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All Blacks 2022

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  • BonesB Bones

    @Frye said in All Blacks 2022:

    With all due respect to DH, I don't think teams have been structuring their defence to be like "keep an eye on Havili"!

    Only if you look at one aspect of play. His distribution is better than Jordie's.

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    @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Frye said in All Blacks 2022:

    With all due respect to DH, I don't think teams have been structuring their defence to be like "keep an eye on Havili"!

    Only if you look at one aspect of play. His distribution is better than Jordie's.

    So more like ‘keep an eye on who Havili passes to’

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    • MN5M MN5

      @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

      @Frye said in All Blacks 2022:

      With all due respect to DH, I don't think teams have been structuring their defence to be like "keep an eye on Havili"!

      Only if you look at one aspect of play. His distribution is better than Jordie's.

      So more like ‘keep an eye on who Havili passes to’

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      @MN5 worked for Rieko.

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      • BonesB Bones

        @Frye said in All Blacks 2022:

        With all due respect to DH, I don't think teams have been structuring their defence to be like "keep an eye on Havili"!

        Only if you look at one aspect of play. His distribution is better than Jordie's.

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        @Bones yeah nothing commits a defender like knowing he's gonna pass it

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        • F Frye

          @Bones yeah nothing commits a defender like knowing he's gonna pass it

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          @Frye worked for Rieko.

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            @Bones you should really stop trying to be a funny guy and actually watch Rugby once in awhile.

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            • MN5M MN5

              @Bones you should really stop trying to be a funny guy and actually watch Rugby once in awhile.

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              @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

              @Bones you should really stop trying to be a funny guy and actually watch Rugby once in awhile.

              Did you get struck by lightning posting this?

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              • KirwanK Kirwan

                @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

                @Bones you should really stop trying to be a funny guy and actually watch Rugby once in awhile.

                Did you get struck by lightning posting this?

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                @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

                @Bones you should really stop trying to be a funny guy and actually watch Rugby once in awhile.

                Did you get struck by lightning posting this?

                Akira Ioane is overrated

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                • MN5M MN5

                  @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                  @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

                  @Bones you should really stop trying to be a funny guy and actually watch Rugby once in awhile.

                  Did you get struck by lightning posting this?

                  Akira Ioane is overrated

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                  @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

                  @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                  @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

                  @Bones you should really stop trying to be a funny guy and actually watch Rugby once in awhile.

                  Did you get struck by lightning posting this?

                  Akira Ioane is overrated

                  Someone who doesn't watch much rugby would think that.

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                  • F Frye

                    @KiwiMurph Bridge is a good example. He waltzed past LSL in that game to setup Smith, I don't think he's making a line break like that against the top 4(?) teams.

                    But still I don't think either him or Fekitoa put in anything close to the MOTM performance that Jordie did.

                    What's exciting about Barrett at 12 is that we might finally have a threat there so that opposition are actually focusing on that channel defensively. Which should finally provide more opportunities to Mounga inside and Rieko outside.

                    With all due respect to DH, I don't think teams have been structuring their defence to be like "keep an eye on Havili"!

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                    @Frye said in All Blacks 2022:

                    What's exciting about Barrett at 12 is that we might finally have a threat there so that opposition are actually focusing on that channel defensively

                    Well, Australia didn't seem to buy into that theory. Be interesting to see how Jordie goes when he's actually the focus of the opposition defence.

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                    • KirwanK Kirwan

                      @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @Bones you should really stop trying to be a funny guy and actually watch Rugby once in awhile.

                      Did you get struck by lightning posting this?

                      Akira Ioane is overrated

                      Someone who doesn't watch much rugby would think that.

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                      @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @Bones you should really stop trying to be a funny guy and actually watch Rugby once in awhile.

                      Did you get struck by lightning posting this?

                      Akira Ioane is overrated

                      Someone who doesn't watch much rugby would think that.

                      Akira who?

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                      • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                        @Frye said in All Blacks 2022:

                        What's exciting about Barrett at 12 is that we might finally have a threat there so that opposition are actually focusing on that channel defensively

                        Well, Australia didn't seem to buy into that theory. Be interesting to see how Jordie goes when he's actually the focus of the opposition defence.

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                        @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @Frye said in All Blacks 2022:

                        What's exciting about Barrett at 12 is that we might finally have a threat there so that opposition are actually focusing on that channel defensively

                        Well, Australia didn't seem to buy into that theory. Be interesting to see how Jordie goes when he's actually the focus of the opposition defence.

                        Presumably that opens up opportunities for others - especially with Jordie's offloading and passing ability.

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                        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                          @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @Frye said in All Blacks 2022:

                          What's exciting about Barrett at 12 is that we might finally have a threat there so that opposition are actually focusing on that channel defensively

                          Well, Australia didn't seem to buy into that theory. Be interesting to see how Jordie goes when he's actually the focus of the opposition defence.

                          Presumably that opens up opportunities for others - especially with Jordie's offloading and passing ability.

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                          @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @Frye said in All Blacks 2022:

                          What's exciting about Barrett at 12 is that we might finally have a threat there so that opposition are actually focusing on that channel defensively

                          Well, Australia didn't seem to buy into that theory. Be interesting to see how Jordie goes when he's actually the focus of the opposition defence.

                          Presumably that opens up opportunities for others - especially with Jordie's offloading and passing ability.

                          Only if the opposition allow him to off-load and pass as easily as the Oz defence did.

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                          • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                            @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

                            @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

                            @Frye said in All Blacks 2022:

                            What's exciting about Barrett at 12 is that we might finally have a threat there so that opposition are actually focusing on that channel defensively

                            Well, Australia didn't seem to buy into that theory. Be interesting to see how Jordie goes when he's actually the focus of the opposition defence.

                            Presumably that opens up opportunities for others - especially with Jordie's offloading and passing ability.

                            Only if the opposition allow him to off-load and pass as easily as the Oz defence did.

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                            @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

                            @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

                            @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

                            @Frye said in All Blacks 2022:

                            What's exciting about Barrett at 12 is that we might finally have a threat there so that opposition are actually focusing on that channel defensively

                            Well, Australia didn't seem to buy into that theory. Be interesting to see how Jordie goes when he's actually the focus of the opposition defence.

                            Presumably that opens up opportunities for others - especially with Jordie's offloading and passing ability.

                            Only if the opposition allow him to off-load and pass as easily as the Oz defence did.

                            Then you also have other opportunities around using Jordie as decoy etc.

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                            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                              @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @Frye said in All Blacks 2022:

                              What's exciting about Barrett at 12 is that we might finally have a threat there so that opposition are actually focusing on that channel defensively

                              Well, Australia didn't seem to buy into that theory. Be interesting to see how Jordie goes when he's actually the focus of the opposition defence.

                              Presumably that opens up opportunities for others - especially with Jordie's offloading and passing ability.

                              Only if the opposition allow him to off-load and pass as easily as the Oz defence did.

                              Then you also have other opportunities around using Jordie as decoy etc.

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                              Victor Meldrew
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                              @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @Frye said in All Blacks 2022:

                              What's exciting about Barrett at 12 is that we might finally have a threat there so that opposition are actually focusing on that channel defensively

                              Well, Australia didn't seem to buy into that theory. Be interesting to see how Jordie goes when he's actually the focus of the opposition defence.

                              Presumably that opens up opportunities for others - especially with Jordie's offloading and passing ability.

                              Only if the opposition allow him to off-load and pass as easily as the Oz defence did.

                              Then you also have other opportunities around using Jordie as decoy etc.

                              As you would with any other player. I hope he gets another run at 12 and he's a success but I recall the same things being said about SBW when he came on the scene. He was outstanding against England but was torn a new one by Wales in his next Test and was subbed at halftime. Not quite Henry Paul - bad, mind, but not good either.

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                              • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

                                @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

                                @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

                                @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

                                @Frye said in All Blacks 2022:

                                What's exciting about Barrett at 12 is that we might finally have a threat there so that opposition are actually focusing on that channel defensively

                                Well, Australia didn't seem to buy into that theory. Be interesting to see how Jordie goes when he's actually the focus of the opposition defence.

                                Presumably that opens up opportunities for others - especially with Jordie's offloading and passing ability.

                                Only if the opposition allow him to off-load and pass as easily as the Oz defence did.

                                Then you also have other opportunities around using Jordie as decoy etc.

                                As you would with any other player. I hope he gets another run at 12 and he's a success but I recall the same things being said about SBW when he came on the scene. He was outstanding against England but was torn a new one by Wales in his next Test and was subbed at halftime. Not quite Henry Paul - bad, mind, but not good either.

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                                @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

                                @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

                                @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

                                @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

                                @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

                                @Frye said in All Blacks 2022:

                                What's exciting about Barrett at 12 is that we might finally have a threat there so that opposition are actually focusing on that channel defensively

                                Well, Australia didn't seem to buy into that theory. Be interesting to see how Jordie goes when he's actually the focus of the opposition defence.

                                Presumably that opens up opportunities for others - especially with Jordie's offloading and passing ability.

                                Only if the opposition allow him to off-load and pass as easily as the Oz defence did.

                                Then you also have other opportunities around using Jordie as decoy etc.

                                As you would with any other player. I hope he gets another run at 12 and he's a success but I recall the same things being said about SBW when he came on the scene. He was outstanding against England but was torn a new one by Wales in his next Test and was subbed at halftime. Not quite Henry Paul - bad, mind, but not good either.

                                Not exactly - the idea is if the opposition defence is keyed in on a player (moreso than any other player) that then opens up more opportunities for others.

                                As for SBW I don't see the comparison - I recall being slightly disappointed with his test debut vs England given how much hype SBW came in with as he had been carving up the NPC for Canterbury - there was the odd glimpse in that game but was nowhere near the performance of Jordie - with SBW it was more of a realisation of 'test rugby is a different ball game to NPC for Canterbury so it's going to take some time'.

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                                  that try scoring list shows how brutal the ABs have been with wingers. Some all-time greats who in many other nations would have continued to get picked until they retired were cut with probably a bit left in the tank

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                                  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                    that try scoring list shows how brutal the ABs have been with wingers. Some all-time greats who in many other nations would have continued to get picked until they retired were cut with probably a bit left in the tank

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                                    @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    that try scoring list shows how brutal the ABs have been with wingers. Some all-time greats who in many other nations would have continued to get picked until they retired were cut with probably a bit left in the tank

                                    Indeed. Bryan Habana and Shane Williams both played for about a thousand years each

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                                      We also have the weird situation of two players just starring on the wing for a RWC and then basically disappearing. Three if you count Graig Green.

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                                      • NepiaN Nepia

                                        We also have the weird situation of two players just starring on the wing for a RWC and then basically disappearing. Three if you count Graig Green.

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                                        @Nepia said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        We also have the weird situation of two players just starring on the wing for a RWC and then basically disappearing. Three if you count Graig Green.

                                        ??

                                        NMS and ?

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                                          @Nepia said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          We also have the weird situation of two players just starring on the wing for a RWC and then basically disappearing. Three if you count Graig Green.

                                          ??

                                          NMS and ?

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                                          @booboo said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @Nepia said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          We also have the weird situation of two players just starring on the wing for a RWC and then basically disappearing. Three if you count Graig Green.

                                          ??

                                          NMS and ?

                                          Kahui.

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