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  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

    @ACT-Crusader guess it depends how proud Foster is on walking back his previous comments that he didn't see Joedie as a mid-fielder...

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    @taniwharugby said in Bledisloe 2:

    @ACT-Crusader guess it depends how proud Foster is on walking back his previous comments that he didn't see Joedie as a mid-fielder...

    He has already said he thinks he may of had to rethink that, and really to be honest, I have not seen forums or papers fill of Jordie should be 12 either, although of course we all really knew it didn't we??:winking_face: :grinning_squinting_face:
    Well I think I have been yelling for it!!🤣

    But I do think we will see him in a couple of tests at least as I said.

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    • KirwanK Kirwan

      @ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe 2:

      Jordie is a shoe in to start against Wales, Scotland and England.

      So does Fozzie leave him at 2nd 5 for all or just a couple of those and have a scenario of perhaps Havili playing 12 against Japan and Wales and Jordie against Scotland and England?

      Does Beaudie start at 10 against Japan and and then bench for Wales and then 15 for Scotland and England?

      With ALB coming back you could give ALB 13 for Japan and partner with Havili. They played 5 times as a pairing last year against Wales, Boks, Oz and Fiji.

      Surely they have to play Perofeta or Dmac at 10 against Japan? It's one of the few games were we can build depth.

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      #3909

      @Kirwan said in Bledisloe 2:

      @ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe 2:

      Jordie is a shoe in to start against Wales, Scotland and England.

      So does Fozzie leave him at 2nd 5 for all or just a couple of those and have a scenario of perhaps Havili playing 12 against Japan and Wales and Jordie against Scotland and England?

      Does Beaudie start at 10 against Japan and and then bench for Wales and then 15 for Scotland and England?

      With ALB coming back you could give ALB 13 for Japan and partner with Havili. They played 5 times as a pairing last year against Wales, Boks, Oz and Fiji.

      Surely they have to play Perofeta or Dmac at 10 against Japan? It's one of the few games were we can build depth.

      What about Perofeta for the AB XV to start both matches? Bring DMac into the ABs for 10 and 15 cover.

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      • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

        @Kirwan said in Bledisloe 2:

        @ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe 2:

        Jordie is a shoe in to start against Wales, Scotland and England.

        So does Fozzie leave him at 2nd 5 for all or just a couple of those and have a scenario of perhaps Havili playing 12 against Japan and Wales and Jordie against Scotland and England?

        Does Beaudie start at 10 against Japan and and then bench for Wales and then 15 for Scotland and England?

        With ALB coming back you could give ALB 13 for Japan and partner with Havili. They played 5 times as a pairing last year against Wales, Boks, Oz and Fiji.

        Surely they have to play Perofeta or Dmac at 10 against Japan? It's one of the few games were we can build depth.

        What about Perofeta for the AB XV to start both matches? Bring DMac into the ABs for 10 and 15 cover.

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        @ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe 2:

        @Kirwan said in Bledisloe 2:

        @ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe 2:

        Jordie is a shoe in to start against Wales, Scotland and England.

        So does Fozzie leave him at 2nd 5 for all or just a couple of those and have a scenario of perhaps Havili playing 12 against Japan and Wales and Jordie against Scotland and England?

        Does Beaudie start at 10 against Japan and and then bench for Wales and then 15 for Scotland and England?

        With ALB coming back you could give ALB 13 for Japan and partner with Havili. They played 5 times as a pairing last year against Wales, Boks, Oz and Fiji.

        Surely they have to play Perofeta or Dmac at 10 against Japan? It's one of the few games were we can build depth.

        What about Perofeta for the AB XV to start both matches? Bring DMac into the ABs for 10 and 15 cover.

        Yeah, DMac doesn’t even need to play, just a dirt tracker getting back into the systems, there in case of emergency. RTS should go to XV, as he’s no where near at intl level, play him at 12 every match, he needs more time. Perofuture at 10, same thing every match. ALB to, with virtually no game time, play him 13 every match for XV. There’s f all game until RWC and NZ should maximise them all

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        • StargazerS Stargazer

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          And Darcy Swine will be back playing in November. :face_with_symbols_on_mouth:

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          @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:

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          And Darcy Swine will be back playing in November. :face_with_symbols_on_mouth:

          Far out that's the worst news possible for Tupaea. Looks like one of the worst knee injuries one can have.

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          • TheMojomanT TheMojoman

            @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:

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            And Darcy Swine will be back playing in November. :face_with_symbols_on_mouth:

            Far out that's the worst news possible for Tupaea. Looks like one of the worst knee injuries one can have.

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            #3912

            @TheMojoman said in All Blacks 2022:

            @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:

            alt text


            And Darcy Swine will be back playing in November. :face_with_symbols_on_mouth:

            Far out that's the worst news possible for Tupaea. Looks like one of the worst knee injuries one can have.

            A plague on Swain's house

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            • M Machpants

              @ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe 2:

              @Kirwan said in Bledisloe 2:

              @ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe 2:

              Jordie is a shoe in to start against Wales, Scotland and England.

              So does Fozzie leave him at 2nd 5 for all or just a couple of those and have a scenario of perhaps Havili playing 12 against Japan and Wales and Jordie against Scotland and England?

              Does Beaudie start at 10 against Japan and and then bench for Wales and then 15 for Scotland and England?

              With ALB coming back you could give ALB 13 for Japan and partner with Havili. They played 5 times as a pairing last year against Wales, Boks, Oz and Fiji.

              Surely they have to play Perofeta or Dmac at 10 against Japan? It's one of the few games were we can build depth.

              What about Perofeta for the AB XV to start both matches? Bring DMac into the ABs for 10 and 15 cover.

              Yeah, DMac doesn’t even need to play, just a dirt tracker getting back into the systems, there in case of emergency. RTS should go to XV, as he’s no where near at intl level, play him at 12 every match, he needs more time. Perofuture at 10, same thing every match. ALB to, with virtually no game time, play him 13 every match for XV. There’s f all game until RWC and NZ should maximise them all

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              @Machpants said in Bledisloe 2:

              @ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe 2:

              @Kirwan said in Bledisloe 2:

              @ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe 2:

              Jordie is a shoe in to start against Wales, Scotland and England.

              So does Fozzie leave him at 2nd 5 for all or just a couple of those and have a scenario of perhaps Havili playing 12 against Japan and Wales and Jordie against Scotland and England?

              Does Beaudie start at 10 against Japan and and then bench for Wales and then 15 for Scotland and England?

              With ALB coming back you could give ALB 13 for Japan and partner with Havili. They played 5 times as a pairing last year against Wales, Boks, Oz and Fiji.

              Surely they have to play Perofeta or Dmac at 10 against Japan? It's one of the few games were we can build depth.

              What about Perofeta for the AB XV to start both matches? Bring DMac into the ABs for 10 and 15 cover.

              Yeah, DMac doesn’t even need to play, just a dirt tracker getting back into the systems, there in case of emergency. RTS should go to XV, as he’s no where near at intl level, play him at 12 every match, he needs more time. Perofuture at 10, same thing every match. ALB to, with virtually no game time, play him 13 every match for XV. There’s f all game until RWC and NZ should maximise them all

              Followed by headline - RTS signs 2 year deal with the Roosters 😉

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              • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                Jordie is a shoe in to start against Wales, Scotland and England.

                So does Fozzie leave him at 2nd 5 for all or just a couple of those and have a scenario of perhaps Havili playing 12 against Japan and Wales and Jordie against Scotland and England?

                Does Beaudie start at 10 against Japan and and then bench for Wales and then 15 for Scotland and England?

                With ALB coming back you could give ALB 13 for Japan and partner with Havili. They played 5 times as a pairing last year against Wales, Boks, Oz and Fiji.

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                #3914

                @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:

                Jordie is a shoe in to start against Wales, Scotland and England.

                So does Fozzie leave him at 2nd 5 for all or just a couple of those and have a scenario of perhaps Havili playing 12 against Japan and Wales and Jordie against Scotland and England?

                Think Foster will be obviously impressed by Jordie at 12 against Oz but that will be tempered by how good or bad he thinks the Oz team actually were - similar to how some on here have attributed the win to a weak opposition, rather that a good AB performance. Foster/Schmidt probably still see Havilli and Reiko as the top pairing until they see more of JB at 12 so wouldn't be surprised to see him there against Japan and one of Scotland or Wales before he's a shoe-in at 12 for Twickenham.

                Does Beaudie start at 10 against Japan and and then bench for Wales and then 15 for Scotland and England?

                I'd like to see either Perofeta or DMac. BB is a known quantity at 10.

                With ALB coming back you could give ALB 13 for Japan and partner with Havili. They played 5 times as a pairing last year against Wales, Boks, Oz and Fiji.

                That's a real conundrum. I'd want a fit and firing ALB in my starting team every time, but, with the current midfield permutations, where do you put him?

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                • canefanC canefan

                  @TheMojoman said in All Blacks 2022:

                  @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:

                  alt text


                  And Darcy Swine will be back playing in November. :face_with_symbols_on_mouth:

                  Far out that's the worst news possible for Tupaea. Looks like one of the worst knee injuries one can have.

                  A plague on Swain's house

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                  @canefan said in All Blacks 2022:

                  @TheMojoman said in All Blacks 2022:

                  @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:

                  alt text


                  And Darcy Swine will be back playing in November. :face_with_symbols_on_mouth:

                  Far out that's the worst news possible for Tupaea. Looks like one of the worst knee injuries one can have.

                  A plague on Swain's house

                  Sty, surely?

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                  • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:

                    Jordie is a shoe in to start against Wales, Scotland and England.

                    So does Fozzie leave him at 2nd 5 for all or just a couple of those and have a scenario of perhaps Havili playing 12 against Japan and Wales and Jordie against Scotland and England?

                    Think Foster will be obviously impressed by Jordie at 12 against Oz but that will be tempered by how good or bad he thinks the Oz team actually were - similar to how some on here have attributed the win to a weak opposition, rather that a good AB performance. Foster/Schmidt probably still see Havilli and Reiko as the top pairing until they see more of JB at 12 so wouldn't be surprised to see him there against Japan and one of Scotland or Wales before he's a shoe-in at 12 for Twickenham.

                    Does Beaudie start at 10 against Japan and and then bench for Wales and then 15 for Scotland and England?

                    I'd like to see either Perofeta or DMac. BB is a known quantity at 10.

                    With ALB coming back you could give ALB 13 for Japan and partner with Havili. They played 5 times as a pairing last year against Wales, Boks, Oz and Fiji.

                    That's a real conundrum. I'd want a fit and firing ALB in my starting team every time, but, with the current midfield permutations, where do you put him?

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                    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

                    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:

                    Jordie is a shoe in to start against Wales, Scotland and England.

                    So does Fozzie leave him at 2nd 5 for all or just a couple of those and have a scenario of perhaps Havili playing 12 against Japan and Wales and Jordie against Scotland and England?

                    Think Foster will be obviously impressed by Jordie at 12 against Oz but that will be tempered by how good or bad he thinks the Oz team actually were - similar to how some on here have attributed the win to a weak opposition, rather that a good AB performance. Foster/Schmidt probably still see Havilli and Reiko as the top pairing until they see more of JB at 12 so wouldn't be surprised to see him there against Japan and one of Scotland or Wales before he's a shoe-in at 12 for Twickenham.

                    Does Beaudie start at 10 against Japan and and then bench for Wales and then 15 for Scotland and England?

                    I'd like to see either Perofeta or DMac. BB is a known quantity at 10.

                    With ALB coming back you could give ALB 13 for Japan and partner with Havili. They played 5 times as a pairing last year against Wales, Boks, Oz and Fiji.

                    That's a real conundrum. I'd want a fit and firing ALB in my starting team every time, but, with the current midfield permutations, where do you put him?

                    If Jordie used at 12, ALB to centre and Rieko to a wing.

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                      Yeahtheboys
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                      #3917

                      What are your guys current All Black halfback power rankings?

                      Curious as to how Weber has dropped so far out of contention.

                      Not sold on Fakatava

                      Hotham + Roigard playing well in NPC

                      1. Smith
                      2. Christie
                      3. Weber
                      4. Fakatava / Roigard
                      5. Perenara / Ratima / Roe

                      117th. TTT

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                      • Y Yeahtheboys

                        What are your guys current All Black halfback power rankings?

                        Curious as to how Weber has dropped so far out of contention.

                        Not sold on Fakatava

                        Hotham + Roigard playing well in NPC

                        1. Smith
                        2. Christie
                        3. Weber
                        4. Fakatava / Roigard
                        5. Perenara / Ratima / Roe

                        117th. TTT

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                        Grooter
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                        @Yeahtheboys I'll get back to you on that 👍

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                        • GrooterG Grooter

                          @Yeahtheboys I'll get back to you on that 👍

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                          @FakatavaAllBlack said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @Yeahtheboys I'll get back to you on that 👍

                          Before you reply, don’t forget to remove the

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                          • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                            @Machpants said in Bledisloe 2:

                            @ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe 2:

                            @Kirwan said in Bledisloe 2:

                            @ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe 2:

                            Jordie is a shoe in to start against Wales, Scotland and England.

                            So does Fozzie leave him at 2nd 5 for all or just a couple of those and have a scenario of perhaps Havili playing 12 against Japan and Wales and Jordie against Scotland and England?

                            Does Beaudie start at 10 against Japan and and then bench for Wales and then 15 for Scotland and England?

                            With ALB coming back you could give ALB 13 for Japan and partner with Havili. They played 5 times as a pairing last year against Wales, Boks, Oz and Fiji.

                            Surely they have to play Perofeta or Dmac at 10 against Japan? It's one of the few games were we can build depth.

                            What about Perofeta for the AB XV to start both matches? Bring DMac into the ABs for 10 and 15 cover.

                            Yeah, DMac doesn’t even need to play, just a dirt tracker getting back into the systems, there in case of emergency. RTS should go to XV, as he’s no where near at intl level, play him at 12 every match, he needs more time. Perofuture at 10, same thing every match. ALB to, with virtually no game time, play him 13 every match for XV. There’s f all game until RWC and NZ should maximise them all

                            Followed by headline - RTS signs 2 year deal with the Roosters 😉

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                            @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:

                            @Machpants said in Bledisloe 2:

                            @ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe 2:

                            @Kirwan said in Bledisloe 2:

                            @ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe 2:

                            Jordie is a shoe in to start against Wales, Scotland and England.

                            So does Fozzie leave him at 2nd 5 for all or just a couple of those and have a scenario of perhaps Havili playing 12 against Japan and Wales and Jordie against Scotland and England?

                            Does Beaudie start at 10 against Japan and and then bench for Wales and then 15 for Scotland and England?

                            With ALB coming back you could give ALB 13 for Japan and partner with Havili. They played 5 times as a pairing last year against Wales, Boks, Oz and Fiji.

                            Surely they have to play Perofeta or Dmac at 10 against Japan? It's one of the few games were we can build depth.

                            What about Perofeta for the AB XV to start both matches? Bring DMac into the ABs for 10 and 15 cover.

                            Yeah, DMac doesn’t even need to play, just a dirt tracker getting back into the systems, there in case of emergency. RTS should go to XV, as he’s no where near at intl level, play him at 12 every match, he needs more time. Perofuture at 10, same thing every match. ALB to, with virtually no game time, play him 13 every match for XV. There’s f all game until RWC and NZ should maximise them all

                            Followed by headline - RTS signs 2 year deal with the Roosters 😉

                            Oh well, never mind. 5/6th choice 12 gone

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                            • Y Yeahtheboys

                              What are your guys current All Black halfback power rankings?

                              Curious as to how Weber has dropped so far out of contention.

                              Not sold on Fakatava

                              Hotham + Roigard playing well in NPC

                              1. Smith
                              2. Christie
                              3. Weber
                              4. Fakatava / Roigard
                              5. Perenara / Ratima / Roe

                              117th. TTT

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                              #3921

                              @Yeahtheboys said in All Blacks 2022:

                              What are your guys current All Black halfback power rankings?

                              Curious as to how Weber has dropped so far out of contention.

                              Not sold on Fakatava

                              Hotham + Roigard playing well in NPC

                              1. Smith
                              2. Christie
                              3. Weber
                              4. Fakatava / Roigard
                              5. Perenara / Ratima / Roe

                              117th. TTT

                              I would maybe swap Christie and Weber, just personally I not sold on Christie.

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                                #3922

                                It's a tough one. Weber would be fantastic as a leader for the AB XV, but I also think he deserves the callup to the top side; also Christie might benefit from more gametime by playing with the XV.

                                Who are the potential captains for the AB XV?

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                                  It's a tough one. Weber would be fantastic as a leader for the AB XV, but I also think he deserves the callup to the top side; also Christie might benefit from more gametime by playing with the XV.

                                  Who are the potential captains for the AB XV?

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                                  @Frye I would imagine they're probably looking at Jacobson.

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                                  • TheMojomanT TheMojoman

                                    @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:

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                                    And Darcy Swine will be back playing in November. :face_with_symbols_on_mouth:

                                    Far out that's the worst news possible for Tupaea. Looks like one of the worst knee injuries one can have.

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                                    @TheMojoman

                                    Yes, it is the worst injury you can have as a pro sportsman.

                                    Going by the wording, it doesn’t seem as though it is a torn ACL, which would be the worst outcome for him.

                                    9 months is typical though for a torn ACL and it takes some time for a player to regain speed when they return to play.

                                    Given his age, experience and the current stage of development he is at. It is disastrous for him.

                                    He wont really be in a position to go to the RWC and be at his best.

                                    He should lawyer up and sue Swain.

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                                    • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                      Jordie is a shoe in to start against Wales, Scotland and England.

                                      So does Fozzie leave him at 2nd 5 for all or just a couple of those and have a scenario of perhaps Havili playing 12 against Japan and Wales and Jordie against Scotland and England?

                                      Does Beaudie start at 10 against Japan and and then bench for Wales and then 15 for Scotland and England?

                                      With ALB coming back you could give ALB 13 for Japan and partner with Havili. They played 5 times as a pairing last year against Wales, Boks, Oz and Fiji.

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                                      @ACT-Crusader

                                      Yes I think he is a shoe in as well. Especially when you consider how ineffectual Havilli was against France/SA last year.

                                      I will be massively surprised if Jordie is not at 12 against the big NH teams later this year

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                                        @ACT-Crusader

                                        Yes I think he is a shoe in as well. Especially when you consider how ineffectual Havilli was against France/SA last year.

                                        I will be massively surprised if Jordie is not at 12 against the big NH teams later this year

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                                        @DaGrubster said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        Especially when you consider how ineffectual Havilli most of the team was against France/SA last year.

                                        FIFY

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                                        • Y Yeahtheboys

                                          What are your guys current All Black halfback power rankings?

                                          Curious as to how Weber has dropped so far out of contention.

                                          Not sold on Fakatava

                                          Hotham + Roigard playing well in NPC

                                          1. Smith
                                          2. Christie
                                          3. Weber
                                          4. Fakatava / Roigard
                                          5. Perenara / Ratima / Roe

                                          117th. TTT

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                                          @Yeahtheboys said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          What are your guys current All Black halfback power rankings?

                                          Curious as to how Weber has dropped so far out of contention.

                                          Not sold on Fakatava

                                          Hotham + Roigard playing well in NPC

                                          1. Smith
                                          2. Christie
                                          3. Weber
                                          4. Fakatava / Roigard
                                          5. Perenara / Ratima / Roe

                                          117th. TTT

                                          Pretty much agree there. Weber and Christie close. Think Ratima has lost form lately. Else spot on.

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