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  • canefanC canefan

    @number9 said in Foster:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:

    @number9 said in Foster:

    Foster is in charge of Media Relations, Jason Ryan and Schmidt are doing a great job coaching the ABs.

    So now when Foster's record doesn't look so bad, the head coach doesn't make any difference.

    Kinda blows the "Razor for Head AB Coach" argument out of the water, don't you think?

    Not at all. Foster is no genius the changes were mad because it was too expensive for the NZRU to sack him. Razor should be the Head Coach. Remember, Ryan was part of Razor's Team.
    Fozzie has a poor record at all levels. Simply put he is NOT.a Head Coach. Schmidt is proven and his influence is.noticeable. Facts!

    Fozz was stripped of his assistants except for McLeod.
    The new assistants appear to be responsible for the improvements because we are playing differently now. It feels like we are improving in spite of him, not because of him

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    Chris
    wrote on last edited by
    #3568

    @canefan said in Foster:

    @number9 said in Foster:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:

    @number9 said in Foster:

    Foster is in charge of Media Relations, Jason Ryan and Schmidt are doing a great job coaching the ABs.

    So now when Foster's record doesn't look so bad, the head coach doesn't make any difference.

    Kinda blows the "Razor for Head AB Coach" argument out of the water, don't you think?

    Not at all. Foster is no genius the changes were mad because it was too expensive for the NZRU to sack him. Razor should be the Head Coach. Remember, Ryan was part of Razor's Team.
    Fozzie has a poor record at all levels. Simply put he is NOT.a Head Coach. Schmidt is proven and his influence is.noticeable. Facts!

    Fozz was stripped of his assistants except for McLeod.
    The new assistants appear to be responsible for the improvements because we are playing differently now. It feels like we are improving in spite of him, not because of him

    100%

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    • boobooB booboo

      @Chris said in Foster:

      @DaGrubster said in Foster:

      @Chris

      Even great AB sides put in poor performances. Most of the time they would still win though!

      5 wins out of the last 11 is not too hot in my book.

      3 from 3
      4 from 5

      Lies, damned lies and statistics.

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      #3569

      @booboo said in Foster:

      @Chris said in Foster:

      @DaGrubster said in Foster:

      @Chris

      Even great AB sides put in poor performances. Most of the time they would still win though!

      5 wins out of the last 11 is not too hot in my book.

      3 from 3
      4 from 5

      Lies, damned lies and statistics.

      What a turnaround from the Supercoach !

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      • taniwharugbyT Offline
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        taniwharugby
        wrote on last edited by taniwharugby
        #3570

        we have had to witness, what I consider 2 of the very worst halves of rugby in AB history this season (T3 v Ireland, T1 v Argentina)

        There are still issues, sure kicking 2 of his assistants has helped tilt that balance back, and I think we will only get better from here, however, given how far we had fallen, will we be able to get back to a level that is good enough to win 3 tough test matches back to back?

        I still have massive issues with our defence too, seems to be the only part of our game that has not had a makeover in the past 5 or so years, and we have leaked so many easy points in the past years...sure opposition have gotten better, but our defence is so passive, unstructured and easily broken , how McLeod still has a job is beyond me.

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          Donsteppa
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          #3571

          The Chiefs often used to win every game in the second half of the season (usually in time to finish 5th) too 😉

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          • A ARHS

            @number9 said in Foster:

            Foster is no genius the changes were mad because it was too expensive for the NZRU to sack him

            Absolute rubbish. Nothing mad about reviewing all the coaching staff and seeking feedback from the players.

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            number9
            wrote on last edited by number9
            #3572

            @ARHS said in Foster:

            @number9 said in Foster:

            Foster is no genius the changes were mad because it was too expensive for the NZRU to sack him

            Absolute rubbish. Nothing mad about reviewing all the coaching staff and seeking feedback from the players.

            Mate the NZRU undertook a number of reviews because Fozz was failing. There was a restructure Fozzs original assistants, who he selected were replaced.

            The new guys have turned the team.around with the same playimg personnel. Get off the Fozzade. I am happy we are winning Schmidt and Ryan have given me the confidence that we will be competitive at the RWC.

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            • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

              @nostrildamus said in Foster:

              @booboo I'm sure Henry would love to have that sort of record against the ninth ranked team..

              The same team many here predicted would beat Foster's All Blacks to regain the Bledisloe and win at EP in Bled 2?

              (Asking for a friend)

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              nostrildamus
              wrote on last edited by nostrildamus
              #3573

              @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:

              @nostrildamus said in Foster:

              @booboo I'm sure Henry would love to have that sort of record against the ninth ranked team..

              The same team many here predicted would beat Foster's All Blacks to regain the Bledisloe and win at EP in Bled 2?

              (Asking for a friend)

              Many? Not my recollection. Care to provide a number/percentage?

              My point was Henry's team played against a far superior Wallabies. Care to disagree?

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              • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                we have had to witness, what I consider 2 of the very worst halves of rugby in AB history this season (T3 v Ireland, T1 v Argentina)

                There are still issues, sure kicking 2 of his assistants has helped tilt that balance back, and I think we will only get better from here, however, given how far we had fallen, will we be able to get back to a level that is good enough to win 3 tough test matches back to back?

                I still have massive issues with our defence too, seems to be the only part of our game that has not had a makeover in the past 5 or so years, and we have leaked so many easy points in the past years...sure opposition have gotten better, but our defence is so passive, unstructured and easily broken , how McLeod still has a job is beyond me.

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                canefan
                wrote on last edited by
                #3574

                @taniwharugby said in Foster:

                we have had to witness, what I consider 2 of the very worst halves of rugby in AB history this season (T3 v Ireland, T1 v Argentina)

                There are still issues, sure kicking 2 of his assistants has helped tilt that balance back, and I think we will only get better from here, however, given how far we had fallen, will we be able to get back to a level that is good enough to win 3 tough test matches back to back?

                I still have massive issues with our defence too, seems to be the only part of our game that has not had a makeover in the past 5 or so years, and we have leaked so many easy points in the past years...sure opposition have gotten better, but our defence is so passive, unstructured and easily broken , how McLeod still has a job is beyond me.

                Fire McLeod and install someone who knows shit to take us to the next level

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                • ChrisC Chris

                  @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:

                  @Chris said in Foster:

                  @DaGrubster said in Foster:

                  @Chris

                  Even great AB sides put in poor performances. Most of the time they would still win though!

                  5 wins out of the last 11 is not too hot in my book.

                  It's the direction that's important and what we've seen in the last 4-5 games it's a team which has completely transformed itself from the rabble that was Ireland 2 & 3.

                  Long way to go, but the omens are way, way better than they were a few months back.

                  Changing coaching seems to have worked then,I wonder how better we would have been if Foster had gone as well,The assistants seem to be turning it around not the HC.

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                  Crucial
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #3575

                  @Chris said in Foster:

                  @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:

                  @Chris said in Foster:

                  @DaGrubster said in Foster:

                  @Chris

                  Even great AB sides put in poor performances. Most of the time they would still win though!

                  5 wins out of the last 11 is not too hot in my book.

                  It's the direction that's important and what we've seen in the last 4-5 games it's a team which has completely transformed itself from the rabble that was Ireland 2 & 3.

                  Long way to go, but the omens are way, way better than they were a few months back.

                  Changing coaching seems to have worked then,I wonder how better we would have been if Foster had gone as well,The assistants seem to be turning it around not the HC.

                  I have a slightly different view.

                  Foster's biggest failing hasn't been his coaching ability it has been his loyalty/determination to fix underperformance by giving more chances than he should. That's been at player and coach level. I guess that's his nature.
                  When his hand is forced (even Sami T coming into the squad last year) he does a pretty good job of making things work in his area.
                  All the praise toward the backs from last night is being heaped on the players but it was Foster that took what he saw last week and gave them a totally different plan than we have seen recently to make the most of their talents.
                  He gets there in the end. Just wish that the journey didn't have so many wrong turns and dead ends.

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                  • CrucialC Crucial

                    @Chris said in Foster:

                    @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:

                    @Chris said in Foster:

                    @DaGrubster said in Foster:

                    @Chris

                    Even great AB sides put in poor performances. Most of the time they would still win though!

                    5 wins out of the last 11 is not too hot in my book.

                    It's the direction that's important and what we've seen in the last 4-5 games it's a team which has completely transformed itself from the rabble that was Ireland 2 & 3.

                    Long way to go, but the omens are way, way better than they were a few months back.

                    Changing coaching seems to have worked then,I wonder how better we would have been if Foster had gone as well,The assistants seem to be turning it around not the HC.

                    I have a slightly different view.

                    Foster's biggest failing hasn't been his coaching ability it has been his loyalty/determination to fix underperformance by giving more chances than he should. That's been at player and coach level. I guess that's his nature.
                    When his hand is forced (even Sami T coming into the squad last year) he does a pretty good job of making things work in his area.
                    All the praise toward the backs from last night is being heaped on the players but it was Foster that took what he saw last week and gave them a totally different plan than we have seen recently to make the most of their talents.
                    He gets there in the end. Just wish that the journey didn't have so many wrong turns and dead ends.

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                    Kirwan
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #3576

                    @Crucial yep. Clarke only got selected because Bridge was injured, despite being significantly the better player.

                    Same has happened again with JB at 12.

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                    • CrucialC Crucial

                      @Chris said in Foster:

                      @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:

                      @Chris said in Foster:

                      @DaGrubster said in Foster:

                      @Chris

                      Even great AB sides put in poor performances. Most of the time they would still win though!

                      5 wins out of the last 11 is not too hot in my book.

                      It's the direction that's important and what we've seen in the last 4-5 games it's a team which has completely transformed itself from the rabble that was Ireland 2 & 3.

                      Long way to go, but the omens are way, way better than they were a few months back.

                      Changing coaching seems to have worked then,I wonder how better we would have been if Foster had gone as well,The assistants seem to be turning it around not the HC.

                      I have a slightly different view.

                      Foster's biggest failing hasn't been his coaching ability it has been his loyalty/determination to fix underperformance by giving more chances than he should. That's been at player and coach level. I guess that's his nature.
                      When his hand is forced (even Sami T coming into the squad last year) he does a pretty good job of making things work in his area.
                      All the praise toward the backs from last night is being heaped on the players but it was Foster that took what he saw last week and gave them a totally different plan than we have seen recently to make the most of their talents.
                      He gets there in the end. Just wish that the journey didn't have so many wrong turns and dead ends.

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                      nostrildamus
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #3577

                      @Crucial said in Foster:

                      Foster's biggest failing hasn't been his coaching ability it has been his loyalty/determination to fix underperformance

                      Couldn't they be linked?

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                      • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                        @Crucial said in Foster:

                        Foster's biggest failing hasn't been his coaching ability it has been his loyalty/determination to fix underperformance

                        Couldn't they be linked?

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                        Crucial
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #3578

                        @nostrildamus said in Foster:

                        @Crucial said in Foster:

                        Foster's biggest failing hasn't been his coaching ability it has been his loyalty/determination to fix underperformance

                        Couldn't they be linked?

                        A lot has been personnel.

                        The props have been changed out, the number one hooker, the 10, the 12, Bridge....the assistants.

                        All examples where he hung on too long. Admittedly you can see the idea. Sometimes it works. The locks were being called as ready for pasture earlier in the year, Will Jordan went through a half dozen matches were he looked like he was making up the numbers, Havili got better and better but like Joseph Parker his ceiling has been established.

                        Some has been the coaching. Good forwards looked rubbish, the attack over thought and destined to fail.
                        I'm not absolving Foster entirely. Even the bits from his assistants he held the final say on.
                        In the last regime his actual technical coaching, especially in the backs was well appreciated by the players and they played well. I think we can see that happening again now he can concentrate there with decent support in the other areas.

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                        • Chris B.C Chris B.

                          @ARHS said in Foster:

                          NZRU might need to extend the trophy cabinet if Foster keeps securing silverware at this rate.

                          Going purely on results - if Fozzie had won one more against Ireland and beaten Argentina, I think most people would have been happy enough with the results this season in isolation.

                          2-1 vs Ireland and a shared series in SA vs the World Champions would have been acceptable.

                          The defeats coming on the back of the EOYT losses - and especially the manner of some of them where we were significantly outplayed put the cat among the pigeons.

                          I think we're definitely better for the coaching changes, but we've got a way to go before we're anything but outsiders for RWC.

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                          BartMan
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #3579

                          @Chris-B said in Foster:

                          @ARHS said in Foster:

                          NZRU might need to extend the trophy cabinet if Foster keeps securing silverware at this rate.

                          Going purely on results - if Fozzie had won one more against Ireland and beaten Argentina, I think most people would have been happy enough with the results this season in isolation.

                          2-1 vs Ireland and a shared series in SA vs the World Champions would have been acceptable.

                          The defeats coming on the back of the EOYT losses - and especially the manner of some of them where we were significantly outplayed put the cat among the pigeons.

                          I think we're definitely better for the coaching changes, but we've got a way to go before we're anything but outsiders for RWC.

                          Yes defeats when it never even looks like we're in with a chance of winning are foreign to AB fans of the last 2 decades. We usually lose because we run out of time, not because actually beaten! But in the last couple of seasons we've been beaten, fair and square!

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                            KiwiMurph
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #3580

                            Not a huge Foster fan but i'll give him credit in that the backs have improved since he's been more involved with them after Moaar got punted.

                            In addition he managed to get Schmidt and Ryan on board.

                            The last two home games of the season we've won a combined 93-17.

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                            • CrucialC Crucial

                              @Chris said in Foster:

                              @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:

                              @Chris said in Foster:

                              @DaGrubster said in Foster:

                              @Chris

                              Even great AB sides put in poor performances. Most of the time they would still win though!

                              5 wins out of the last 11 is not too hot in my book.

                              It's the direction that's important and what we've seen in the last 4-5 games it's a team which has completely transformed itself from the rabble that was Ireland 2 & 3.

                              Long way to go, but the omens are way, way better than they were a few months back.

                              Changing coaching seems to have worked then,I wonder how better we would have been if Foster had gone as well,The assistants seem to be turning it around not the HC.

                              I have a slightly different view.

                              Foster's biggest failing hasn't been his coaching ability it has been his loyalty/determination to fix underperformance by giving more chances than he should. That's been at player and coach level. I guess that's his nature.
                              When his hand is forced (even Sami T coming into the squad last year) he does a pretty good job of making things work in his area.
                              All the praise toward the backs from last night is being heaped on the players but it was Foster that took what he saw last week and gave them a totally different plan than we have seen recently to make the most of their talents.
                              He gets there in the end. Just wish that the journey didn't have so many wrong turns and dead ends.

                              ChrisC Online
                              ChrisC Online
                              Chris
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #3581

                              @Crucial said in Foster:

                              @Chris said in Foster:

                              @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:

                              @Chris said in Foster:

                              @DaGrubster said in Foster:

                              @Chris

                              Even great AB sides put in poor performances. Most of the time they would still win though!

                              5 wins out of the last 11 is not too hot in my book.

                              It's the direction that's important and what we've seen in the last 4-5 games it's a team which has completely transformed itself from the rabble that was Ireland 2 & 3.

                              Long way to go, but the omens are way, way better than they were a few months back.

                              Changing coaching seems to have worked then,I wonder how better we would have been if Foster had gone as well,The assistants seem to be turning it around not the HC.

                              I have a slightly different view.

                              Foster's biggest failing hasn't been his coaching ability it has been his loyalty/determination to fix underperformance by giving more chances than he should. That's been at player and coach level. I guess that's his nature.
                              When his hand is forced (even Sami T coming into the squad last year) he does a pretty good job of making things work in his area.
                              All the praise toward the backs from last night is being heaped on the players but it was Foster that took what he saw last week and gave them a totally different plan than we have seen recently to make the most of their talents.
                              He gets there in the end. Just wish that the journey didn't have so many wrong turns and dead ends.

                              Was it Foster who did that or Schmidt with the backs and Ryan with the forwards.

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                              • ChrisC Chris

                                @Crucial said in Foster:

                                @Chris said in Foster:

                                @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:

                                @Chris said in Foster:

                                @DaGrubster said in Foster:

                                @Chris

                                Even great AB sides put in poor performances. Most of the time they would still win though!

                                5 wins out of the last 11 is not too hot in my book.

                                It's the direction that's important and what we've seen in the last 4-5 games it's a team which has completely transformed itself from the rabble that was Ireland 2 & 3.

                                Long way to go, but the omens are way, way better than they were a few months back.

                                Changing coaching seems to have worked then,I wonder how better we would have been if Foster had gone as well,The assistants seem to be turning it around not the HC.

                                I have a slightly different view.

                                Foster's biggest failing hasn't been his coaching ability it has been his loyalty/determination to fix underperformance by giving more chances than he should. That's been at player and coach level. I guess that's his nature.
                                When his hand is forced (even Sami T coming into the squad last year) he does a pretty good job of making things work in his area.
                                All the praise toward the backs from last night is being heaped on the players but it was Foster that took what he saw last week and gave them a totally different plan than we have seen recently to make the most of their talents.
                                He gets there in the end. Just wish that the journey didn't have so many wrong turns and dead ends.

                                Was it Foster who did that or Schmidt with the backs and Ryan with the forwards.

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                                Crucial
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #3582

                                @Chris said in Foster:

                                @Crucial said in Foster:

                                @Chris said in Foster:

                                @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:

                                @Chris said in Foster:

                                @DaGrubster said in Foster:

                                @Chris

                                Even great AB sides put in poor performances. Most of the time they would still win though!

                                5 wins out of the last 11 is not too hot in my book.

                                It's the direction that's important and what we've seen in the last 4-5 games it's a team which has completely transformed itself from the rabble that was Ireland 2 & 3.

                                Long way to go, but the omens are way, way better than they were a few months back.

                                Changing coaching seems to have worked then,I wonder how better we would have been if Foster had gone as well,The assistants seem to be turning it around not the HC.

                                I have a slightly different view.

                                Foster's biggest failing hasn't been his coaching ability it has been his loyalty/determination to fix underperformance by giving more chances than he should. That's been at player and coach level. I guess that's his nature.
                                When his hand is forced (even Sami T coming into the squad last year) he does a pretty good job of making things work in his area.
                                All the praise toward the backs from last night is being heaped on the players but it was Foster that took what he saw last week and gave them a totally different plan than we have seen recently to make the most of their talents.
                                He gets there in the end. Just wish that the journey didn't have so many wrong turns and dead ends.

                                Was it Foster who did that or Schmidt with the backs and Ryan with the forwards.

                                I might be getting confused with all the chopping and changing but didn't Foster take over the attack?

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                                • CrucialC Crucial

                                  @Chris said in Foster:

                                  @Crucial said in Foster:

                                  @Chris said in Foster:

                                  @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:

                                  @Chris said in Foster:

                                  @DaGrubster said in Foster:

                                  @Chris

                                  Even great AB sides put in poor performances. Most of the time they would still win though!

                                  5 wins out of the last 11 is not too hot in my book.

                                  It's the direction that's important and what we've seen in the last 4-5 games it's a team which has completely transformed itself from the rabble that was Ireland 2 & 3.

                                  Long way to go, but the omens are way, way better than they were a few months back.

                                  Changing coaching seems to have worked then,I wonder how better we would have been if Foster had gone as well,The assistants seem to be turning it around not the HC.

                                  I have a slightly different view.

                                  Foster's biggest failing hasn't been his coaching ability it has been his loyalty/determination to fix underperformance by giving more chances than he should. That's been at player and coach level. I guess that's his nature.
                                  When his hand is forced (even Sami T coming into the squad last year) he does a pretty good job of making things work in his area.
                                  All the praise toward the backs from last night is being heaped on the players but it was Foster that took what he saw last week and gave them a totally different plan than we have seen recently to make the most of their talents.
                                  He gets there in the end. Just wish that the journey didn't have so many wrong turns and dead ends.

                                  Was it Foster who did that or Schmidt with the backs and Ryan with the forwards.

                                  I might be getting confused with all the chopping and changing but didn't Foster take over the attack?

                                  ChrisC Online
                                  ChrisC Online
                                  Chris
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #3583

                                  @Crucial said in Foster:

                                  @Chris said in Foster:

                                  @Crucial said in Foster:

                                  @Chris said in Foster:

                                  @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:

                                  @Chris said in Foster:

                                  @DaGrubster said in Foster:

                                  @Chris

                                  Even great AB sides put in poor performances. Most of the time they would still win though!

                                  5 wins out of the last 11 is not too hot in my book.

                                  It's the direction that's important and what we've seen in the last 4-5 games it's a team which has completely transformed itself from the rabble that was Ireland 2 & 3.

                                  Long way to go, but the omens are way, way better than they were a few months back.

                                  Changing coaching seems to have worked then,I wonder how better we would have been if Foster had gone as well,The assistants seem to be turning it around not the HC.

                                  I have a slightly different view.

                                  Foster's biggest failing hasn't been his coaching ability it has been his loyalty/determination to fix underperformance by giving more chances than he should. That's been at player and coach level. I guess that's his nature.
                                  When his hand is forced (even Sami T coming into the squad last year) he does a pretty good job of making things work in his area.
                                  All the praise toward the backs from last night is being heaped on the players but it was Foster that took what he saw last week and gave them a totally different plan than we have seen recently to make the most of their talents.
                                  He gets there in the end. Just wish that the journey didn't have so many wrong turns and dead ends.

                                  Was it Foster who did that or Schmidt with the backs and Ryan with the forwards.

                                  I might be getting confused with all the chopping and changing but didn't Foster take over the attack?

                                  Only for SA, Schmidt took over from the Argies tests and Foster stepped back again.

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                                  • ChrisC Chris

                                    @Crucial said in Foster:

                                    @Chris said in Foster:

                                    @Crucial said in Foster:

                                    @Chris said in Foster:

                                    @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:

                                    @Chris said in Foster:

                                    @DaGrubster said in Foster:

                                    @Chris

                                    Even great AB sides put in poor performances. Most of the time they would still win though!

                                    5 wins out of the last 11 is not too hot in my book.

                                    It's the direction that's important and what we've seen in the last 4-5 games it's a team which has completely transformed itself from the rabble that was Ireland 2 & 3.

                                    Long way to go, but the omens are way, way better than they were a few months back.

                                    Changing coaching seems to have worked then,I wonder how better we would have been if Foster had gone as well,The assistants seem to be turning it around not the HC.

                                    I have a slightly different view.

                                    Foster's biggest failing hasn't been his coaching ability it has been his loyalty/determination to fix underperformance by giving more chances than he should. That's been at player and coach level. I guess that's his nature.
                                    When his hand is forced (even Sami T coming into the squad last year) he does a pretty good job of making things work in his area.
                                    All the praise toward the backs from last night is being heaped on the players but it was Foster that took what he saw last week and gave them a totally different plan than we have seen recently to make the most of their talents.
                                    He gets there in the end. Just wish that the journey didn't have so many wrong turns and dead ends.

                                    Was it Foster who did that or Schmidt with the backs and Ryan with the forwards.

                                    I might be getting confused with all the chopping and changing but didn't Foster take over the attack?

                                    Only for SA, Schmidt took over from the Argies tests and Foster stepped back again.

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                                    @Chris said in Foster:

                                    @Crucial said in Foster:

                                    @Chris said in Foster:

                                    @Crucial said in Foster:

                                    @Chris said in Foster:

                                    @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:

                                    @Chris said in Foster:

                                    @DaGrubster said in Foster:

                                    @Chris

                                    Even great AB sides put in poor performances. Most of the time they would still win though!

                                    5 wins out of the last 11 is not too hot in my book.

                                    It's the direction that's important and what we've seen in the last 4-5 games it's a team which has completely transformed itself from the rabble that was Ireland 2 & 3.

                                    Long way to go, but the omens are way, way better than they were a few months back.

                                    Changing coaching seems to have worked then,I wonder how better we would have been if Foster had gone as well,The assistants seem to be turning it around not the HC.

                                    I have a slightly different view.

                                    Foster's biggest failing hasn't been his coaching ability it has been his loyalty/determination to fix underperformance by giving more chances than he should. That's been at player and coach level. I guess that's his nature.
                                    When his hand is forced (even Sami T coming into the squad last year) he does a pretty good job of making things work in his area.
                                    All the praise toward the backs from last night is being heaped on the players but it was Foster that took what he saw last week and gave them a totally different plan than we have seen recently to make the most of their talents.
                                    He gets there in the end. Just wish that the journey didn't have so many wrong turns and dead ends.

                                    Was it Foster who did that or Schmidt with the backs and Ryan with the forwards.

                                    I might be getting confused with all the chopping and changing but didn't Foster take over the attack?

                                    Only for SA, Schmidt took over from the Argies tests and Foster stepped back again.

                                    Last night they stopped all the back door passing and putting the loosies in the mix two out. It was very different.

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                                      [link text](link url) @Crucial https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2022/08/rugby-how-new-assistant-coach-joe-schmidt-can-help-transform-all-blacks.html

                                      from this article "Last week, Schmidt was officially promoted from his role as selector to assistant coach for the All Blacks, where he'll be primarily tasked with overseeing the team's attack".

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                                        @Crucial said in Foster:

                                        @Chris said in Foster:

                                        @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:

                                        @Chris said in Foster:

                                        @DaGrubster said in Foster:

                                        @Chris

                                        Even great AB sides put in poor performances. Most of the time they would still win though!

                                        5 wins out of the last 11 is not too hot in my book.

                                        It's the direction that's important and what we've seen in the last 4-5 games it's a team which has completely transformed itself from the rabble that was Ireland 2 & 3.

                                        Long way to go, but the omens are way, way better than they were a few months back.

                                        Changing coaching seems to have worked then,I wonder how better we would have been if Foster had gone as well,The assistants seem to be turning it around not the HC.

                                        I have a slightly different view.

                                        Foster's biggest failing hasn't been his coaching ability it has been his loyalty/determination to fix underperformance by giving more chances than he should. That's been at player and coach level. I guess that's his nature.
                                        When his hand is forced (even Sami T coming into the squad last year) he does a pretty good job of making things work in his area.
                                        All the praise toward the backs from last night is being heaped on the players but it was Foster that took what he saw last week and gave them a totally different plan than we have seen recently to make the most of their talents.
                                        He gets there in the end. Just wish that the journey didn't have so many wrong turns and dead ends.

                                        Was it Foster who did that or Schmidt with the backs and Ryan with the forwards.

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                                        @Chris said in Foster:

                                        @Crucial said in Foster:

                                        @Chris said in Foster:

                                        @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:

                                        @Chris said in Foster:

                                        @DaGrubster said in Foster:

                                        @Chris

                                        Even great AB sides put in poor performances. Most of the time they would still win though!

                                        5 wins out of the last 11 is not too hot in my book.

                                        It's the direction that's important and what we've seen in the last 4-5 games it's a team which has completely transformed itself from the rabble that was Ireland 2 & 3.

                                        Long way to go, but the omens are way, way better than they were a few months back.

                                        Changing coaching seems to have worked then,I wonder how better we would have been if Foster had gone as well,The assistants seem to be turning it around not the HC.

                                        I have a slightly different view.

                                        Foster's biggest failing hasn't been his coaching ability it has been his loyalty/determination to fix underperformance by giving more chances than he should. That's been at player and coach level. I guess that's his nature.
                                        When his hand is forced (even Sami T coming into the squad last year) he does a pretty good job of making things work in his area.
                                        All the praise toward the backs from last night is being heaped on the players but it was Foster that took what he saw last week and gave them a totally different plan than we have seen recently to make the most of their talents.
                                        He gets there in the end. Just wish that the journey didn't have so many wrong turns and dead ends.

                                        Was it Foster who did that or Schmidt with the backs and Ryan with the forwards.

                                        Foster has done jack all. Schmidt with the backs and Ryan with the forwards.

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                                          @Chris said in Foster:

                                          @Crucial said in Foster:

                                          @Chris said in Foster:

                                          @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:

                                          @Chris said in Foster:

                                          @DaGrubster said in Foster:

                                          @Chris

                                          Even great AB sides put in poor performances. Most of the time they would still win though!

                                          5 wins out of the last 11 is not too hot in my book.

                                          It's the direction that's important and what we've seen in the last 4-5 games it's a team which has completely transformed itself from the rabble that was Ireland 2 & 3.

                                          Long way to go, but the omens are way, way better than they were a few months back.

                                          Changing coaching seems to have worked then,I wonder how better we would have been if Foster had gone as well,The assistants seem to be turning it around not the HC.

                                          I have a slightly different view.

                                          Foster's biggest failing hasn't been his coaching ability it has been his loyalty/determination to fix underperformance by giving more chances than he should. That's been at player and coach level. I guess that's his nature.
                                          When his hand is forced (even Sami T coming into the squad last year) he does a pretty good job of making things work in his area.
                                          All the praise toward the backs from last night is being heaped on the players but it was Foster that took what he saw last week and gave them a totally different plan than we have seen recently to make the most of their talents.
                                          He gets there in the end. Just wish that the journey didn't have so many wrong turns and dead ends.

                                          Was it Foster who did that or Schmidt with the backs and Ryan with the forwards.

                                          Foster has done jack all. Schmidt with the backs and Ryan with the forwards.

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                                          @number9 said in Foster:

                                          @Chris said in Foster:

                                          @Crucial said in Foster:

                                          @Chris said in Foster:

                                          @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:

                                          @Chris said in Foster:

                                          @DaGrubster said in Foster:

                                          @Chris

                                          Even great AB sides put in poor performances. Most of the time they would still win though!

                                          5 wins out of the last 11 is not too hot in my book.

                                          It's the direction that's important and what we've seen in the last 4-5 games it's a team which has completely transformed itself from the rabble that was Ireland 2 & 3.

                                          Long way to go, but the omens are way, way better than they were a few months back.

                                          Changing coaching seems to have worked then,I wonder how better we would have been if Foster had gone as well,The assistants seem to be turning it around not the HC.

                                          I have a slightly different view.

                                          Foster's biggest failing hasn't been his coaching ability it has been his loyalty/determination to fix underperformance by giving more chances than he should. That's been at player and coach level. I guess that's his nature.
                                          When his hand is forced (even Sami T coming into the squad last year) he does a pretty good job of making things work in his area.
                                          All the praise toward the backs from last night is being heaped on the players but it was Foster that took what he saw last week and gave them a totally different plan than we have seen recently to make the most of their talents.
                                          He gets there in the end. Just wish that the journey didn't have so many wrong turns and dead ends.

                                          Was it Foster who did that or Schmidt with the backs and Ryan with the forwards.

                                          Foster has done jack all. Schmidt with the backs and Ryan with the forwards.

                                          Fact or opinion?

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