All Blacks XV 2022
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@SouthernMann said in All Blacks XV:
Nareki, our Umag-Jensen, Holland and even potentially Ainsley
yeah, Nareki, our Umaga-Jensen, Holland and even potentially Ainsley have all looked better than the players around them this year....but i was trying to control my bias
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks XV:
@SouthernMann said in All Blacks XV:
Nareki, our Umag-Jensen, Holland and even potentially Ainsley
yeah, Nareki, our Umaga-Jensen, Holland and even potentially Ainsley have all looked better than the players around them this year....but i was trying to control my bias
TUJ & Zarn Sullivan the 2 biggest omissions for me, hopefully it's down to injuries...
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks XV:
@SouthernMann said in All Blacks XV:
I just feel sorry for big Pita Gus!
yep, he never looked like a long term AB, and was in poor form when selected, I had similar misgivings when Seta Tamanivalu was selected for his handful of tests.
TBF though, I think wanted to represent NZ over Fiji, but still shit situation for him.
I just wonder whether these guys get decent advice, when they are eligible for multiple nations. Does someone have an honest conversation; you are probably not going to be a 50, 30 or even 15 test All Black. Will half a dozen caps fill your apetite for the black jersey. Or wpuld you rather play 50 tests for Fiji. In saying that, predictions around their futures in the test team can be hard to predict until they are out there, same with fit in the team environment. We alao don't know what has happened behind closed doors.
@SouthernMann said in All Blacks XV:
I just wonder whether these guys get decent advice, when they are eligible for multiple nations. Does someone have an honest conversation; you are probably not going to be a 50, 30 or even 15 test All Black. Will half a dozen caps fill your apetite for the black jersey. Or wpuld you rather play 50 tests for Fiji
Yeah someone really should have had a word to young Kaino and Nonu to represent another country after not being the best early in their careers.
Lomu should probably have gone to the 95 RWC with Tonga too after that shit show in 94.
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The fascination now becomes how many of these players who missed out will be picked in Razor's Barbarians team.
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks XV:
The fascination now becomes how many of these players who missed out will be picked in Razor's Barbarians team.
There’s no one left in Canterbury to select.
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Including the province
8 forwards from Canterbury (out of 16). No backs. Is this the influence of a new AB coach maybe
All Blacks XV squad: Forwards: Asafo Aumua (Wellington), George Bell (Canterbury), Brodie McAlister (Canty), Finlay Brewis (Canty), Oli Jager (Canty), Aidan Ross (Bay of Plenty), Angus Ta’avao (Auckland), Tamaiti Williams (Canty), Josh Dickson (Otago), Zach Gallagher (Canty), Patrick Tuipulotu (Auckland – captain), Dominic Gardiner (Canty), Billy Harmon (Canty), Luke Jacobson (Waikato), Christian Lio-Willie (Otago), Marino Mikaele-Tu'u (Hawkes Bay).
Backs: TJ Perenara (Wellington), Brad Weber (Hawke’s Bay), Cam Roigard (Counties Manukau), Bryn Gatland (North Harbour), Damian McKenzie (Waikato), Levi Aumua ( Ta$man), Bryce Heem (Auckland), Alex Nankivell ( Ta$man), Bailyn Sullivan (Waikato), AJ Lam (Auckland), Ruben Love (Wellington), Mark Telea (North Harbour).
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Well this is a bit of a what the actual fuck selection isn't it.
Is PGS injured? How did he go from AB to not even making this team.
Jager? How long has he been in NZ? He's never looked like AB material to those without eye patches.
Ruben Love over Zarn Sullivan? If not injuries then fuck off. Edit: Clearly I'm not very observant when watching Auckland matches.
Da fuq. Heem with a lifetime award I guess.
Aumua isn't supposed to be eligible I thought?
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The fascination now becomes how many of these players who missed out will be picked in Razor's Barbarians team.
@KiwiMurph What's a best of the rest XV?
1 Hodgman
2 Eklund
3 Mafileo
4 McWhannell
5 Sangster
6 Ah Kuoi/Flanders
7 Choat
8 Suafoa9 Ratima
10 Ioane/Plummer/Morgan
11 Springer
12 TUJ
13 PUJ
14 Stevenson
15 SullivanNot sure if Toala is NZ eligible?
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Well this is a bit of a what the actual fuck selection isn't it.
Is PGS injured? How did he go from AB to not even making this team.
Jager? How long has he been in NZ? He's never looked like AB material to those without eye patches.
Ruben Love over Zarn Sullivan? If not injuries then fuck off. Edit: Clearly I'm not very observant when watching Auckland matches.
Da fuq. Heem with a lifetime award I guess.
Aumua isn't supposed to be eligible I thought?
@Nepia said in All Blacks XV:
Well this is a bit of a what the actual fuck selection isn't it.
Is PGS injured? How did he go from AB to not even making this team.
Jager? How long has he been in NZ? He's never looked like AB material to those without eye patches.
Ruben Love over Zarn Sullivan? If not injuries then fuck off.
Da fuq. Heem with a lifetime award I guess.
Aumua isn't supposed to be eligible I thought?
Zarn injured. Otherwise he would definitely be in
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Well this is a bit of a what the actual fuck selection isn't it.
Is PGS injured? How did he go from AB to not even making this team.
Jager? How long has he been in NZ? He's never looked like AB material to those without eye patches.
Ruben Love over Zarn Sullivan? If not injuries then fuck off. Edit: Clearly I'm not very observant when watching Auckland matches.
Da fuq. Heem with a lifetime award I guess.
Aumua isn't supposed to be eligible I thought?
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@Nepia said in All Blacks XV:
Ruben Love over Zarn Sullivan? If not injuries then fuck off.
Sullivan hasn’t played since mid August. He’s missed the last 8 Auckland matches
@Duluth How has Brewis made this team ahead of Hodgman. Bryce Heem? A retirement gift maybe, but I'm sorry I don't agree with either of those two. And to be honest I don't agree with Dane Coles making the All Blacks for the Northern tour. I would of thought Aumua would have been a better pick, and either Thompson or Eklund being taken for the All Blacks XV. Just my opinion.
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Hope the players who miss out that might have thought they had a chance don't get disheartened. Will any Wellington players who fit into this category. At least until the NPC is finished
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Including the province
8 forwards from Canterbury (out of 16). No backs. Is this the influence of a new AB coach maybe
All Blacks XV squad: Forwards: Asafo Aumua (Wellington), George Bell (Canterbury), Brodie McAlister (Canty), Finlay Brewis (Canty), Oli Jager (Canty), Aidan Ross (Bay of Plenty), Angus Ta’avao (Auckland), Tamaiti Williams (Canty), Josh Dickson (Otago), Zach Gallagher (Canty), Patrick Tuipulotu (Auckland – captain), Dominic Gardiner (Canty), Billy Harmon (Canty), Luke Jacobson (Waikato), Christian Lio-Willie (Otago), Marino Mikaele-Tu'u (Hawkes Bay).
Backs: TJ Perenara (Wellington), Brad Weber (Hawke’s Bay), Cam Roigard (Counties Manukau), Bryn Gatland (North Harbour), Damian McKenzie (Waikato), Levi Aumua ( Ta$man), Bryce Heem (Auckland), Alex Nankivell ( Ta$man), Bailyn Sullivan (Waikato), AJ Lam (Auckland), Ruben Love (Wellington), Mark Telea (North Harbour).
@Winger said in All Blacks XV:
Including the province
8 forwards from Canterbury (out of 16). No backs. Is this the influence of a new AB coach maybe
All Blacks XV squad: Forwards: Asafo Aumua (Wellington), George Bell (Canterbury), Brodie McAlister (Canty), Finlay Brewis (Canty), Oli Jager (Canty), Aidan Ross (Bay of Plenty), Angus Ta’avao (Auckland), Tamaiti Williams (Canty), Josh Dickson (Otago), Zach Gallagher (Canty), Patrick Tuipulotu (Auckland – captain), Dominic Gardiner (Canty), Billy Harmon (Canty), Luke Jacobson (Waikato), Christian Lio-Willie (Otago), Marino Mikaele-Tu'u (Hawkes Bay).
Backs: TJ Perenara (Wellington), Brad Weber (Hawke’s Bay), Cam Roigard (Counties Manukau), Bryn Gatland (North Harbour), Damian McKenzie (Waikato), Levi Aumua ( Ta$man), Bryce Heem (Auckland), Alex Nankivell ( Ta$man), Bailyn Sullivan (Waikato), AJ Lam (Auckland), Ruben Love (Wellington), Mark Telea (North Harbour).
Of the 4 semi final teams
Canterbury = 8
Auckland = 4
Wellington = 3
BOP = 1 -
@Duluth How has Brewis made this team ahead of Hodgman. Bryce Heem? A retirement gift maybe, but I'm sorry I don't agree with either of those two. And to be honest I don't agree with Dane Coles making the All Blacks for the Northern tour. I would of thought Aumua would have been a better pick, and either Thompson or Eklund being taken for the All Blacks XV. Just my opinion.
@Billsy111 said in All Blacks XV:
@Duluth How has Brewis made this team ahead of Hodgman. Bryce Heem? A retirement gift maybe, but I'm sorry I don't agree with either of those two. And to be honest I don't agree with Dane Coles making the All Blacks for the Northern tour. I would of thought Aumua would have been a better pick, and either Thompson or Eklund being taken for the All Blacks XV. Just my opinion.
Coles is a better performer than Taylor. I have no problem with Coles being in the ABs.
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@KiwiMurph What's a best of the rest XV?
1 Hodgman
2 Eklund
3 Mafileo
4 McWhannell
5 Sangster
6 Ah Kuoi/Flanders
7 Choat
8 Suafoa9 Ratima
10 Ioane/Plummer/Morgan
11 Springer
12 TUJ
13 PUJ
14 Stevenson
15 SullivanNot sure if Toala is NZ eligible?
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@SouthernMann said in All Blacks XV:
I just wonder whether these guys get decent advice, when they are eligible for multiple nations. Does someone have an honest conversation; you are probably not going to be a 50, 30 or even 15 test All Black. Will half a dozen caps fill your apetite for the black jersey. Or wpuld you rather play 50 tests for Fiji
Yeah someone really should have had a word to young Kaino and Nonu to represent another country after not being the best early in their careers.
Lomu should probably have gone to the 95 RWC with Tonga too after that shit show in 94.
@Bones said in All Blacks XV:
@SouthernMann said in All Blacks XV:
I just wonder whether these guys get decent advice, when they are eligible for multiple nations. Does someone have an honest conversation; you are probably not going to be a 50, 30 or even 15 test All Black. Will half a dozen caps fill your apetite for the black jersey. Or wpuld you rather play 50 tests for Fiji
Yeah someone really should have had a word to young Kaino and Nonu to represent another country after not being the best early in their careers.
Lomu should probably have gone to the 95 RWC with Tonga too after that shit show in 94.
Yeah... not the level of players I was talking about there buddy....
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@Bones said in All Blacks XV:
@SouthernMann said in All Blacks XV:
I just wonder whether these guys get decent advice, when they are eligible for multiple nations. Does someone have an honest conversation; you are probably not going to be a 50, 30 or even 15 test All Black. Will half a dozen caps fill your apetite for the black jersey. Or wpuld you rather play 50 tests for Fiji
Yeah someone really should have had a word to young Kaino and Nonu to represent another country after not being the best early in their careers.
Lomu should probably have gone to the 95 RWC with Tonga too after that shit show in 94.
Yeah... not the level of players I was talking about there buddy....
@SouthernMann said in All Blacks XV:
@Bones said in All Blacks XV:
@SouthernMann said in All Blacks XV:
I just wonder whether these guys get decent advice, when they are eligible for multiple nations. Does someone have an honest conversation; you are probably not going to be a 50, 30 or even 15 test All Black. Will half a dozen caps fill your apetite for the black jersey. Or wpuld you rather play 50 tests for Fiji
Yeah someone really should have had a word to young Kaino and Nonu to represent another country after not being the best early in their careers.
Lomu should probably have gone to the 95 RWC with Tonga too after that shit show in 94.
Yeah... not the level of players I was talking about there buddy....
A player with a handful of caps who didn't hit their straps until getting selected a "second time around"? Sounds right to me.
