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  • ChrisC Chris

    @Machpants said in Foster:

    Apparently, the reasons that fucking foster stayed were:

    1. Razor's 'in principle' team lacked international experience, so NZR wanted Schmidt in on it. He met Razor (as ordered by NZR), and then said 'no' - not due to not wanting to work with Razor, but because he thought it was pretty shitty for him to be talking to a potential replacement whilst working for Foster. Loyalty said he would stay.
    2. Great result SA 2
    3. Senior players loving getting picked no matter what and publicly backing him

    Overall what a cluster, who the fuck is in charge? Not NZR, Robinson, or the Board!

    Paywalled
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/inside-the-all-blacks-machine-the-dramatic-real-reasons-ian-foster-wasnt-axed-as-all-blacks-coach/NXQLWQAIWVEB3O7OUF2D5TS3GI/

    What complete fuck feast,Not hard to see who is in charge and its not the board.

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    Dan54
    wrote on last edited by
    #3727

    @Chris said in Foster:

    @Machpants said in Foster:

    Apparently, the reasons that fucking foster stayed were:

    1. Razor's 'in principle' team lacked international experience, so NZR wanted Schmidt in on it. He met Razor (as ordered by NZR), and then said 'no' - not due to not wanting to work with Razor, but because he thought it was pretty shitty for him to be talking to a potential replacement whilst working for Foster. Loyalty said he would stay.
    2. Great result SA 2
    3. Senior players loving getting picked no matter what and publicly backing him

    Overall what a cluster, who the fuck is in charge? Not NZR, Robinson, or the Board!

    Paywalled
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/inside-the-all-blacks-machine-the-dramatic-real-reasons-ian-foster-wasnt-axed-as-all-blacks-coach/NXQLWQAIWVEB3O7OUF2D5TS3GI/

    What complete fuck feast,Not hard to see who is in charge and its not the board.

    What's wrong, this is NZ Hurld write up, so if you take it as accurate (there is a first time for those pricks) I see nothing exciting, basically what do they say that nobody knows (or more likely thought they knew) unless it was the fact that Schmidt didn't want to work with Razor (same as Tony Brown). Nothing very exciting in it.

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      Asterik6
      wrote on last edited by Asterik6
      #3728

      "Robertson’s ‘in principle’ team was deemed to lack heavyweight international experience."

      Scott Hansen was Japan's defence coach in 2018 and 2019 World Cup.

      Jason Ryan was Fiji's forwards coach for the last 2 years.

      Jason Holland was Munster's attack coach for 4 seasons (2008-2012).

      Scott Robertson, Leon McDonald & Jason Ryan were NZ U20's assistant coaches under Boyd - in 2013 and 2014.

      Razor then became head coach for 2015 and 2016 - while Jason Ryan and McDonald remained on the coaching staff.

      So that's another 4 seasons of 'international experience' with NZ U20's at Junior World Championships.

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      • P ploughboy

        @Chris said in Foster:

        @Machpants said in Foster:

        Apparently, the reasons that fucking foster stayed were:

        1. Razor's 'in principle' team lacked international experience, so NZR wanted Schmidt in on it. He met Razor (as ordered by NZR), and then said 'no' - not due to not wanting to work with Razor, but because he thought it was pretty shitty for him to be talking to a potential replacement whilst working for Foster. Loyalty said he would stay.
        2. Great result SA 2
        3. Senior players loving getting picked no matter what and publicly backing him

        Overall what a cluster, who the fuck is in charge? Not NZR, Robinson, or the Board!

        Paywalled
        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/inside-the-all-blacks-machine-the-dramatic-real-reasons-ian-foster-wasnt-axed-as-all-blacks-coach/NXQLWQAIWVEB3O7OUF2D5TS3GI/

        What complete fuck feast,Not hard to see who is in charge and its not the board.

        i though you would know all this

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        Chris
        wrote on last edited by
        #3729

        @ploughboy said in Foster:

        @Chris said in Foster:

        @Machpants said in Foster:

        Apparently, the reasons that fucking foster stayed were:

        1. Razor's 'in principle' team lacked international experience, so NZR wanted Schmidt in on it. He met Razor (as ordered by NZR), and then said 'no' - not due to not wanting to work with Razor, but because he thought it was pretty shitty for him to be talking to a potential replacement whilst working for Foster. Loyalty said he would stay.
        2. Great result SA 2
        3. Senior players loving getting picked no matter what and publicly backing him

        Overall what a cluster, who the fuck is in charge? Not NZR, Robinson, or the Board!

        Paywalled
        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/inside-the-all-blacks-machine-the-dramatic-real-reasons-ian-foster-wasnt-axed-as-all-blacks-coach/NXQLWQAIWVEB3O7OUF2D5TS3GI/

        What complete fuck feast,Not hard to see who is in charge and its not the board.

        i though you would know all this

        I do, just commenting on the retarded fucks

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        • Dan54D Dan54

          @Chris said in Foster:

          @Machpants said in Foster:

          Apparently, the reasons that fucking foster stayed were:

          1. Razor's 'in principle' team lacked international experience, so NZR wanted Schmidt in on it. He met Razor (as ordered by NZR), and then said 'no' - not due to not wanting to work with Razor, but because he thought it was pretty shitty for him to be talking to a potential replacement whilst working for Foster. Loyalty said he would stay.
          2. Great result SA 2
          3. Senior players loving getting picked no matter what and publicly backing him

          Overall what a cluster, who the fuck is in charge? Not NZR, Robinson, or the Board!

          Paywalled
          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/inside-the-all-blacks-machine-the-dramatic-real-reasons-ian-foster-wasnt-axed-as-all-blacks-coach/NXQLWQAIWVEB3O7OUF2D5TS3GI/

          What complete fuck feast,Not hard to see who is in charge and its not the board.

          What's wrong, this is NZ Hurld write up, so if you take it as accurate (there is a first time for those pricks) I see nothing exciting, basically what do they say that nobody knows (or more likely thought they knew) unless it was the fact that Schmidt didn't want to work with Razor (same as Tony Brown). Nothing very exciting in it.

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          Chris
          wrote on last edited by Chris
          #3730

          @Dan54 said in Foster:

          @Chris said in Foster:

          @Machpants said in Foster:

          Apparently, the reasons that fucking foster stayed were:

          1. Razor's 'in principle' team lacked international experience, so NZR wanted Schmidt in on it. He met Razor (as ordered by NZR), and then said 'no' - not due to not wanting to work with Razor, but because he thought it was pretty shitty for him to be talking to a potential replacement whilst working for Foster. Loyalty said he would stay.
          2. Great result SA 2
          3. Senior players loving getting picked no matter what and publicly backing him

          Overall what a cluster, who the fuck is in charge? Not NZR, Robinson, or the Board!

          Paywalled
          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/inside-the-all-blacks-machine-the-dramatic-real-reasons-ian-foster-wasnt-axed-as-all-blacks-coach/NXQLWQAIWVEB3O7OUF2D5TS3GI/

          What complete fuck feast,Not hard to see who is in charge and its not the board.

          What's wrong, this is NZ Hurld write up, so if you take it as accurate (there is a first time for those pricks) I see nothing exciting, basically what do they say that nobody knows (or more likely thought they knew) unless it was the fact that Schmidt didn't want to work with Razor (same as Tony Brown). Nothing very exciting in it.

          if you can't see what's wrong then no point explaining it to you.

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            KiwiMurph
            wrote on last edited by
            #3731

            They were never going to can Foster after the Ellis Park win. That saved his job.

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            • ChrisC Chris

              @ploughboy said in Foster:

              @Chris said in Foster:

              @Machpants said in Foster:

              Apparently, the reasons that fucking foster stayed were:

              1. Razor's 'in principle' team lacked international experience, so NZR wanted Schmidt in on it. He met Razor (as ordered by NZR), and then said 'no' - not due to not wanting to work with Razor, but because he thought it was pretty shitty for him to be talking to a potential replacement whilst working for Foster. Loyalty said he would stay.
              2. Great result SA 2
              3. Senior players loving getting picked no matter what and publicly backing him

              Overall what a cluster, who the fuck is in charge? Not NZR, Robinson, or the Board!

              Paywalled
              https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/inside-the-all-blacks-machine-the-dramatic-real-reasons-ian-foster-wasnt-axed-as-all-blacks-coach/NXQLWQAIWVEB3O7OUF2D5TS3GI/

              What complete fuck feast,Not hard to see who is in charge and its not the board.

              i though you would know all this

              I do, just commenting on the retarded fucks

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              ploughboy
              wrote on last edited by
              #3732

              @Chris said in Foster:

              @ploughboy said in Foster:

              @Chris said in Foster:

              @Machpants said in Foster:

              Apparently, the reasons that fucking foster stayed were:

              1. Razor's 'in principle' team lacked international experience, so NZR wanted Schmidt in on it. He met Razor (as ordered by NZR), and then said 'no' - not due to not wanting to work with Razor, but because he thought it was pretty shitty for him to be talking to a potential replacement whilst working for Foster. Loyalty said he would stay.
              2. Great result SA 2
              3. Senior players loving getting picked no matter what and publicly backing him

              Overall what a cluster, who the fuck is in charge? Not NZR, Robinson, or the Board!

              Paywalled
              https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/inside-the-all-blacks-machine-the-dramatic-real-reasons-ian-foster-wasnt-axed-as-all-blacks-coach/NXQLWQAIWVEB3O7OUF2D5TS3GI/

              What complete fuck feast,Not hard to see who is in charge and its not the board.

              i though you would know all this

              I do, just commenting on the retarded fucks

              yeah was commenting on the bit of schmidt haveing a chat with robertson and why he did not get job

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              • ChrisC Chris

                @Dan54 said in Foster:

                @Chris said in Foster:

                @Machpants said in Foster:

                Apparently, the reasons that fucking foster stayed were:

                1. Razor's 'in principle' team lacked international experience, so NZR wanted Schmidt in on it. He met Razor (as ordered by NZR), and then said 'no' - not due to not wanting to work with Razor, but because he thought it was pretty shitty for him to be talking to a potential replacement whilst working for Foster. Loyalty said he would stay.
                2. Great result SA 2
                3. Senior players loving getting picked no matter what and publicly backing him

                Overall what a cluster, who the fuck is in charge? Not NZR, Robinson, or the Board!

                Paywalled
                https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/inside-the-all-blacks-machine-the-dramatic-real-reasons-ian-foster-wasnt-axed-as-all-blacks-coach/NXQLWQAIWVEB3O7OUF2D5TS3GI/

                What complete fuck feast,Not hard to see who is in charge and its not the board.

                What's wrong, this is NZ Hurld write up, so if you take it as accurate (there is a first time for those pricks) I see nothing exciting, basically what do they say that nobody knows (or more likely thought they knew) unless it was the fact that Schmidt didn't want to work with Razor (same as Tony Brown). Nothing very exciting in it.

                if you can't see what's wrong then no point explaining it to you.

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                Dan54
                wrote on last edited by
                #3733

                @Chris said in Foster:

                @Dan54 said in Foster:

                @Chris said in Foster:

                @Machpants said in Foster:

                Apparently, the reasons that fucking foster stayed were:

                1. Razor's 'in principle' team lacked international experience, so NZR wanted Schmidt in on it. He met Razor (as ordered by NZR), and then said 'no' - not due to not wanting to work with Razor, but because he thought it was pretty shitty for him to be talking to a potential replacement whilst working for Foster. Loyalty said he would stay.
                2. Great result SA 2
                3. Senior players loving getting picked no matter what and publicly backing him

                Overall what a cluster, who the fuck is in charge? Not NZR, Robinson, or the Board!

                Paywalled
                https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/inside-the-all-blacks-machine-the-dramatic-real-reasons-ian-foster-wasnt-axed-as-all-blacks-coach/NXQLWQAIWVEB3O7OUF2D5TS3GI/

                What complete fuck feast,Not hard to see who is in charge and its not the board.

                What's wrong, this is NZ Hurld write up, so if you take it as accurate (there is a first time for those pricks) I see nothing exciting, basically what do they say that nobody knows (or more likely thought they knew) unless it was the fact that Schmidt didn't want to work with Razor (same as Tony Brown). Nothing very exciting in it.

                if you can't see what's wrong then no point explaining it to you.

                No probably not, just let's say you found some new facts, I didn't. So I don't get too upset.

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                  Nepia
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #3734

                  So who are the senior players getting picked that are having all this influence? A fair few of them would be Cantabs - Taylor, Whitelock, S Barrett, Mo, plus Cane, Savea, BBBR, BB, Rieko maybe?

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                  • NepiaN Nepia

                    So who are the senior players getting picked that are having all this influence? A fair few of them would be Cantabs - Taylor, Whitelock, S Barrett, Mo, plus Cane, Savea, BBBR, BB, Rieko maybe?

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                    Chris
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #3735

                    @Nepia said in Foster:

                    So who are the senior players getting picked that are having all this influence? A fair few of them would be Cantabs - Taylor, Whitelock, S Barrett, Mo, plus Cane, Savea, BBBR, BB, Rieko maybe?

                    Coles,Smith,
                    Would be in that mix as well.

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                    • ChrisC Chris

                      @Nepia said in Foster:

                      So who are the senior players getting picked that are having all this influence? A fair few of them would be Cantabs - Taylor, Whitelock, S Barrett, Mo, plus Cane, Savea, BBBR, BB, Rieko maybe?

                      Coles,Smith,
                      Would be in that mix as well.

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                      Number 10
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #3736

                      This is the NZ Herald article by Gregor Paul

                      Screenshot 2022-10-29 at 6.17.08 PM.png

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                        Billy Tell
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #3737

                        Paul has become a bit insufferable

                        “10 things you don’t know about the ABs”
                        “The REAL reason Aaron Smith has a bullet pass”
                        “What the Barrett’s mum cooked to feed her hungry boys”

                        And so on. AKA click-bait

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                        • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                          Paul has become a bit insufferable

                          “10 things you don’t know about the ABs”
                          “The REAL reason Aaron Smith has a bullet pass”
                          “What the Barrett’s mum cooked to feed her hungry boys”

                          And so on. AKA click-bait

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                          nzzp
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #3738

                          @Billy-Tell said in Foster:

                          Paul has become a bit insufferable

                          “10 things you don’t know about the ABs”
                          “The REAL reason Aaron Smith has a bullet pass”
                          “What the Barrett’s mum cooked to feed her hungry boys”

                          And so on. AKA click-bait

                          those links didn't work bro

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                          • nzzpN nzzp

                            @Billy-Tell said in Foster:

                            Paul has become a bit insufferable

                            “10 things you don’t know about the ABs”
                            “The REAL reason Aaron Smith has a bullet pass”
                            “What the Barrett’s mum cooked to feed her hungry boys”

                            And so on. AKA click-bait

                            those links didn't work bro

                            CatograndeC Online
                            CatograndeC Online
                            Catogrande
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #3739

                            @nzzp said in Foster:

                            @Billy-Tell said in Foster:

                            Paul has become a bit insufferable

                            “10 things you don’t know about the ABs”
                            “The REAL reason Aaron Smith has a bullet pass”
                            “What the Barrett’s mum cooked to feed her hungry boys”

                            And so on. AKA click-bait

                            those links didn't work bro

                            Count your blessings

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                            • Number 10N Number 10

                              This is the NZ Herald article by Gregor Paul

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                              Screenshot 2022-10-29 at 6.18.01 PM.png
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                              chchfanatic
                              wrote on last edited by chchfanatic
                              #3740

                              @Number-10 love for razors side to come out. It will one day. First he has world cups to win. Wether it’s with the all blacks or England.
                              Why is NZR putting so much weight on Schmidt’s opinion. What has he ever won. If anyone listened to razors interview on Senz the other morning , then they’ll agree he’s the man for the job.

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                              • C chchfanatic

                                @Number-10 love for razors side to come out. It will one day. First he has world cups to win. Wether it’s with the all blacks or England.
                                Why is NZR putting so much weight on Schmidt’s opinion. What has he ever won. If anyone listened to razors interview on Senz the other morning , then they’ll agree he’s the man for the job.

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                                canefan
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #3741

                                @chchfanatic said in Foster:

                                @Number-10 love for razors side to come out. It will one day. First he has world cups to win. Wether it’s with the all blacks or England.
                                Why is NZR putting so much weight on Schmidt’s opinion. What has he ever won. If anyone listened to razors interview on Senz the other morning , then they’ll agree he’s the man for the job.

                                I hope for our sake NRU have told him the job is his post RWC23.

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                                • canefanC canefan

                                  @chchfanatic said in Foster:

                                  @Number-10 love for razors side to come out. It will one day. First he has world cups to win. Wether it’s with the all blacks or England.
                                  Why is NZR putting so much weight on Schmidt’s opinion. What has he ever won. If anyone listened to razors interview on Senz the other morning , then they’ll agree he’s the man for the job.

                                  I hope for our sake NRU have told him the job is his post RWC23.

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                                  ploughboy
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #3742

                                  @canefan said in Foster:

                                  @chchfanatic said in Foster:

                                  @Number-10 love for razors side to come out. It will one day. First he has world cups to win. Wether it’s with the all blacks or England.
                                  Why is NZR putting so much weight on Schmidt’s opinion. What has he ever won. If anyone listened to razors interview on Senz the other morning , then they’ll agree he’s the man for the job.

                                  I hope for our sake NRU have told him the job is his post RWC23.

                                  joesph /brown/mitchel sounds good

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                                  • C chchfanatic

                                    @Number-10 love for razors side to come out. It will one day. First he has world cups to win. Wether it’s with the all blacks or England.
                                    Why is NZR putting so much weight on Schmidt’s opinion. What has he ever won. If anyone listened to razors interview on Senz the other morning , then they’ll agree he’s the man for the job.

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                                    Crucial
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #3743

                                    @chchfanatic said in Foster:

                                    @Number-10 love for razors side to come out. It will one day. First he has world cups to win. Wether it’s with the all blacks or England.
                                    Why is NZR putting so much weight on Schmidt’s opinion.

                                    The NH experience is obviously something they see as critical to the position.
                                    Whether that is the right thing doesn't matter. As an organisation they have been burned before with very good NZ coaches without considerable insight into the NH game and are obviously reluctant to go down that path again without at least bringing someone like Joe into the mix.

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                                      taniwharugby
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #3744

                                      https://www.1news.co.nz/2022/10/27/scott-robertson-im-here-and-ready-for-the-all-blacks-job/

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                                      • CrucialC Crucial

                                        @chchfanatic said in Foster:

                                        @Number-10 love for razors side to come out. It will one day. First he has world cups to win. Wether it’s with the all blacks or England.
                                        Why is NZR putting so much weight on Schmidt’s opinion.

                                        The NH experience is obviously something they see as critical to the position.
                                        Whether that is the right thing doesn't matter. As an organisation they have been burned before with very good NZ coaches without considerable insight into the NH game and are obviously reluctant to go down that path again without at least bringing someone like Joe into the mix.

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                                        Chris
                                        wrote on last edited by Chris
                                        #3745

                                        @Crucial said in Foster:

                                        @chchfanatic said in Foster:

                                        @Number-10 love for razors side to come out. It will one day. First he has world cups to win. Wether it’s with the all blacks or England.
                                        Why is NZR putting so much weight on Schmidt’s opinion.

                                        The NH experience is obviously something they see as critical to the position.
                                        Whether that is the right thing doesn't matter. As an organisation they have been burned before with very good NZ coaches without considerable insight into the NH game and are obviously reluctant to go down that path again without at least bringing someone like Joe into the mix.

                                        That seems to be working well over the last few years.
                                        Record loses,losing to teams we never have before.Losing the last WC.As Joseph said no one is scared of the AB's anymore they are just another average team there to beat.
                                        We will not win the 2023 WC either.
                                        The AB reputation has been fucked right up.

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                                          Hooroo
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #3746

                                          Won Championship, retained bled, 100% record on Northern Hemisphere tour so far.

                                          No worries.

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