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Bovidae

That's bad news. Swain is even more of a piston wristed gibbon to me.

Edit: Swine might be a better word to use, as it was a pig move. :angry_face:

nostrildamus

@antipodean said in Bledisloe 2:

@Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe 2:

@Machpants said in Bledisloe 2:

Jeez that is fucken impressive, even against oz playing like tools

do we actually think Fozzie will look at that and consider him a 12 now, he just strikes me as too stubborn

Hopefully the performance was so clear the pressure internally will be to provide Jordie another outing to back up that performance. The ridicule from outside the camp would be enormous.

But I share your opinion.

the top team doesn't run out again for 6 weeks. Everyone will have forgotten by then in a beautiful case of "what have you done for me lately?"

Someone will play 12 against Japan and score 3 tries and will be anointed new saviour

I think you underestimate the Jordie Barrett White Knight Society!

Dan54

@Machpants said in Bledisloe 2:

@Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe 2:

@Machpants said in Bledisloe 2:

Jeez that is fucken impressive, even against oz playing like tools

do we actually think Fozzie will look at that and consider him a 12 now, he just strikes me as too stubborn

Considering all his changes away from preferred options so far have been due to injuries, or (in the case of coaches) forced on by outside pressure, he won't play him there.

Once he had chosen he sticks too long, and with those he hasn't chosen yet he flip flops all over the place. I hope I'm wrong

I wouldn't be surprised if Havili doesn't get another go at 12. Generally in ABs you don't lose spot because of injury. I was mightily impressed with Jordie on Saturday, but thought week before was more impressive as he was thrown in with no warning. I like the idea of him there because of the run,kick, and bust options he gives us, just also thought Havili was ok too. Jordie is sure to get a couple of runs during eEOYT I guess, and with a solid backline (not pussy Foley and co) hopefully he repeats performance.
I wouldn't be surprised if Mariner hasn't hit nail on head, RTS or someone will get a run against Japan and go well and we will be able to see him annointed as 12!!

nostrildamus

@Dan54 said in Bledisloe 2:

@Machpants said in Bledisloe 2:

@Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe 2:

@Machpants said in Bledisloe 2:

Jeez that is fucken impressive, even against oz playing like tools

do we actually think Fozzie will look at that and consider him a 12 now, he just strikes me as too stubborn

Considering all his changes away from preferred options so far have been due to injuries, or (in the case of coaches) forced on by outside pressure, he won't play him there.

Once he had chosen he sticks too long, and with those he hasn't chosen yet he flip flops all over the place. I hope I'm wrong

I wouldn't be surprised if Havili doesn't get another go at 12. Generally in ABs you don't lose spot because of injury. I was mightily impressed with Jordie on Saturday, but thought week before was more impressive as he was thrown in with no warning. I like the idea of him there because of the run,kick, and bust options he gives us, just also thought Havili was ok too. Jordie is sure to get a couple of runs during eEOYT I guess, and with a solid backline (not pussy Foley and co) hopefully he repeats performance.
I wouldn't be surprised if Mariner hasn't hit nail on head, RTS or someone will get a run against Japan and go well and we will be able to see him annointed as 12!!

I'd be surprised regards RTS-looks like a very raw project.

ACT Crusader

Jordie is a shoe in to start against Wales, Scotland and England.

So does Fozzie leave him at 2nd 5 for all or just a couple of those and have a scenario of perhaps Havili playing 12 against Japan and Wales and Jordie against Scotland and England?

Does Beaudie start at 10 against Japan and and then bench for Wales and then 15 for Scotland and England?

With ALB coming back you could give ALB 13 for Japan and partner with Havili. They played 5 times as a pairing last year against Wales, Boks, Oz and Fiji.

Kirwan

@ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe 2:

Jordie is a shoe in to start against Wales, Scotland and England.

So does Fozzie leave him at 2nd 5 for all or just a couple of those and have a scenario of perhaps Havili playing 12 against Japan and Wales and Jordie against Scotland and England?

Does Beaudie start at 10 against Japan and and then bench for Wales and then 15 for Scotland and England?

With ALB coming back you could give ALB 13 for Japan and partner with Havili. They played 5 times as a pairing last year against Wales, Boks, Oz and Fiji.

Surely they have to play Perofeta or Dmac at 10 against Japan? It's one of the few games were we can build depth.

taniwharugby

@ACT-Crusader guess it depends how proud Foster is on walking back his previous comments that he didn't see Joedie as a mid-fielder...

Dan54

@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe 2:

@ACT-Crusader guess it depends how proud Foster is on walking back his previous comments that he didn't see Joedie as a mid-fielder...

He has already said he thinks he may of had to rethink that, and really to be honest, I have not seen forums or papers fill of Jordie should be 12 either, although of course we all really knew it didn't we??:winking_face: :grinning_squinting_face:
Well I think I have been yelling for it!!

But I do think we will see him in a couple of tests at least as I said.

ACT Crusader

@Kirwan said in Bledisloe 2:

@ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe 2:

Jordie is a shoe in to start against Wales, Scotland and England.

So does Fozzie leave him at 2nd 5 for all or just a couple of those and have a scenario of perhaps Havili playing 12 against Japan and Wales and Jordie against Scotland and England?

Does Beaudie start at 10 against Japan and and then bench for Wales and then 15 for Scotland and England?

With ALB coming back you could give ALB 13 for Japan and partner with Havili. They played 5 times as a pairing last year against Wales, Boks, Oz and Fiji.

Surely they have to play Perofeta or Dmac at 10 against Japan? It's one of the few games were we can build depth.

What about Perofeta for the AB XV to start both matches? Bring DMac into the ABs for 10 and 15 cover.

Machpants

@ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe 2:

@Kirwan said in Bledisloe 2:

@ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe 2:

Jordie is a shoe in to start against Wales, Scotland and England.

So does Fozzie leave him at 2nd 5 for all or just a couple of those and have a scenario of perhaps Havili playing 12 against Japan and Wales and Jordie against Scotland and England?

Does Beaudie start at 10 against Japan and and then bench for Wales and then 15 for Scotland and England?

With ALB coming back you could give ALB 13 for Japan and partner with Havili. They played 5 times as a pairing last year against Wales, Boks, Oz and Fiji.

Surely they have to play Perofeta or Dmac at 10 against Japan? It's one of the few games were we can build depth.

What about Perofeta for the AB XV to start both matches? Bring DMac into the ABs for 10 and 15 cover.

Yeah, DMac doesn’t even need to play, just a dirt tracker getting back into the systems, there in case of emergency. RTS should go to XV, as he’s no where near at intl level, play him at 12 every match, he needs more time. Perofuture at 10, same thing every match. ALB to, with virtually no game time, play him 13 every match for XV. There’s f all game until RWC and NZ should maximise them all

TheMojoman

@Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:

And Darcy Swine will be back playing in November. :face_with_symbols_on_mouth:

Far out that's the worst news possible for Tupaea. Looks like one of the worst knee injuries one can have.

canefan

@TheMojoman said in All Blacks 2022:

@Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:

And Darcy Swine will be back playing in November. :face_with_symbols_on_mouth:

Far out that's the worst news possible for Tupaea. Looks like one of the worst knee injuries one can have.

A plague on Swain's house

ACT Crusader

@Machpants said in Bledisloe 2:

@ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe 2:

@Kirwan said in Bledisloe 2:

@ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe 2:

Jordie is a shoe in to start against Wales, Scotland and England.

So does Fozzie leave him at 2nd 5 for all or just a couple of those and have a scenario of perhaps Havili playing 12 against Japan and Wales and Jordie against Scotland and England?

Does Beaudie start at 10 against Japan and and then bench for Wales and then 15 for Scotland and England?

With ALB coming back you could give ALB 13 for Japan and partner with Havili. They played 5 times as a pairing last year against Wales, Boks, Oz and Fiji.

Surely they have to play Perofeta or Dmac at 10 against Japan? It's one of the few games were we can build depth.

What about Perofeta for the AB XV to start both matches? Bring DMac into the ABs for 10 and 15 cover.

Yeah, DMac doesn’t even need to play, just a dirt tracker getting back into the systems, there in case of emergency. RTS should go to XV, as he’s no where near at intl level, play him at 12 every match, he needs more time. Perofuture at 10, same thing every match. ALB to, with virtually no game time, play him 13 every match for XV. There’s f all game until RWC and NZ should maximise them all

Followed by headline - RTS signs 2 year deal with the Roosters

Victor Meldrew

@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:

Jordie is a shoe in to start against Wales, Scotland and England.

So does Fozzie leave him at 2nd 5 for all or just a couple of those and have a scenario of perhaps Havili playing 12 against Japan and Wales and Jordie against Scotland and England?

Think Foster will be obviously impressed by Jordie at 12 against Oz but that will be tempered by how good or bad he thinks the Oz team actually were - similar to how some on here have attributed the win to a weak opposition, rather that a good AB performance. Foster/Schmidt probably still see Havilli and Reiko as the top pairing until they see more of JB at 12 so wouldn't be surprised to see him there against Japan and one of Scotland or Wales before he's a shoe-in at 12 for Twickenham.

Does Beaudie start at 10 against Japan and and then bench for Wales and then 15 for Scotland and England?

I'd like to see either Perofeta or DMac. BB is a known quantity at 10.

With ALB coming back you could give ALB 13 for Japan and partner with Havili. They played 5 times as a pairing last year against Wales, Boks, Oz and Fiji.

That's a real conundrum. I'd want a fit and firing ALB in my starting team every time, but, with the current midfield permutations, where do you put him?

pakman

@canefan said in All Blacks 2022:

@TheMojoman said in All Blacks 2022:

@Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:

And Darcy Swine will be back playing in November. :face_with_symbols_on_mouth:

Far out that's the worst news possible for Tupaea. Looks like one of the worst knee injuries one can have.

A plague on Swain's house

Sty, surely?

pakman

@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:

Jordie is a shoe in to start against Wales, Scotland and England.

So does Fozzie leave him at 2nd 5 for all or just a couple of those and have a scenario of perhaps Havili playing 12 against Japan and Wales and Jordie against Scotland and England?

Think Foster will be obviously impressed by Jordie at 12 against Oz but that will be tempered by how good or bad he thinks the Oz team actually were - similar to how some on here have attributed the win to a weak opposition, rather that a good AB performance. Foster/Schmidt probably still see Havilli and Reiko as the top pairing until they see more of JB at 12 so wouldn't be surprised to see him there against Japan and one of Scotland or Wales before he's a shoe-in at 12 for Twickenham.

Does Beaudie start at 10 against Japan and and then bench for Wales and then 15 for Scotland and England?

I'd like to see either Perofeta or DMac. BB is a known quantity at 10.

With ALB coming back you could give ALB 13 for Japan and partner with Havili. They played 5 times as a pairing last year against Wales, Boks, Oz and Fiji.

That's a real conundrum. I'd want a fit and firing ALB in my starting team every time, but, with the current midfield permutations, where do you put him?

If Jordie used at 12, ALB to centre and Rieko to a wing.

Yeahtheboys

What are your guys current All Black halfback power rankings?

Curious as to how Weber has dropped so far out of contention.

Not sold on Fakatava

Hotham + Roigard playing well in NPC

Smith
Christie
Weber
Fakatava / Roigard
Perenara / Ratima / Roe

117th. TTT

Grooter

@Yeahtheboys I'll get back to you on that

ACT Crusader

@FakatavaAllBlack said in All Blacks 2022:

@Yeahtheboys I'll get back to you on that

Before you reply, don’t forget to remove the

Machpants

@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:

@Machpants said in Bledisloe 2:

@ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe 2:

@Kirwan said in Bledisloe 2:

@ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe 2:

Jordie is a shoe in to start against Wales, Scotland and England.

So does Fozzie leave him at 2nd 5 for all or just a couple of those and have a scenario of perhaps Havili playing 12 against Japan and Wales and Jordie against Scotland and England?

Does Beaudie start at 10 against Japan and and then bench for Wales and then 15 for Scotland and England?

With ALB coming back you could give ALB 13 for Japan and partner with Havili. They played 5 times as a pairing last year against Wales, Boks, Oz and Fiji.

Surely they have to play Perofeta or Dmac at 10 against Japan? It's one of the few games were we can build depth.

What about Perofeta for the AB XV to start both matches? Bring DMac into the ABs for 10 and 15 cover.

Yeah, DMac doesn’t even need to play, just a dirt tracker getting back into the systems, there in case of emergency. RTS should go to XV, as he’s no where near at intl level, play him at 12 every match, he needs more time. Perofuture at 10, same thing every match. ALB to, with virtually no game time, play him 13 every match for XV. There’s f all game until RWC and NZ should maximise them all

Followed by headline - RTS signs 2 year deal with the Roosters

Oh well, never mind. 5/6th choice 12 gone

The Silver Fern

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