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    Zion Going returning to Utah Warriors.

    It still amazes me how many players get signed in the MLR who don't even play at NPC level.

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      Have many of the LA and Austin players moved to other MLR teams? I had a quick scan of their rosters, and there weren't too many NZ players affected. But there are some current USA players in their squads.

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      • BovidaeB Bovidae

        Have many of the LA and Austin players moved to other MLR teams? I had a quick scan of their rosters, and there weren't too many NZ players affected. But there are some current USA players in their squads.

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        @Bovidae I haven't specifically noticed players from those teams moving to other teams (haven't really paid attention to it either), but I have noticed generally that some teams announced the departure of players to other teams for salary cap reasons, and that obviously is related to the LA and Austin issues.

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          Jamie Lane will also return to Utah Warriors.

          https://www.warriorsrugby.com/news/five-warriors-poised-for-a-breakout-2023-season/

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            Hawke's Bay prop Joel Hintz has signed with NE Free Jacks in MLR.

            https://freejacks.com/featured-news/free-jacks-sign-hawkes-bay-joel-hintz/

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              They're rolling in fast now, those announcements.

              Ben Strang has signed with Atlanta.

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              • MN5M MN5

                @Stargazer said in Exodus:

                Ma'a Nonu going back for another season with San Diego Legion in the MLR:

                Even seeing him walking through town recently trying to look all small and inconspicuous with the hoodie up and at the age of 40 he still looks a better bet than any AB midfielder we have currently.

                He’s one of the only guys I can think of that maxed out on every Rugby skill there is to have.

                God I miss Ma’a…..

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                @MN5 said in Exodus:

                @Stargazer said in Exodus:

                Ma'a Nonu going back for another season with San Diego Legion in the MLR:

                Even seeing him walking through town recently trying to look all small and inconspicuous with the hoodie up and at the age of 40 he still looks a better bet than any AB midfielder we have currently.

                He’s one of the only guys I can think of that maxed out on every Rugby skill there is to have.

                God I miss Ma’a…..

                Absolute legend. 40 years old? Wow, good on him.

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                • BovidaeB Bovidae

                  There seems to be less players hanging around for only a WTG spot than in recent years. Money talks.

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                  @Bovidae

                  Wider guys are on weekly contracts with no guarantees for pay.

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                    @Bovidae

                    Wider guys are on weekly contracts with no guarantees for pay.

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                    @muddyriver said in Exodus:

                    @Bovidae

                    Wider guys are on weekly contracts with no guarantees for pay.

                    Didn’t realise that

                    Do you know if it’s the same for every wider group player? For instance it would make sense for the Blues to have another specialist lock hang around the group.. would they ever give one guy a 3 month contract? Or is that not allowed?

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                    • StargazerS Stargazer

                      Zion Going returning to Utah Warriors.

                      It still amazes me how many players get signed in the MLR who don't even play at NPC level.

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                      Steven Harris
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                      @Stargazer Zion was part of the Northland HP squad last year but was’nt selected when the final cut for the Taniwha came around so headed off to the MLR ,came back to club footy this year and looked a completely different player for his Mid Northern team who took out the Northland club comp this year .
                      You are right there many players who don’t play NPC that pick up contracts in the MLR , I have heard the level is similar to heartland rugby but that was a few years ago , since then the standard may have improved.

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                      • DuluthD Duluth

                        @muddyriver said in Exodus:

                        @Bovidae

                        Wider guys are on weekly contracts with no guarantees for pay.

                        Didn’t realise that

                        Do you know if it’s the same for every wider group player? For instance it would make sense for the Blues to have another specialist lock hang around the group.. would they ever give one guy a 3 month contract? Or is that not allowed?

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                        Steven Harris
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                        @Duluth I have heard Liam Hallam Eames is heading off to the MLR
                        Sam Caird I believe is first cab of the rank if there is required injury cover or full cover in the Blues.
                        Allen Craig had a solid season for the Taniwha and we saw some added physicality but I do wonder if his height might be against him in the upside has a great work rate .

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                          Any one know if Danny Drake is hanging around?

                          Wikipedia claims that Jacob Pierce is eligible for Japan, so he might stay there permanently.

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                            @Bovidae

                            Wider guys are on weekly contracts with no guarantees for pay.

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                            @muddyriver said in Exodus:

                            @Bovidae

                            Wider guys are on weekly contracts with no guarantees for pay.

                            Any idea what a MLR contract is worth?

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                            • BovidaeB Bovidae

                              @muddyriver said in Exodus:

                              @Bovidae

                              Wider guys are on weekly contracts with no guarantees for pay.

                              Any idea what a MLR contract is worth?

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                              muddyriver
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                              @Bovidae hard to say what guys like Maa get.

                              Lower level kiwi guys have said 15-25k usd

                              With all living costs paid for. Not huge wickets. Some guys would get maybe double that.

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                              • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                @muddyriver said in Exodus:

                                @Bovidae

                                Wider guys are on weekly contracts with no guarantees for pay.

                                Any idea what a MLR contract is worth?

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                                frugby
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                                @Bovidae I've heard as much as 30k USD

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                                  @Bovidae

                                  Wider guys are on weekly contracts with no guarantees for pay.

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                                  @muddyriver You sure about this? I have heard NZR pay a pool of players to train full time in the case of injuries.

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                                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                    @muddyriver said in Exodus:

                                    @Bovidae

                                    Wider guys are on weekly contracts with no guarantees for pay.

                                    Any idea what a MLR contract is worth?

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                                    @Bovidae anything from 13k -45k , there is a salary cap
                                    Star players can earn up to a capped maximum of 45k per season
                                    Senior players with international experience 20k-30k
                                    Mid range players with first class experience ,anything between 10k to 20k
                                    Part time players are on a week to week basis salary
                                    @muddyriver , your pretty much on the mark

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                                      And here's another one:

                                      Manawatū hooker Siua Maile has signed with Benetton (one season plus option for a second).

                                      https://benettonrugby.it/siua-maile-e-un-nuovo-tallonatore-dei-leoni/

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                                        @Bovidae anything from 13k -45k , there is a salary cap
                                        Star players can earn up to a capped maximum of 45k per season
                                        Senior players with international experience 20k-30k
                                        Mid range players with first class experience ,anything between 10k to 20k
                                        Part time players are on a week to week basis salary
                                        @muddyriver , your pretty much on the mark

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                                        @Steven-Harris said in Exodus:

                                        @Bovidae anything from 13k -45k , there is a salary cap
                                        Star players can earn up to a capped maximum of 45k per season
                                        Senior players with international experience 20k-30k
                                        Mid range players with first class experience ,anything between 10k to 20k
                                        Part time players are on a week to week basis salary
                                        @muddyriver , your pretty much on the mark

                                        Interesting. I posed similar question to a group I am involved with. The number of kiwis in MLR this year is huge and growing. It is a decent off season earner and the standard has to be better than Heartland now.

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                                        • MN5M MN5

                                          @Higgins said in Exodus:

                                          @Kiwiwomble They have seriously miscalculated their new signings height by about ten or fifteen centimetres.

                                          Speaking of ex Hurricanes growing has anyone seen Neemia Tialata lately ?

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                                          @MN5 Sorry bit slow Re the Tialata post yeah I see him nearly every day his girl goes to my kids school he’s huge!

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