the wing than rearrange the midfield - again.

          Why make it so complicated when there is only one spot to fill?

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          @Crucial said in Bledisloe 2:

          Why make it so complicated when there is only one spot to fill?

          In the starting XV or 23?

          There needs to be two new back reserves to replace BB (on the assumption he starts at FB) and Tupaea (injured). RTS can provide 2nd 5 cover only, but that will mean Reece misses out.

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          • BovidaeB Bovidae

            @ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe 2:

            Still a question mark over Ardie’s availability?

            He'll be back. Foster made a comment that implied the baby had been born.

            The easiest option is JB to 12 and BB to 15, i.e., the backline that played in the 2nd half. I also don't think that the RM-BB combo has worked that well.

            Putting RTS at 12, in combination with Ioane, could also be looked at. Less disruption and you still have the aerial strength and big boot of JB at the back. BB to provide impact off the bench.

            I think there may also be some tweaks in the reserve forwards like Ofa for Newell.

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            @Bovidae said in Bledisloe 2:

            The easiest option is JB to 12 and BB to 15, i.e., the backline that played in the 2nd half. I also don't think that the RM-BB combo has worked that well.

            Putting RTS at 12, in combination with Ioane, could also be looked at. Less disruption and you still have the aerial strength and big boot of JB at the back. BB to provide impact off the bench.

            If they do go for RTS they’ll be tempted to have BB start at 10. A 10/12/13 combo that went well in SR

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            • DuluthD Duluth

              @Bovidae said in Bledisloe 2:

              The easiest option is JB to 12 and BB to 15, i.e., the backline that played in the 2nd half. I also don't think that the RM-BB combo has worked that well.

              Putting RTS at 12, in combination with Ioane, could also be looked at. Less disruption and you still have the aerial strength and big boot of JB at the back. BB to provide impact off the bench.

              If they do go for RTS they’ll be tempted to have BB start at 10. A 10/12/13 combo that went well in SR

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              @Duluth with that 10, 12, 13 would you have JB at 15 and stick with the current wings? I think I'd be ok with that midfield if we had Reece in for Clarke.

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              • PaekakboyzP Paekakboyz

                @Duluth with that 10, 12, 13 would you have JB at 15 and stick with the current wings? I think I'd be ok with that midfield if we had Reece in for Clarke.

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                @Paekakboyz

                Reece in for Jordan IMO

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                • CrucialC Crucial

                  @Bovidae said in Bledisloe 2:

                  @KiwiMurph

                  I think they'll favour Ennor over Fainga'anuku to provide cover at 12 and 13. It might be Reece and Ennor on the bench, with Jordan as fullback cover if BB has to go off. It's easier to slot someone on the wing than rearrange the midfield - again.

                  Why make it so complicated when there is only one spot to fill?

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                  #49

                  @Crucial said in Bledisloe 2:

                  @Bovidae said in Bledisloe 2:

                  @KiwiMurph

                  I think they'll favour Ennor over Fainga'anuku to provide cover at 12 and 13. It might be Reece and Ennor on the bench, with Jordan as fullback cover if BB has to go off. It's easier to slot someone on the wing than rearrange the midfield - again.

                  Why make it so complicated when there is only one spot to fill?

                  Upvote for the bold. But we will need to find a bench replacement too.

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                  • TimT Offline
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                    #50

                    Clarke and Jordan definitely need some polish, but they are strike weapons we will need at the WC.

                    Defensive pattern and tight five depth are my biggest concerns.

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                      • boobooB booboo

                        @Crucial said in Bledisloe 2:

                        @Bovidae said in Bledisloe 2:

                        @KiwiMurph

                        I think they'll favour Ennor over Fainga'anuku to provide cover at 12 and 13. It might be Reece and Ennor on the bench, with Jordan as fullback cover if BB has to go off. It's easier to slot someone on the wing than rearrange the midfield - again.

                        Why make it so complicated when there is only one spot to fill?

                        Upvote for the bold. But we will need to find a bench replacement too.

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                        @booboo said in Bledisloe 2:

                        @Crucial said in Bledisloe 2:

                        @Bovidae said in Bledisloe 2:

                        @KiwiMurph

                        I think they'll favour Ennor over Fainga'anuku to provide cover at 12 and 13. It might be Reece and Ennor on the bench, with Jordan as fullback cover if BB has to go off. It's easier to slot someone on the wing than rearrange the midfield - again.

                        Why make it so complicated when there is only one spot to fill?

                        Upvote for the bold. But we will need to find a bench replacement too.

                        FC, BB and Reece.

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                        • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                          @Bones said in Bledisloe 2:

                          @Crazy-Horse said in Bledisloe 2:

                          @Bones said in Foster:

                          @Crazy-Horse he's used to playing outside Morgan who is more like RM.

                          I was more concerned at the prospect of BB being at 15 with RM at 10. That has not worked and I suspect adding JB into the playmaking mix may complicate things too much.

                          Yeah I don't really see that JB would play more of a playmaking role than DH?

                          Still missing my point. I have no issue with JB being at 12 no matter how he plays. My issue is with RM at 10 if BB is at 15. Those two haven't worked out how to play well together.

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                          Bones
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                          #53

                          @Crazy-Horse said in Bledisloe 2:

                          @Bones said in Bledisloe 2:

                          @Crazy-Horse said in Bledisloe 2:

                          @Bones said in Foster:

                          @Crazy-Horse he's used to playing outside Morgan who is more like RM.

                          I was more concerned at the prospect of BB being at 15 with RM at 10. That has not worked and I suspect adding JB into the playmaking mix may complicate things too much.

                          Yeah I don't really see that JB would play more of a playmaking role than DH?

                          Still missing my point. I have no issue with JB being at 12 no matter how he plays. My issue is with RM at 10 if BB is at 15. Those two haven't worked out how to play well together.

                          No, you explicitly said adding JB into the playmaking mix may complicate things, which makes no sense when you consider the role DH plays.

                          Who knows, maybe JB at 12 may be the key to unlocking the RM/BB dysfunction?

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                          • BonesB Online
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                            Bones
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                            #54

                            Has RTS lost his pace? I do wish he could've had a bit more "learnings" at centre or wing, would solve a problem or two.

                            I like the idea of Perofeta to fullback if JB to 12. Swap out Jordan for Reece - at least Clarke is trying, I'm sick of seeing Jordan watching on, there was more than one kick he could have put pressure on.

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                            • BonesB Bones

                              @Crazy-Horse said in Bledisloe 2:

                              @Bones said in Bledisloe 2:

                              @Crazy-Horse said in Bledisloe 2:

                              @Bones said in Foster:

                              @Crazy-Horse he's used to playing outside Morgan who is more like RM.

                              I was more concerned at the prospect of BB being at 15 with RM at 10. That has not worked and I suspect adding JB into the playmaking mix may complicate things too much.

                              Yeah I don't really see that JB would play more of a playmaking role than DH?

                              Still missing my point. I have no issue with JB being at 12 no matter how he plays. My issue is with RM at 10 if BB is at 15. Those two haven't worked out how to play well together.

                              No, you explicitly said adding JB into the playmaking mix may complicate things, which makes no sense when you consider the role DH plays.

                              Who knows, maybe JB at 12 may be the key to unlocking the RM/BB dysfunction?

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                              @Bones said in Bledisloe 2:

                              @Crazy-Horse said in Bledisloe 2:

                              @Bones said in Bledisloe 2:

                              @Crazy-Horse said in Bledisloe 2:

                              @Bones said in Foster:

                              @Crazy-Horse he's used to playing outside Morgan who is more like RM.

                              I was more concerned at the prospect of BB being at 15 with RM at 10. That has not worked and I suspect adding JB into the playmaking mix may complicate things too much.

                              Yeah I don't really see that JB would play more of a playmaking role than DH?

                              Still missing my point. I have no issue with JB being at 12 no matter how he plays. My issue is with RM at 10 if BB is at 15. Those two haven't worked out how to play well together.

                              No, you explicitly said adding JB into the playmaking mix may complicate things, which makes no sense when you consider the role DH plays.

                              Who knows, maybe JB at 12 may be the key to unlocking the RM/BB dysfunction?

                              Ok, you win.

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                              • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                                @Bones said in Bledisloe 2:

                                @Crazy-Horse said in Bledisloe 2:

                                @Bones said in Bledisloe 2:

                                @Crazy-Horse said in Bledisloe 2:

                                @Bones said in Foster:

                                @Crazy-Horse he's used to playing outside Morgan who is more like RM.

                                I was more concerned at the prospect of BB being at 15 with RM at 10. That has not worked and I suspect adding JB into the playmaking mix may complicate things too much.

                                Yeah I don't really see that JB would play more of a playmaking role than DH?

                                Still missing my point. I have no issue with JB being at 12 no matter how he plays. My issue is with RM at 10 if BB is at 15. Those two haven't worked out how to play well together.

                                No, you explicitly said adding JB into the playmaking mix may complicate things, which makes no sense when you consider the role DH plays.

                                Who knows, maybe JB at 12 may be the key to unlocking the RM/BB dysfunction?

                                Ok, you win.

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                                Bones
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                                #56

                                @Crazy-Horse said in Bledisloe 2:

                                @Bones said in Bledisloe 2:

                                @Crazy-Horse said in Bledisloe 2:

                                @Bones said in Bledisloe 2:

                                @Crazy-Horse said in Bledisloe 2:

                                @Bones said in Foster:

                                @Crazy-Horse he's used to playing outside Morgan who is more like RM.

                                I was more concerned at the prospect of BB being at 15 with RM at 10. That has not worked and I suspect adding JB into the playmaking mix may complicate things too much.

                                Yeah I don't really see that JB would play more of a playmaking role than DH?

                                Still missing my point. I have no issue with JB being at 12 no matter how he plays. My issue is with RM at 10 if BB is at 15. Those two haven't worked out how to play well together.

                                No, you explicitly said adding JB into the playmaking mix may complicate things, which makes no sense when you consider the role DH plays.

                                Who knows, maybe JB at 12 may be the key to unlocking the RM/BB dysfunction?

                                Ok, you win.

                                So do the ABs.

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                                • BonesB Bones

                                  @Crazy-Horse said in Bledisloe 2:

                                  @Bones said in Bledisloe 2:

                                  @Crazy-Horse said in Bledisloe 2:

                                  @Bones said in Foster:

                                  @Crazy-Horse he's used to playing outside Morgan who is more like RM.

                                  I was more concerned at the prospect of BB being at 15 with RM at 10. That has not worked and I suspect adding JB into the playmaking mix may complicate things too much.

                                  Yeah I don't really see that JB would play more of a playmaking role than DH?

                                  Still missing my point. I have no issue with JB being at 12 no matter how he plays. My issue is with RM at 10 if BB is at 15. Those two haven't worked out how to play well together.

                                  No, you explicitly said adding JB into the playmaking mix may complicate things, which makes no sense when you consider the role DH plays.

                                  Who knows, maybe JB at 12 may be the key to unlocking the RM/BB dysfunction?

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                                  @Bones said in Bledisloe 2:

                                  @Crazy-Horse said in Bledisloe 2:

                                  @Bones said in Bledisloe 2:

                                  @Crazy-Horse said in Bledisloe 2:

                                  @Bones said in Foster:

                                  @Crazy-Horse he's used to playing outside Morgan who is more like RM.

                                  I was more concerned at the prospect of BB being at 15 with RM at 10. That has not worked and I suspect adding JB into the playmaking mix may complicate things too much.

                                  Yeah I don't really see that JB would play more of a playmaking role than DH?

                                  Still missing my point. I have no issue with JB being at 12 no matter how he plays. My issue is with RM at 10 if BB is at 15. Those two haven't worked out how to play well together.

                                  No, you explicitly said adding JB into the playmaking mix may complicate things, which makes no sense when you consider the role DH plays.

                                  Who knows, maybe JB at 12 may be the key to unlocking the RM/BB dysfunction?

                                  I hope so. Wouldn't that be something? We either have a shit D coach or lack leadership on defence. Snake used to boss the midfield, maybe JB can do it too?

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                                    #58

                                    We should definitely persevere with Clarke, he's our only genuine power winger and he's making breaks on a regular basis which is gold at test level. His biggest work on is decision making after he's busted clear, which will come with experience.

                                    Jordan was better in the last game, after the match he said he'd spoken to Enoka who had stressed that he should he looking for work all game if the ball isn't coming his way. He's definitely been guilty of waiting for the play instead of going searching for it. Reece is a player that you just can't keep out of the game in that respect, so I'd be pretty happy to see him given another crack on the wing.

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                                    • No QuarterN No Quarter

                                      We should definitely persevere with Clarke, he's our only genuine power winger and he's making breaks on a regular basis which is gold at test level. His biggest work on is decision making after he's busted clear, which will come with experience.

                                      Jordan was better in the last game, after the match he said he'd spoken to Enoka who had stressed that he should he looking for work all game if the ball isn't coming his way. He's definitely been guilty of waiting for the play instead of going searching for it. Reece is a player that you just can't keep out of the game in that respect, so I'd be pretty happy to see him given another crack on the wing.

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                                      @No-Quarter said in Bledisloe 2:

                                      he's making breaks

                                      My only gripe here...is he? He appears to be being put into space to me. He's not really a power winger, he's just a winger who's big.

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                                      • BonesB Bones

                                        @No-Quarter said in Bledisloe 2:

                                        he's making breaks

                                        My only gripe here...is he? He appears to be being put into space to me. He's not really a power winger, he's just a winger who's big.

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                                        #60

                                        @Bones said in Bledisloe 2:

                                        @No-Quarter said in Bledisloe 2:

                                        he's making breaks

                                        My only gripe here...is he? He appears to be being put into space to me. He's not really a power winger, he's just a winger who's big.

                                        Unless he starts learning to link up or set a target to recycle, what's the point?

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                                        • CrucialC Crucial

                                          @booboo said in Bledisloe 2:

                                          @Crucial said in Bledisloe 2:

                                          @Bovidae said in Bledisloe 2:

                                          @KiwiMurph

                                          I think they'll favour Ennor over Fainga'anuku to provide cover at 12 and 13. It might be Reece and Ennor on the bench, with Jordan as fullback cover if BB has to go off. It's easier to slot someone on the wing than rearrange the midfield - again.

                                          Why make it so complicated when there is only one spot to fill?

                                          Upvote for the bold. But we will need to find a bench replacement too.

                                          FC, BB and Reece.

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                                          @Crucial said in Bledisloe 2:

                                          @booboo said in Bledisloe 2:

                                          @Crucial said in Bledisloe 2:

                                          @Bovidae said in Bledisloe 2:

                                          @KiwiMurph

                                          I think they'll favour Ennor over Fainga'anuku to provide cover at 12 and 13. It might be Reece and Ennor on the bench, with Jordan as fullback cover if BB has to go off. It's easier to slot someone on the wing than rearrange the midfield - again.

                                          Why make it so complicated when there is only one spot to fill?

                                          Upvote for the bold. But we will need to find a bench replacement too.

                                          FC, BB and Reece.

                                          Leaves us short of midfield cover.

                                          I'm thinking LF.

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