Bledisloe 2
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@ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe 2:
Still a question mark over Ardie’s availability?
He'll be back. Foster made a comment that implied the baby had been born.
The easiest option is JB to 12 and BB to 15, i.e., the backline that played in the 2nd half. I also don't think that the RM-BB combo has worked that well.
Putting RTS at 12, in combination with Ioane, could also be looked at. Less disruption and you still have the aerial strength and big boot of JB at the back. BB to provide impact off the bench.
I think there may also be some tweaks in the reserve forwards like Ofa for Newell.
@Bovidae said in Bledisloe 2:
The easiest option is JB to 12 and BB to 15, i.e., the backline that played in the 2nd half. I also don't think that the RM-BB combo has worked that well.
Putting RTS at 12, in combination with Ioane, could also be looked at. Less disruption and you still have the aerial strength and big boot of JB at the back. BB to provide impact off the bench.
If they do go for RTS they’ll be tempted to have BB start at 10. A 10/12/13 combo that went well in SR
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@Bovidae said in Bledisloe 2:
The easiest option is JB to 12 and BB to 15, i.e., the backline that played in the 2nd half. I also don't think that the RM-BB combo has worked that well.
Putting RTS at 12, in combination with Ioane, could also be looked at. Less disruption and you still have the aerial strength and big boot of JB at the back. BB to provide impact off the bench.
If they do go for RTS they’ll be tempted to have BB start at 10. A 10/12/13 combo that went well in SR
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@Duluth with that 10, 12, 13 would you have JB at 15 and stick with the current wings? I think I'd be ok with that midfield if we had Reece in for Clarke.
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@Bovidae said in Bledisloe 2:
I think they'll favour Ennor over Fainga'anuku to provide cover at 12 and 13. It might be Reece and Ennor on the bench, with Jordan as fullback cover if BB has to go off. It's easier to slot someone on the wing than rearrange the midfield - again.
Why make it so complicated when there is only one spot to fill?
@Crucial said in Bledisloe 2:
@Bovidae said in Bledisloe 2:
I think they'll favour Ennor over Fainga'anuku to provide cover at 12 and 13. It might be Reece and Ennor on the bench, with Jordan as fullback cover if BB has to go off. It's easier to slot someone on the wing than rearrange the midfield - again.
Why make it so complicated when there is only one spot to fill?
Upvote for the bold. But we will need to find a bench replacement too.
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@Crucial said in Bledisloe 2:
@Bovidae said in Bledisloe 2:
I think they'll favour Ennor over Fainga'anuku to provide cover at 12 and 13. It might be Reece and Ennor on the bench, with Jordan as fullback cover if BB has to go off. It's easier to slot someone on the wing than rearrange the midfield - again.
Why make it so complicated when there is only one spot to fill?
Upvote for the bold. But we will need to find a bench replacement too.
@booboo said in Bledisloe 2:
@Crucial said in Bledisloe 2:
@Bovidae said in Bledisloe 2:
I think they'll favour Ennor over Fainga'anuku to provide cover at 12 and 13. It might be Reece and Ennor on the bench, with Jordan as fullback cover if BB has to go off. It's easier to slot someone on the wing than rearrange the midfield - again.
Why make it so complicated when there is only one spot to fill?
Upvote for the bold. But we will need to find a bench replacement too.
FC, BB and Reece.
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@Bones said in Bledisloe 2:
@Crazy-Horse said in Bledisloe 2:
@Crazy-Horse he's used to playing outside Morgan who is more like RM.
I was more concerned at the prospect of BB being at 15 with RM at 10. That has not worked and I suspect adding JB into the playmaking mix may complicate things too much.
Yeah I don't really see that JB would play more of a playmaking role than DH?
Still missing my point. I have no issue with JB being at 12 no matter how he plays. My issue is with RM at 10 if BB is at 15. Those two haven't worked out how to play well together.
@Crazy-Horse said in Bledisloe 2:
@Bones said in Bledisloe 2:
@Crazy-Horse said in Bledisloe 2:
@Crazy-Horse he's used to playing outside Morgan who is more like RM.
I was more concerned at the prospect of BB being at 15 with RM at 10. That has not worked and I suspect adding JB into the playmaking mix may complicate things too much.
Yeah I don't really see that JB would play more of a playmaking role than DH?
Still missing my point. I have no issue with JB being at 12 no matter how he plays. My issue is with RM at 10 if BB is at 15. Those two haven't worked out how to play well together.
No, you explicitly said adding JB into the playmaking mix may complicate things, which makes no sense when you consider the role DH plays.
Who knows, maybe JB at 12 may be the key to unlocking the RM/BB dysfunction?
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Has RTS lost his pace? I do wish he could've had a bit more "learnings" at centre or wing, would solve a problem or two.
I like the idea of Perofeta to fullback if JB to 12. Swap out Jordan for Reece - at least Clarke is trying, I'm sick of seeing Jordan watching on, there was more than one kick he could have put pressure on.
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@Crazy-Horse said in Bledisloe 2:
@Bones said in Bledisloe 2:
@Crazy-Horse said in Bledisloe 2:
@Crazy-Horse he's used to playing outside Morgan who is more like RM.
I was more concerned at the prospect of BB being at 15 with RM at 10. That has not worked and I suspect adding JB into the playmaking mix may complicate things too much.
Yeah I don't really see that JB would play more of a playmaking role than DH?
Still missing my point. I have no issue with JB being at 12 no matter how he plays. My issue is with RM at 10 if BB is at 15. Those two haven't worked out how to play well together.
No, you explicitly said adding JB into the playmaking mix may complicate things, which makes no sense when you consider the role DH plays.
Who knows, maybe JB at 12 may be the key to unlocking the RM/BB dysfunction?
@Bones said in Bledisloe 2:
@Crazy-Horse said in Bledisloe 2:
@Bones said in Bledisloe 2:
@Crazy-Horse said in Bledisloe 2:
@Crazy-Horse he's used to playing outside Morgan who is more like RM.
I was more concerned at the prospect of BB being at 15 with RM at 10. That has not worked and I suspect adding JB into the playmaking mix may complicate things too much.
Yeah I don't really see that JB would play more of a playmaking role than DH?
Still missing my point. I have no issue with JB being at 12 no matter how he plays. My issue is with RM at 10 if BB is at 15. Those two haven't worked out how to play well together.
No, you explicitly said adding JB into the playmaking mix may complicate things, which makes no sense when you consider the role DH plays.
Who knows, maybe JB at 12 may be the key to unlocking the RM/BB dysfunction?
Ok, you win.
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@Bones said in Bledisloe 2:
@Crazy-Horse said in Bledisloe 2:
@Bones said in Bledisloe 2:
@Crazy-Horse said in Bledisloe 2:
@Crazy-Horse he's used to playing outside Morgan who is more like RM.
I was more concerned at the prospect of BB being at 15 with RM at 10. That has not worked and I suspect adding JB into the playmaking mix may complicate things too much.
Yeah I don't really see that JB would play more of a playmaking role than DH?
Still missing my point. I have no issue with JB being at 12 no matter how he plays. My issue is with RM at 10 if BB is at 15. Those two haven't worked out how to play well together.
No, you explicitly said adding JB into the playmaking mix may complicate things, which makes no sense when you consider the role DH plays.
Who knows, maybe JB at 12 may be the key to unlocking the RM/BB dysfunction?
Ok, you win.
@Crazy-Horse said in Bledisloe 2:
@Bones said in Bledisloe 2:
@Crazy-Horse said in Bledisloe 2:
@Bones said in Bledisloe 2:
@Crazy-Horse said in Bledisloe 2:
@Crazy-Horse he's used to playing outside Morgan who is more like RM.
I was more concerned at the prospect of BB being at 15 with RM at 10. That has not worked and I suspect adding JB into the playmaking mix may complicate things too much.
Yeah I don't really see that JB would play more of a playmaking role than DH?
Still missing my point. I have no issue with JB being at 12 no matter how he plays. My issue is with RM at 10 if BB is at 15. Those two haven't worked out how to play well together.
No, you explicitly said adding JB into the playmaking mix may complicate things, which makes no sense when you consider the role DH plays.
Who knows, maybe JB at 12 may be the key to unlocking the RM/BB dysfunction?
Ok, you win.
So do the ABs.
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@Crazy-Horse said in Bledisloe 2:
@Bones said in Bledisloe 2:
@Crazy-Horse said in Bledisloe 2:
@Crazy-Horse he's used to playing outside Morgan who is more like RM.
I was more concerned at the prospect of BB being at 15 with RM at 10. That has not worked and I suspect adding JB into the playmaking mix may complicate things too much.
Yeah I don't really see that JB would play more of a playmaking role than DH?
Still missing my point. I have no issue with JB being at 12 no matter how he plays. My issue is with RM at 10 if BB is at 15. Those two haven't worked out how to play well together.
No, you explicitly said adding JB into the playmaking mix may complicate things, which makes no sense when you consider the role DH plays.
Who knows, maybe JB at 12 may be the key to unlocking the RM/BB dysfunction?
@Bones said in Bledisloe 2:
@Crazy-Horse said in Bledisloe 2:
@Bones said in Bledisloe 2:
@Crazy-Horse said in Bledisloe 2:
@Crazy-Horse he's used to playing outside Morgan who is more like RM.
I was more concerned at the prospect of BB being at 15 with RM at 10. That has not worked and I suspect adding JB into the playmaking mix may complicate things too much.
Yeah I don't really see that JB would play more of a playmaking role than DH?
Still missing my point. I have no issue with JB being at 12 no matter how he plays. My issue is with RM at 10 if BB is at 15. Those two haven't worked out how to play well together.
No, you explicitly said adding JB into the playmaking mix may complicate things, which makes no sense when you consider the role DH plays.
Who knows, maybe JB at 12 may be the key to unlocking the RM/BB dysfunction?
I hope so. Wouldn't that be something? We either have a shit D coach or lack leadership on defence. Snake used to boss the midfield, maybe JB can do it too?
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We should definitely persevere with Clarke, he's our only genuine power winger and he's making breaks on a regular basis which is gold at test level. His biggest work on is decision making after he's busted clear, which will come with experience.
Jordan was better in the last game, after the match he said he'd spoken to Enoka who had stressed that he should he looking for work all game if the ball isn't coming his way. He's definitely been guilty of waiting for the play instead of going searching for it. Reece is a player that you just can't keep out of the game in that respect, so I'd be pretty happy to see him given another crack on the wing.
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We should definitely persevere with Clarke, he's our only genuine power winger and he's making breaks on a regular basis which is gold at test level. His biggest work on is decision making after he's busted clear, which will come with experience.
Jordan was better in the last game, after the match he said he'd spoken to Enoka who had stressed that he should he looking for work all game if the ball isn't coming his way. He's definitely been guilty of waiting for the play instead of going searching for it. Reece is a player that you just can't keep out of the game in that respect, so I'd be pretty happy to see him given another crack on the wing.
@No-Quarter said in Bledisloe 2:
he's making breaks
My only gripe here...is he? He appears to be being put into space to me. He's not really a power winger, he's just a winger who's big.
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@No-Quarter said in Bledisloe 2:
he's making breaks
My only gripe here...is he? He appears to be being put into space to me. He's not really a power winger, he's just a winger who's big.
@Bones said in Bledisloe 2:
@No-Quarter said in Bledisloe 2:
he's making breaks
My only gripe here...is he? He appears to be being put into space to me. He's not really a power winger, he's just a winger who's big.
Unless he starts learning to link up or set a target to recycle, what's the point?
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@booboo said in Bledisloe 2:
@Crucial said in Bledisloe 2:
@Bovidae said in Bledisloe 2:
I think they'll favour Ennor over Fainga'anuku to provide cover at 12 and 13. It might be Reece and Ennor on the bench, with Jordan as fullback cover if BB has to go off. It's easier to slot someone on the wing than rearrange the midfield - again.
Why make it so complicated when there is only one spot to fill?
Upvote for the bold. But we will need to find a bench replacement too.
FC, BB and Reece.
@Crucial said in Bledisloe 2:
@booboo said in Bledisloe 2:
@Crucial said in Bledisloe 2:
@Bovidae said in Bledisloe 2:
I think they'll favour Ennor over Fainga'anuku to provide cover at 12 and 13. It might be Reece and Ennor on the bench, with Jordan as fullback cover if BB has to go off. It's easier to slot someone on the wing than rearrange the midfield - again.
Why make it so complicated when there is only one spot to fill?
Upvote for the bold. But we will need to find a bench replacement too.
FC, BB and Reece.
Leaves us short of midfield cover.
I'm thinking LF.
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@No-Quarter said in Bledisloe 2:
he's making breaks
My only gripe here...is he? He appears to be being put into space to me. He's not really a power winger, he's just a winger who's big.
@Bones said in Bledisloe 2:
@No-Quarter said in Bledisloe 2:
he's making breaks
My only gripe here...is he? He appears to be being put into space to me. He's not really a power winger, he's just a winger who's big.
He's knocked a couple of blokes out trying to tackle him this year! But yeah he probably hasn't busted through tackles like he did before he went to 7s, but he's got plenty of power and is not easy to tackle when he's got a head of steam up. He's also looking for work more than Jordan, hence him being in a position to take those passes and go through the gap at full speed.
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@Bones said in Bledisloe 2:
@No-Quarter said in Bledisloe 2:
he's making breaks
My only gripe here...is he? He appears to be being put into space to me. He's not really a power winger, he's just a winger who's big.
He's knocked a couple of blokes out trying to tackle him this year! But yeah he probably hasn't busted through tackles like he did before he went to 7s, but he's got plenty of power and is not easy to tackle when he's got a head of steam up. He's also looking for work more than Jordan, hence him being in a position to take those passes and go through the gap at full speed.
@No-Quarter said in Bledisloe 2:
not easy to tackle when he's got a head of steam up
Just needs to stop his propensity to go to ground before being tackled and he'll be a lot more dangerous.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Bledisloe 2:
@Bovidae said in Bledisloe 2:
@Victor-Meldrew Ennor will have to be on the bench as centre cover (and wing). He isn't an option at 2nd 5. If RTS doesn't start there is no point him being in the 23.
A JB at 12/BB at 15 combo has less risk than RTS at 12 - particularly if we want to keep the EP record.
Just a pity we haven't been able to blood newer players as much as we would have liked.
I don't see RTS as a risk.
And I question the need to play a 15 at 12 and a 10 at 15.
@booboo said in Bledisloe 2:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Bledisloe 2:
@Bovidae said in Bledisloe 2:
@Victor-Meldrew Ennor will have to be on the bench as centre cover (and wing). He isn't an option at 2nd 5. If RTS doesn't start there is no point him being in the 23.
A JB at 12/BB at 15 combo has less risk than RTS at 12 - particularly if we want to keep the EP record.
Just a pity we haven't been able to blood newer players as much as we would have liked.
I don't see RTS as a risk.
And I question the need to play a 15 at 12 and a 10 at 15.
DH was a 15 at 12.
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Just rewatched with more calm, and if Foster doen't put Jordie at 12 he's a fucking tool. Jordie has all the skills that Havili has, but is bigger and can actually hit the bloody line. Admitedly he needs to remember in tight to go lower than he would in backfield play, but he was bloody good.
Christie (Smith didn't run once, again), Mo'unga, CC (at least he's big & fast), Jordie, Ioane (prefer on the wing but this is where we are at), Reece, BB (he didn't fight for control bled 1)
