Foster, Robertson etc
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The fact that the improvements listed ('moved the performance needle big-time in the pack'; 'added some much-needed variation in attack'; the others mentioned have all flowed from those two) happened after Ryan and Schmidt were given roles in the ABs' coaching team speaks volumes.
The front row changes were injury-enforced, as Foster's original picks dropped out and had to be replaced by players who proved to be much better. Barrett at second-five was also injury-enforced, after Foster said he wasn't being looked at in that position.
In other words, Foster has been shown up as a poor coach and selector reliant on injury, not insight, to force clearly-needed changes, and reliant too on the competent coaches NZR added to the group when those chosen by Foster turned out, like him, to be not up to the job.
@kiwi_expat said in Foster:
The fact that the improvements listed ('moved the performance needle big-time in the pack'; 'added some much-needed variation in attack'; the others mentioned have all flowed from those two) happened after Ryan and Schmidt were given roles in the ABs' coaching team speaks volumes.
Glad you think things have improved under Foster. Long, long way to go, but I agree there are some promising signs.
. Barrett at second-five was also injury-enforced, after Foster said he wasn't being looked at in that position.
Foster preferring to play a pretty much world-class full-back at full-back? That's hardly an indicator of a poor selection mindset.
In other words, Foster has been shown up as a poor coach and selector reliant on injury, not insight, to force clearly-needed changes, and reliant too on the competent coaches NZR added to the group
Putting aside your inaccuracy that Schmidt was forced on Foster (he had been wanting Schmidt as an Assistant for 2 years), I'm puzzled by your argument that Foster is a poor Head Coach because he relies on his chosen assistants to do a good job.
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Apparently, the reasons that fucking foster stayed were:
- Razor's 'in principle' team lacked international experience, so NZR wanted Schmidt in on it. He met Razor (as ordered by NZR), and then said 'no' - not due to not wanting to work with Razor, but because he thought it was pretty shitty for him to be talking to a potential replacement whilst working for Foster. Loyalty said he would stay.
- Great result SA 2
- Senior players loving getting picked no matter what and publicly backing him
Overall what a cluster, who the fuck is in charge? Not NZR, Robinson, or the Board!
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Apparently, the reasons that fucking foster stayed were:
- Razor's 'in principle' team lacked international experience, so NZR wanted Schmidt in on it. He met Razor (as ordered by NZR), and then said 'no' - not due to not wanting to work with Razor, but because he thought it was pretty shitty for him to be talking to a potential replacement whilst working for Foster. Loyalty said he would stay.
- Great result SA 2
- Senior players loving getting picked no matter what and publicly backing him
Overall what a cluster, who the fuck is in charge? Not NZR, Robinson, or the Board!
@Machpants said in Foster:
Apparently, the reasons that fucking foster stayed were:
- Razor's 'in principle' team lacked international experience, so NZR wanted Schmidt in on it. He met Razor (as ordered by NZR), and then said 'no' - not due to not wanting to work with Razor, but because he thought it was pretty shitty for him to be talking to a potential replacement whilst working for Foster. Loyalty said he would stay.
- Great result SA 2
- Senior players loving getting picked no matter what and publicly backing him
Overall what a cluster, who the fuck is in charge? Not NZR, Robinson, or the Board!
What complete fuck feast,Not hard to see who is in charge and its not the board.
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@Machpants said in Foster:
Apparently, the reasons that fucking foster stayed were:
- Razor's 'in principle' team lacked international experience, so NZR wanted Schmidt in on it. He met Razor (as ordered by NZR), and then said 'no' - not due to not wanting to work with Razor, but because he thought it was pretty shitty for him to be talking to a potential replacement whilst working for Foster. Loyalty said he would stay.
- Great result SA 2
- Senior players loving getting picked no matter what and publicly backing him
Overall what a cluster, who the fuck is in charge? Not NZR, Robinson, or the Board!
What complete fuck feast,Not hard to see who is in charge and its not the board.
@Machpants said in Foster:
Apparently, the reasons that fucking foster stayed were:
- Razor's 'in principle' team lacked international experience, so NZR wanted Schmidt in on it. He met Razor (as ordered by NZR), and then said 'no' - not due to not wanting to work with Razor, but because he thought it was pretty shitty for him to be talking to a potential replacement whilst working for Foster. Loyalty said he would stay.
- Great result SA 2
- Senior players loving getting picked no matter what and publicly backing him
Overall what a cluster, who the fuck is in charge? Not NZR, Robinson, or the Board!
What complete fuck feast,Not hard to see who is in charge and its not the board.
i though you would know all this
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@Machpants said in Foster:
Apparently, the reasons that fucking foster stayed were:
- Razor's 'in principle' team lacked international experience, so NZR wanted Schmidt in on it. He met Razor (as ordered by NZR), and then said 'no' - not due to not wanting to work with Razor, but because he thought it was pretty shitty for him to be talking to a potential replacement whilst working for Foster. Loyalty said he would stay.
- Great result SA 2
- Senior players loving getting picked no matter what and publicly backing him
Overall what a cluster, who the fuck is in charge? Not NZR, Robinson, or the Board!
What complete fuck feast,Not hard to see who is in charge and its not the board.
@Machpants said in Foster:
Apparently, the reasons that fucking foster stayed were:
- Razor's 'in principle' team lacked international experience, so NZR wanted Schmidt in on it. He met Razor (as ordered by NZR), and then said 'no' - not due to not wanting to work with Razor, but because he thought it was pretty shitty for him to be talking to a potential replacement whilst working for Foster. Loyalty said he would stay.
- Great result SA 2
- Senior players loving getting picked no matter what and publicly backing him
Overall what a cluster, who the fuck is in charge? Not NZR, Robinson, or the Board!
What complete fuck feast,Not hard to see who is in charge and its not the board.
What's wrong, this is NZ Hurld write up, so if you take it as accurate (there is a first time for those pricks) I see nothing exciting, basically what do they say that nobody knows (or more likely thought they knew) unless it was the fact that Schmidt didn't want to work with Razor (same as Tony Brown). Nothing very exciting in it.
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"Robertson’s ‘in principle’ team was deemed to lack heavyweight international experience."
Scott Hansen was Japan's defence coach in 2018 and 2019 World Cup.
Jason Ryan was Fiji's forwards coach for the last 2 years.
Jason Holland was Munster's attack coach for 4 seasons (2008-2012).
Scott Robertson, Leon McDonald & Jason Ryan were NZ U20's assistant coaches under Boyd - in 2013 and 2014.
Razor then became head coach for 2015 and 2016 - while Jason Ryan and McDonald remained on the coaching staff.
So that's another 4 seasons of 'international experience' with NZ U20's at Junior World Championships.
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@Machpants said in Foster:
Apparently, the reasons that fucking foster stayed were:
- Razor's 'in principle' team lacked international experience, so NZR wanted Schmidt in on it. He met Razor (as ordered by NZR), and then said 'no' - not due to not wanting to work with Razor, but because he thought it was pretty shitty for him to be talking to a potential replacement whilst working for Foster. Loyalty said he would stay.
- Great result SA 2
- Senior players loving getting picked no matter what and publicly backing him
Overall what a cluster, who the fuck is in charge? Not NZR, Robinson, or the Board!
What complete fuck feast,Not hard to see who is in charge and its not the board.
i though you would know all this
@ploughboy said in Foster:
@Machpants said in Foster:
Apparently, the reasons that fucking foster stayed were:
- Razor's 'in principle' team lacked international experience, so NZR wanted Schmidt in on it. He met Razor (as ordered by NZR), and then said 'no' - not due to not wanting to work with Razor, but because he thought it was pretty shitty for him to be talking to a potential replacement whilst working for Foster. Loyalty said he would stay.
- Great result SA 2
- Senior players loving getting picked no matter what and publicly backing him
Overall what a cluster, who the fuck is in charge? Not NZR, Robinson, or the Board!
What complete fuck feast,Not hard to see who is in charge and its not the board.
i though you would know all this
I do, just commenting on the retarded fucks
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@Machpants said in Foster:
Apparently, the reasons that fucking foster stayed were:
- Razor's 'in principle' team lacked international experience, so NZR wanted Schmidt in on it. He met Razor (as ordered by NZR), and then said 'no' - not due to not wanting to work with Razor, but because he thought it was pretty shitty for him to be talking to a potential replacement whilst working for Foster. Loyalty said he would stay.
- Great result SA 2
- Senior players loving getting picked no matter what and publicly backing him
Overall what a cluster, who the fuck is in charge? Not NZR, Robinson, or the Board!
What complete fuck feast,Not hard to see who is in charge and its not the board.
What's wrong, this is NZ Hurld write up, so if you take it as accurate (there is a first time for those pricks) I see nothing exciting, basically what do they say that nobody knows (or more likely thought they knew) unless it was the fact that Schmidt didn't want to work with Razor (same as Tony Brown). Nothing very exciting in it.
@Machpants said in Foster:
Apparently, the reasons that fucking foster stayed were:
- Razor's 'in principle' team lacked international experience, so NZR wanted Schmidt in on it. He met Razor (as ordered by NZR), and then said 'no' - not due to not wanting to work with Razor, but because he thought it was pretty shitty for him to be talking to a potential replacement whilst working for Foster. Loyalty said he would stay.
- Great result SA 2
- Senior players loving getting picked no matter what and publicly backing him
Overall what a cluster, who the fuck is in charge? Not NZR, Robinson, or the Board!
What complete fuck feast,Not hard to see who is in charge and its not the board.
What's wrong, this is NZ Hurld write up, so if you take it as accurate (there is a first time for those pricks) I see nothing exciting, basically what do they say that nobody knows (or more likely thought they knew) unless it was the fact that Schmidt didn't want to work with Razor (same as Tony Brown). Nothing very exciting in it.
if you can't see what's wrong then no point explaining it to you.
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@ploughboy said in Foster:
@Machpants said in Foster:
Apparently, the reasons that fucking foster stayed were:
- Razor's 'in principle' team lacked international experience, so NZR wanted Schmidt in on it. He met Razor (as ordered by NZR), and then said 'no' - not due to not wanting to work with Razor, but because he thought it was pretty shitty for him to be talking to a potential replacement whilst working for Foster. Loyalty said he would stay.
- Great result SA 2
- Senior players loving getting picked no matter what and publicly backing him
Overall what a cluster, who the fuck is in charge? Not NZR, Robinson, or the Board!
What complete fuck feast,Not hard to see who is in charge and its not the board.
i though you would know all this
I do, just commenting on the retarded fucks
@ploughboy said in Foster:
@Machpants said in Foster:
Apparently, the reasons that fucking foster stayed were:
- Razor's 'in principle' team lacked international experience, so NZR wanted Schmidt in on it. He met Razor (as ordered by NZR), and then said 'no' - not due to not wanting to work with Razor, but because he thought it was pretty shitty for him to be talking to a potential replacement whilst working for Foster. Loyalty said he would stay.
- Great result SA 2
- Senior players loving getting picked no matter what and publicly backing him
Overall what a cluster, who the fuck is in charge? Not NZR, Robinson, or the Board!
What complete fuck feast,Not hard to see who is in charge and its not the board.
i though you would know all this
I do, just commenting on the retarded fucks
yeah was commenting on the bit of schmidt haveing a chat with robertson and why he did not get job
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@Machpants said in Foster:
Apparently, the reasons that fucking foster stayed were:
- Razor's 'in principle' team lacked international experience, so NZR wanted Schmidt in on it. He met Razor (as ordered by NZR), and then said 'no' - not due to not wanting to work with Razor, but because he thought it was pretty shitty for him to be talking to a potential replacement whilst working for Foster. Loyalty said he would stay.
- Great result SA 2
- Senior players loving getting picked no matter what and publicly backing him
Overall what a cluster, who the fuck is in charge? Not NZR, Robinson, or the Board!
What complete fuck feast,Not hard to see who is in charge and its not the board.
What's wrong, this is NZ Hurld write up, so if you take it as accurate (there is a first time for those pricks) I see nothing exciting, basically what do they say that nobody knows (or more likely thought they knew) unless it was the fact that Schmidt didn't want to work with Razor (same as Tony Brown). Nothing very exciting in it.
if you can't see what's wrong then no point explaining it to you.
@Machpants said in Foster:
Apparently, the reasons that fucking foster stayed were:
- Razor's 'in principle' team lacked international experience, so NZR wanted Schmidt in on it. He met Razor (as ordered by NZR), and then said 'no' - not due to not wanting to work with Razor, but because he thought it was pretty shitty for him to be talking to a potential replacement whilst working for Foster. Loyalty said he would stay.
- Great result SA 2
- Senior players loving getting picked no matter what and publicly backing him
Overall what a cluster, who the fuck is in charge? Not NZR, Robinson, or the Board!
What complete fuck feast,Not hard to see who is in charge and its not the board.
What's wrong, this is NZ Hurld write up, so if you take it as accurate (there is a first time for those pricks) I see nothing exciting, basically what do they say that nobody knows (or more likely thought they knew) unless it was the fact that Schmidt didn't want to work with Razor (same as Tony Brown). Nothing very exciting in it.
if you can't see what's wrong then no point explaining it to you.
No probably not, just let's say you found some new facts, I didn't. So I don't get too upset.
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So who are the senior players getting picked that are having all this influence? A fair few of them would be Cantabs - Taylor, Whitelock, S Barrett, Mo, plus Cane, Savea, BBBR, BB, Rieko maybe?
So who are the senior players getting picked that are having all this influence? A fair few of them would be Cantabs - Taylor, Whitelock, S Barrett, Mo, plus Cane, Savea, BBBR, BB, Rieko maybe?
Coles,Smith,
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Paul has become a bit insufferable
“10 things you don’t know about the ABs”
“The REAL reason Aaron Smith has a bullet pass”
“What the Barrett’s mum cooked to feed her hungry boys”And so on. AKA click-bait
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Paul has become a bit insufferable
“10 things you don’t know about the ABs”
“The REAL reason Aaron Smith has a bullet pass”
“What the Barrett’s mum cooked to feed her hungry boys”And so on. AKA click-bait
@Billy-Tell said in Foster:
Paul has become a bit insufferable
“10 things you don’t know about the ABs”
“The REAL reason Aaron Smith has a bullet pass”
“What the Barrett’s mum cooked to feed her hungry boys”And so on. AKA click-bait
those links didn't work bro
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@Billy-Tell said in Foster:
Paul has become a bit insufferable
“10 things you don’t know about the ABs”
“The REAL reason Aaron Smith has a bullet pass”
“What the Barrett’s mum cooked to feed her hungry boys”And so on. AKA click-bait
those links didn't work bro
@Billy-Tell said in Foster:
Paul has become a bit insufferable
“10 things you don’t know about the ABs”
“The REAL reason Aaron Smith has a bullet pass”
“What the Barrett’s mum cooked to feed her hungry boys”And so on. AKA click-bait
those links didn't work bro
Count your blessings
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@Number-10 love for razors side to come out. It will one day. First he has world cups to win. Wether it’s with the all blacks or England.
Why is NZR putting so much weight on Schmidt’s opinion. What has he ever won. If anyone listened to razors interview on Senz the other morning , then they’ll agree he’s the man for the job. -
@Number-10 love for razors side to come out. It will one day. First he has world cups to win. Wether it’s with the all blacks or England.
Why is NZR putting so much weight on Schmidt’s opinion. What has he ever won. If anyone listened to razors interview on Senz the other morning , then they’ll agree he’s the man for the job.@chchfanatic said in Foster:
@Number-10 love for razors side to come out. It will one day. First he has world cups to win. Wether it’s with the all blacks or England.
Why is NZR putting so much weight on Schmidt’s opinion. What has he ever won. If anyone listened to razors interview on Senz the other morning , then they’ll agree he’s the man for the job.I hope for our sake NRU have told him the job is his post RWC23.
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@chchfanatic said in Foster:
@Number-10 love for razors side to come out. It will one day. First he has world cups to win. Wether it’s with the all blacks or England.
Why is NZR putting so much weight on Schmidt’s opinion. What has he ever won. If anyone listened to razors interview on Senz the other morning , then they’ll agree he’s the man for the job.I hope for our sake NRU have told him the job is his post RWC23.
@chchfanatic said in Foster:
@Number-10 love for razors side to come out. It will one day. First he has world cups to win. Wether it’s with the all blacks or England.
Why is NZR putting so much weight on Schmidt’s opinion. What has he ever won. If anyone listened to razors interview on Senz the other morning , then they’ll agree he’s the man for the job.I hope for our sake NRU have told him the job is his post RWC23.
joesph /brown/mitchel sounds good
