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All Blacks XV 2022

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  • MN5M MN5

    @Crucial said in All Blacks XV:

    @MN5 said in All Blacks XV:

    Misprint at 14 ? Smokin Joe was well and truly the AB incumbent then wasn’t he or did Howlett, Sivi and my least favourite Gear brother have the inside running for awhile ?

    Waikato No 8 Steven Bates will captain an extended Junior All Blacks squad of 29 named today for a three-match tour of Australia later this month.

    The squad includes Bates' Waikato teammate Marty Holah, one of the unluckiest to miss All Blacks selection after his storming game for New Zealand Maori against the Lions last night.

    Holah was one of 18 recent All Blacks included -- notably wing Joe Rokocoko who lost out to Sitiveni Sivivatu in the All Blacks squad.

    Squad:
    John Afoa – Auckland
    Sosene Anesi – Waikato
    Ben Atiga – Auckland
    Steve Bates – Waikato (captain)
    Josh Blackie – Otago
    Ben Castle – Bay of Plenty
    Jimmy Cowan – Southland
    Clarke Dermody – Southland
    Steve Devine – Auckland
    Stephen Donald – Waikato
    Nick Evans – Otago
    Corey Flynn – Canterbury
    Scott Hamilton – Canterbury
    David Hill – Waikato
    Carl Hoeft – Otago
    Marty Holah – Waikato
    Andrew Hore – Taranaki
    Jerome Kaino – Auckland
    Ross Kennedy – Wellington
    Casey Laulala – Canterbury
    Chris Masoe – Taranaki
    Luke McAlister - North Harbour
    Craig Newby - North Harbour
    Kevin O'Neill – Canterbury
    Caleb Ralph – Canterbury
    Joe Rokocoko – Auckland
    Saimone Taumoepeau – Auckland
    Bernie Upton - Bay of Plenty
    Piri Weepu – Wellington

    Right. Had completely forgotten about that. Henry didn’t think the NZ public could have possibly tolerated two Fijians on the wing.

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    @MN5 for the Lions squad he went with Sivi, Howlett and Gear.

    Rok played for Auckland in that close loss against BIL.

    Rok was back in the ABs for the 2005 3Ns though where he played all 4 matches (started 3 on the left wing).

    He went on the EOYT also.

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      #385

      Howlett
      Rokocoko
      Sivivatu
      Gear
      Muliaina

      That was incredible depth.

      Henry was pretty ruthless, especially in his first four years.

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      • TimT Tim

        Howlett
        Rokocoko
        Sivivatu
        Gear
        Muliaina

        That was incredible depth.

        Henry was pretty ruthless, especially in his first four years.

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        #386

        @Tim said in All Blacks XV:

        Howlett
        Rokocoko
        Sivivatu
        Gear
        Muliaina

        That was incredible depth.

        Henry was pretty ruthless, especially in his first four years.

        @Tim said in All Blacks XV:

        Howlett
        Rokocoko
        Sivivatu
        Gear
        Muliaina

        That was incredible depth.

        Henry was pretty ruthless, especially in his first four years.

        That’s after he’d jettisoned Caleb too.

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        • CrucialC Crucial

          Just a side piece here as I was cleaning out some books and stuff the other day and came across this programme from the 2005 JABs v Oz A game.
          Interesting set of players and coaches. Can't remember the circumstances for all the players but it looks like the selectors had it mostly right.

          235C953F-2CB8-4FEE-84B3-E654EEFBDA21.jpeg

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          @Crucial said in All Blacks XV:

          235C953F-2CB8-4FEE-84B3-E654EEFBDA21.jpeg

          By my count only Upton, Kennedy and Blackie that weren’t ABs or went on to be ABs.

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          • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

            @Crucial said in All Blacks XV:

            235C953F-2CB8-4FEE-84B3-E654EEFBDA21.jpeg

            By my count only Upton, Kennedy and Blackie that weren’t ABs or went on to be ABs.

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            @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks XV:

            @Crucial said in All Blacks XV:

            235C953F-2CB8-4FEE-84B3-E654EEFBDA21.jpeg

            By my count only Upton, Kennedy and Blackie that weren’t ABs or went on to be ABs.

            Which is rough cos they all lost out to inferior players at various times ( which I guess you could say about lots of NZ players )

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            • TimT Tim

              Howlett
              Rokocoko
              Sivivatu
              Gear
              Muliaina

              That was incredible depth.

              Henry was pretty ruthless, especially in his first four years.

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              @Tim said in All Blacks XV:

              Howlett
              Rokocoko
              Sivivatu
              Gear
              Muliaina

              That was incredible depth.

              Henry was pretty ruthless, especially in his first four years.

              Add to them, there were a host of others that started on the wing during the Henry era

              Kahui
              Jane
              SBW
              Dagg
              Guildford
              Toeava
              Hosea
              Hamilton
              Wulf
              Tuitavake
              Masaga

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                Found this 2009 Junior ABs team

                15 Israel Dagg
                14 Rene Ranger
                13 Anthony Tuitavake
                12 Tamati Ellison (c)
                11 Hosea Gear
                10 Colin Slade
                9 Chris Smylie
                8 Victor Vito
                7 George Whitelock
                6 Jason Eaton
                5 Tom Donnelly
                4 Jeremy Thrush
                3 Ben Franks
                2 Aled de Malmanche
                1 Jacob Ellison

                16 John Schwalger
                17 Hika Elliot
                18 Craig Clarke
                19 Alando Soakai
                20 Sean Romans
                21 Stephen Brett
                22 Ryan Crotty

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                • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                  Found this 2009 Junior ABs team

                  15 Israel Dagg
                  14 Rene Ranger
                  13 Anthony Tuitavake
                  12 Tamati Ellison (c)
                  11 Hosea Gear
                  10 Colin Slade
                  9 Chris Smylie
                  8 Victor Vito
                  7 George Whitelock
                  6 Jason Eaton
                  5 Tom Donnelly
                  4 Jeremy Thrush
                  3 Ben Franks
                  2 Aled de Malmanche
                  1 Jacob Ellison

                  16 John Schwalger
                  17 Hika Elliot
                  18 Craig Clarke
                  19 Alando Soakai
                  20 Sean Romans
                  21 Stephen Brett
                  22 Ryan Crotty

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                  @ACT-Crusader not quite as prophetic, that one.

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                  • CrucialC Crucial

                    @ACT-Crusader not quite as prophetic, that one.

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                    #392

                    @Crucial said in All Blacks XV:

                    @ACT-Crusader not quite as prophetic, that one.

                    Other players that I could find that were in that squad:

                    Robbie Fruean, Sione Lauaki, James McGougan, Ged Robinson, Karl Lowe

                    Luke MacAllister was originally named in this squad but was moved to the ABs when Kahui was ruled out injured (surprise surprise…)

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                    • CrucialC Crucial

                      @Dan54 said in All Blacks XV:

                      Anyway we know that 2 have been named in DMac and Angus Ta'avao (if he feels ok).
                      Interesting to hear Fozzie saying a couple of ABs will drop back and get some game time with them.

                      Vaa'i and RTS the likely ones there. Possibly LF as well.

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                      @Crucial said in All Blacks XV:

                      @Dan54 said in All Blacks XV:

                      Anyway we know that 2 have been named in DMac and Angus Ta'avao (if he feels ok).
                      Interesting to hear Fozzie saying a couple of ABs will drop back and get some game time with them.

                      Vaa'i and RTS the likely ones there. Possibly LF as well.

                      Different ones for different games - all of those three, but I can also see any or all of Newell, Papalií, Sotutu, Fakatava,, Perofeta, Ennor, ALB and Reece getting a run for the 2nd XV.

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                        I presume this squad will have plenty of recent AB's in it: Hodgman, Aumua, Ta'avao, Tuipulotu, Jacobson, McKenzie etc etc

                        Any recent AB's that in danger of missing both squads? One of the older halfbacks? Josh Ioane?

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                        • DuluthD Duluth

                          I presume this squad will have plenty of recent AB's in it: Hodgman, Aumua, Ta'avao, Tuipulotu, Jacobson, McKenzie etc etc

                          Any recent AB's that in danger of missing both squads? One of the older halfbacks? Josh Ioane?

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                          Bovidae
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                          @Duluth It will be interesting to see if Sowakula is named.

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                            I'd be surprised to see Josh Ioane or George Bridge.

                            Sowakula and TJP will be interesting.

                            Is Peter U-J available? Even if he is he's doubtful.

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                            • DuluthD Duluth

                              I presume this squad will have plenty of recent AB's in it: Hodgman, Aumua, Ta'avao, Tuipulotu, Jacobson, McKenzie etc etc

                              Any recent AB's that in danger of missing both squads? One of the older halfbacks? Josh Ioane?

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                              @Duluth said in All Blacks XV:

                              Ta'avao

                              Hope he's available, he looked pretty rough on Friday.

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                                First and Second Five will be interesting. DMac is the only certainty among that lot. Any potential bolters in the midfield?

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                                • TimT Tim

                                  @Duluth said in All Blacks XV:

                                  Ta'avao

                                  Hope he's available, he looked pretty rough on Friday.

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                                  @Tim said in All Blacks XV:

                                  @Duluth said in All Blacks XV:

                                  Ta'avao

                                  Hope he's available, he looked pretty rough on Friday.

                                  TH prop options are thin if Ta'avao isn't available. I wonder if Tevita Mafileo is looked at. He can also play at LH.

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                                    When is this team named?

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                                    • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                      Found this 2009 Junior ABs team

                                      15 Israel Dagg
                                      14 Rene Ranger
                                      13 Anthony Tuitavake
                                      12 Tamati Ellison (c)
                                      11 Hosea Gear
                                      10 Colin Slade
                                      9 Chris Smylie
                                      8 Victor Vito
                                      7 George Whitelock
                                      6 Jason Eaton
                                      5 Tom Donnelly
                                      4 Jeremy Thrush
                                      3 Ben Franks
                                      2 Aled de Malmanche
                                      1 Jacob Ellison

                                      16 John Schwalger
                                      17 Hika Elliot
                                      18 Craig Clarke
                                      19 Alando Soakai
                                      20 Sean Romans
                                      21 Stephen Brett
                                      22 Ryan Crotty

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                                      @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks XV:

                                      20 Sean Romans

                                      Who?

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                                        I don't think bolters happen in pro rugby. There are some players who haven't been talked about much though

                                        Suafoa as a tight loose forward who can cover lock?

                                        There's half a dozen good options at halfback. Funaki is someone MacDonald rates and he's had a strong season for Auckland.

                                        Positions most likely to get surprising selections? Lock & midfield?

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                                        • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                          When is this team named?

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                                          @Canes4life 4pm

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