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All Blacks XV 2022

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    family man
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    #486

    Wow. Big surprise for me is no hodgeman ,pita gus sawakula and no umaga jenson brothers .
    Also I like the fact that Levi aumua is picked ,I’ve been very impressed with him and Ruben love is going to be some player

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    • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

      @taniwharugby said in All Blacks XV:

      @SouthernMann said in All Blacks XV:

      I just feel sorry for big Pita Gus!

      yep, he never looked like a long term AB, and was in poor form when selected, I had similar misgivings when Seta Tamanivalu was selected for his handful of tests.

      TBF though, I think wanted to represent NZ over Fiji, but still shit situation for him.

      thats fair, i think this selection just highlights the poor decision they made early in the year rather than this being particularly surprising or bad

      whole international career down to 25 mins over 2 games including a try

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      @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks XV:

      @taniwharugby said in All Blacks XV:

      @SouthernMann said in All Blacks XV:

      I just feel sorry for big Pita Gus!

      yep, he never looked like a long term AB, and was in poor form when selected, I had similar misgivings when Seta Tamanivalu was selected for his handful of tests.

      TBF though, I think wanted to represent NZ over Fiji, but still shit situation for him.

      thats fair, i think this selection just highlights the poor decision they made early in the year rather than this being particularly surprising or bad

      whole international career down to 25 mins over 2 games including a try

      Mate he can still go to Fiji for 27 WC, so hardly whole test career gone, the other thing is he got a test cap so escapes a lot of the problems of going to NH (he will get work permit for longer) and make some big money until Fiji pick him, if they do.

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      • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

        i actually thought Nareki might have been a shout, obviously been injured but hes back now and was dangerous in the first game back

        there's more...."experience" than i would have thought, was expecting more up and comers

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        Grooter
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        @Kiwiwomble yeah Nareki is fit but even I must admit he's no Bryce heem😉

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        • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

          @SouthernMann said in All Blacks XV:

          Nareki, our Umag-Jensen, Holland and even potentially Ainsley

          yeah, Nareki, our Umaga-Jensen, Holland and even potentially Ainsley have all looked better than the players around them this year....but i was trying to control my bias

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          @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks XV:

          @SouthernMann said in All Blacks XV:

          Nareki, our Umag-Jensen, Holland and even potentially Ainsley

          yeah, Nareki, our Umaga-Jensen, Holland and even potentially Ainsley have all looked better than the players around them this year....but i was trying to control my bias

          TUJ & Zarn Sullivan the 2 biggest omissions for me, hopefully it's down to injuries...

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            KiwiMurph
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            #490

            The fascination now becomes how many of these players who missed out will be picked in Razor's Barbarians team.

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            • S SouthernMann

              @taniwharugby said in All Blacks XV:

              @SouthernMann said in All Blacks XV:

              I just feel sorry for big Pita Gus!

              yep, he never looked like a long term AB, and was in poor form when selected, I had similar misgivings when Seta Tamanivalu was selected for his handful of tests.

              TBF though, I think wanted to represent NZ over Fiji, but still shit situation for him.

              I just wonder whether these guys get decent advice, when they are eligible for multiple nations. Does someone have an honest conversation; you are probably not going to be a 50, 30 or even 15 test All Black. Will half a dozen caps fill your apetite for the black jersey. Or wpuld you rather play 50 tests for Fiji. In saying that, predictions around their futures in the test team can be hard to predict until they are out there, same with fit in the team environment. We alao don't know what has happened behind closed doors.

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              Bones
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              @SouthernMann said in All Blacks XV:

              I just wonder whether these guys get decent advice, when they are eligible for multiple nations. Does someone have an honest conversation; you are probably not going to be a 50, 30 or even 15 test All Black. Will half a dozen caps fill your apetite for the black jersey. Or wpuld you rather play 50 tests for Fiji

              Yeah someone really should have had a word to young Kaino and Nonu to represent another country after not being the best early in their careers.

              Lomu should probably have gone to the 95 RWC with Tonga too after that shit show in 94.

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              • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                The fascination now becomes how many of these players who missed out will be picked in Razor's Barbarians team.

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                @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks XV:

                The fascination now becomes how many of these players who missed out will be picked in Razor's Barbarians team.

                There’s no one left in Canterbury to select.

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                  Winger
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                  #493

                  Including the province

                  8 forwards from Canterbury (out of 16). No backs. Is this the influence of a new AB coach maybe

                  All Blacks XV squad: Forwards: Asafo Aumua (Wellington), George Bell (Canterbury), Brodie McAlister (Canty), Finlay Brewis (Canty), Oli Jager (Canty), Aidan Ross (Bay of Plenty), Angus Ta’avao (Auckland), Tamaiti Williams (Canty), Josh Dickson (Otago), Zach Gallagher (Canty), Patrick Tuipulotu (Auckland – captain), Dominic Gardiner (Canty), Billy Harmon (Canty), Luke Jacobson (Waikato), Christian Lio-Willie (Otago), Marino Mikaele-Tu'u (Hawkes Bay).

                  Backs: TJ Perenara (Wellington), Brad Weber (Hawke’s Bay), Cam Roigard (Counties Manukau), Bryn Gatland (North Harbour), Damian McKenzie (Waikato), Levi Aumua ( Ta$man), Bryce Heem (Auckland), Alex Nankivell ( Ta$man), Bailyn Sullivan (Waikato), AJ Lam (Auckland), Ruben Love (Wellington), Mark Telea (North Harbour).

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                    Nepia
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                    #494

                    Well this is a bit of a what the actual fuck selection isn't it.

                    Is PGS injured? How did he go from AB to not even making this team.

                    Jager? How long has he been in NZ? He's never looked like AB material to those without eye patches.

                    Ruben Love over Zarn Sullivan? If not injuries then fuck off. Edit: Clearly I'm not very observant when watching Auckland matches.

                    Da fuq. Heem with a lifetime award I guess.

                    Aumua isn't supposed to be eligible I thought?

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                    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                      The fascination now becomes how many of these players who missed out will be picked in Razor's Barbarians team.

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                      Tim
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                      #495

                      @KiwiMurph What's a best of the rest XV?

                      1 Hodgman
                      2 Eklund
                      3 Mafileo
                      4 McWhannell
                      5 Sangster
                      6 Ah Kuoi/Flanders
                      7 Choat
                      8 Suafoa

                      9 Ratima
                      10 Ioane/Plummer/Morgan
                      11 Springer
                      12 TUJ
                      13 PUJ
                      14 Stevenson
                      15 Sullivan

                      Not sure if Toala is NZ eligible?

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                      • NepiaN Nepia

                        Well this is a bit of a what the actual fuck selection isn't it.

                        Is PGS injured? How did he go from AB to not even making this team.

                        Jager? How long has he been in NZ? He's never looked like AB material to those without eye patches.

                        Ruben Love over Zarn Sullivan? If not injuries then fuck off. Edit: Clearly I'm not very observant when watching Auckland matches.

                        Da fuq. Heem with a lifetime award I guess.

                        Aumua isn't supposed to be eligible I thought?

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                        #496

                        @Nepia said in All Blacks XV:

                        Well this is a bit of a what the actual fuck selection isn't it.

                        Is PGS injured? How did he go from AB to not even making this team.

                        Jager? How long has he been in NZ? He's never looked like AB material to those without eye patches.

                        Ruben Love over Zarn Sullivan? If not injuries then fuck off.

                        Da fuq. Heem with a lifetime award I guess.

                        Aumua isn't supposed to be eligible I thought?

                        Zarn injured. Otherwise he would definitely be in

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                        • NepiaN Nepia

                          Well this is a bit of a what the actual fuck selection isn't it.

                          Is PGS injured? How did he go from AB to not even making this team.

                          Jager? How long has he been in NZ? He's never looked like AB material to those without eye patches.

                          Ruben Love over Zarn Sullivan? If not injuries then fuck off. Edit: Clearly I'm not very observant when watching Auckland matches.

                          Da fuq. Heem with a lifetime award I guess.

                          Aumua isn't supposed to be eligible I thought?

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                          Duluth
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                          #497

                          @Nepia said in All Blacks XV:

                          Ruben Love over Zarn Sullivan? If not injuries then fuck off.

                          Sullivan hasn’t played since mid August. He’s missed the last 8 Auckland matches

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                            #498

                            Hope the players who miss out that might have thought they had a chance don't get disheartened. Will any Wellington players who fit into this category. At least until the NPC is finished

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                              pakman
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                              #499

                              Two things:

                              1. Not a development team (at least this year), which explains Heem; and

                              2. Surprised no Christie, given his province, but glad Harmon made it.

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                              • DuluthD Duluth

                                @Nepia said in All Blacks XV:

                                Ruben Love over Zarn Sullivan? If not injuries then fuck off.

                                Sullivan hasn’t played since mid August. He’s missed the last 8 Auckland matches

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                                Billsy111
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                                @Duluth How has Brewis made this team ahead of Hodgman. Bryce Heem? A retirement gift maybe, but I'm sorry I don't agree with either of those two. And to be honest I don't agree with Dane Coles making the All Blacks for the Northern tour. I would of thought Aumua would have been a better pick, and either Thompson or Eklund being taken for the All Blacks XV. Just my opinion.

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                                • WingerW Winger

                                  Hope the players who miss out that might have thought they had a chance don't get disheartened. Will any Wellington players who fit into this category. At least until the NPC is finished

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                                  SBW1
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                                  #501

                                  @Winger Asafo is beast mode how he hasn't gone instead of Codie Taylor.

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                                  • WingerW Winger

                                    Including the province

                                    8 forwards from Canterbury (out of 16). No backs. Is this the influence of a new AB coach maybe

                                    All Blacks XV squad: Forwards: Asafo Aumua (Wellington), George Bell (Canterbury), Brodie McAlister (Canty), Finlay Brewis (Canty), Oli Jager (Canty), Aidan Ross (Bay of Plenty), Angus Ta’avao (Auckland), Tamaiti Williams (Canty), Josh Dickson (Otago), Zach Gallagher (Canty), Patrick Tuipulotu (Auckland – captain), Dominic Gardiner (Canty), Billy Harmon (Canty), Luke Jacobson (Waikato), Christian Lio-Willie (Otago), Marino Mikaele-Tu'u (Hawkes Bay).

                                    Backs: TJ Perenara (Wellington), Brad Weber (Hawke’s Bay), Cam Roigard (Counties Manukau), Bryn Gatland (North Harbour), Damian McKenzie (Waikato), Levi Aumua ( Ta$man), Bryce Heem (Auckland), Alex Nankivell ( Ta$man), Bailyn Sullivan (Waikato), AJ Lam (Auckland), Ruben Love (Wellington), Mark Telea (North Harbour).

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                                    @Winger said in All Blacks XV:

                                    Including the province

                                    8 forwards from Canterbury (out of 16). No backs. Is this the influence of a new AB coach maybe

                                    All Blacks XV squad: Forwards: Asafo Aumua (Wellington), George Bell (Canterbury), Brodie McAlister (Canty), Finlay Brewis (Canty), Oli Jager (Canty), Aidan Ross (Bay of Plenty), Angus Ta’avao (Auckland), Tamaiti Williams (Canty), Josh Dickson (Otago), Zach Gallagher (Canty), Patrick Tuipulotu (Auckland – captain), Dominic Gardiner (Canty), Billy Harmon (Canty), Luke Jacobson (Waikato), Christian Lio-Willie (Otago), Marino Mikaele-Tu'u (Hawkes Bay).

                                    Backs: TJ Perenara (Wellington), Brad Weber (Hawke’s Bay), Cam Roigard (Counties Manukau), Bryn Gatland (North Harbour), Damian McKenzie (Waikato), Levi Aumua ( Ta$man), Bryce Heem (Auckland), Alex Nankivell ( Ta$man), Bailyn Sullivan (Waikato), AJ Lam (Auckland), Ruben Love (Wellington), Mark Telea (North Harbour).

                                    Of the 4 semi final teams
                                    Canterbury = 8
                                    Auckland = 4
                                    Wellington = 3
                                    BOP = 1

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                                    • B Billsy111

                                      @Duluth How has Brewis made this team ahead of Hodgman. Bryce Heem? A retirement gift maybe, but I'm sorry I don't agree with either of those two. And to be honest I don't agree with Dane Coles making the All Blacks for the Northern tour. I would of thought Aumua would have been a better pick, and either Thompson or Eklund being taken for the All Blacks XV. Just my opinion.

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                                      @Billsy111 said in All Blacks XV:

                                      @Duluth How has Brewis made this team ahead of Hodgman. Bryce Heem? A retirement gift maybe, but I'm sorry I don't agree with either of those two. And to be honest I don't agree with Dane Coles making the All Blacks for the Northern tour. I would of thought Aumua would have been a better pick, and either Thompson or Eklund being taken for the All Blacks XV. Just my opinion.

                                      Coles is a better performer than Taylor. I have no problem with Coles being in the ABs.

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                                        Crucial
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                                        So 13 Crusaders forwards in total in the two squads?

                                        Not sure if other players will feel they have had a fair crack.

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                                        • TimT Tim

                                          @KiwiMurph What's a best of the rest XV?

                                          1 Hodgman
                                          2 Eklund
                                          3 Mafileo
                                          4 McWhannell
                                          5 Sangster
                                          6 Ah Kuoi/Flanders
                                          7 Choat
                                          8 Suafoa

                                          9 Ratima
                                          10 Ioane/Plummer/Morgan
                                          11 Springer
                                          12 TUJ
                                          13 PUJ
                                          14 Stevenson
                                          15 Sullivan

                                          Not sure if Toala is NZ eligible?

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                                          #505

                                          @Tim Toala the magpies midfielder who plays for another Samoa? or another Toala?

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