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  • KirwanK Kirwan

    @booboo said in All Blacks vs Wales:

    @Kirwan said in All Blacks vs Wales:

    Pleased they are sticking with JB at 12, could be the way forward from here on.

    I can understand the workload thing for ST, but Taylor is a big drop down these days.

    Interesting that Christie can get dropped for a poor performance against Japan, but Frizzell stinking up the joint does not. Made no impact with his supposed power game against a pretty small Japan side.

    Similar to JB at 12, it's time to play Akira at 6 - same with Dalton at 7 and start building that combo. I like what the other posters above mentioned with Sotutu being on the bench instead, gives options for real impact from the bench combined with impact from the start.

    Dropped? Was he ever a realistic chance to start?

    Umm, he was a realistic chance to be on the bench instead of Weber. He's been dropped from the 23.

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    @Kirwan said in All Blacks vs Wales:

    @booboo said in All Blacks vs Wales:

    @Kirwan said in All Blacks vs Wales:

    Pleased they are sticking with JB at 12, could be the way forward from here on.

    I can understand the workload thing for ST, but Taylor is a big drop down these days.

    Interesting that Christie can get dropped for a poor performance against Japan, but Frizzell stinking up the joint does not. Made no impact with his supposed power game against a pretty small Japan side.

    Similar to JB at 12, it's time to play Akira at 6 - same with Dalton at 7 and start building that combo. I like what the other posters above mentioned with Sotutu being on the bench instead, gives options for real impact from the bench combined with impact from the start.

    Dropped? Was he ever a realistic chance to start?

    Umm, he was a realistic chance to be on the bench instead of Weber. He's been dropped from the 23.

    Question was asked and answered in the presser.
    It’s more a case of giving him some game time as compensation for pulling him from the XV than it is a judgment on FC

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      Workload for ST eh. Because he'd played so much rugby up until last week and couldn't get a rest against Scotland? It's the same reason Foster used for Ireland 3....in other words, habullshit.

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      • antipodeanA Online
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        @Duluth said in All Blacks vs Wales:

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        There's a few people with egg on their faces after that naming.

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        • antipodeanA antipodean

          @Duluth said in All Blacks vs Wales:

          FgotMGPWQAEree2.jpg

          There's a few people with egg on their faces after that naming.

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          @antipodean just call me Mr Omelette

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            Farking Frizzel. He's had like one OK game against SA, and loads of anonymous performances, and just continues to get selected. Meanwhile Akira has had multiple MOTM performances and can't get consistent gametime. That just boggles my mind, the only way Akira is going to get more consistent with his performances is by playing him as much as possible. His ceiling is so much higher than Frizzel's it's not even funny.

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              Stoked with the backline though. Excited for this one

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              • antipodeanA antipodean

                @Duluth said in All Blacks vs Wales:

                FgotMGPWQAEree2.jpg

                There's a few people with egg on their faces after that naming.

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                @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Wales:

                @Duluth said in All Blacks vs Wales:

                FgotMGPWQAEree2.jpg

                There's a few people with egg on their faces after that naming.

                JB good
                Codie not good

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                • No QuarterN No Quarter

                  Farking Frizzel. He's had like one OK game against SA, and loads of anonymous performances, and just continues to get selected. Meanwhile Akira has had multiple MOTM performances and can't get consistent gametime. That just boggles my mind, the only way Akira is going to get more consistent with his performances is by playing him as much as possible. His ceiling is so much higher than Frizzel's it's not even funny.

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                  @No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs Wales:

                  Farking Frizzel. He's had like one OK game against SA, and loads of anonymous performances, and just continues to get selected. Meanwhile Akira has had multiple MOTM performances and can't get consistent gametime. That just boggles my mind, the only way Akira is going to get more consistent with his performances is by playing him as much as possible. His ceiling is so much higher than Frizzel's it's not even funny.

                  Is that sarcasm or are you serious?

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                  • A ARHS

                    @No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs Wales:

                    Farking Frizzel. He's had like one OK game against SA, and loads of anonymous performances, and just continues to get selected. Meanwhile Akira has had multiple MOTM performances and can't get consistent gametime. That just boggles my mind, the only way Akira is going to get more consistent with his performances is by playing him as much as possible. His ceiling is so much higher than Frizzel's it's not even funny.

                    Is that sarcasm or are you serious?

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                    @ARHS no you’re right, Frizzell has been awesome. I really enjoyed when he subbed on and immediately passed to an Irish player to give up a try. Or as a sub he jogged back on defence and just watched the opposition score. Or got creased by a back in the Argentina game. Just excellent stuff.

                    That’s sarcasm.

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                    • KirwanK Kirwan

                      @ARHS no you’re right, Frizzell has been awesome. I really enjoyed when he subbed on and immediately passed to an Irish player to give up a try. Or as a sub he jogged back on defence and just watched the opposition score. Or got creased by a back in the Argentina game. Just excellent stuff.

                      That’s sarcasm.

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                      @Kirwan Lol. That made me laugh. It would be hilarious if it wasn't so true

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                        Neither frizzell nor akira are particularly amazing. From what I’ve seen frizzell shades it but then I’m not a blues supporter. Akira is like one of those lads that tears it up at schoolboy level then never really kicks on. It’s far from a scandal that frizzell has been picked to start.

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                        • P pakman

                          @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Wales:

                          @Crucial said in All Blacks vs Wales:

                          @Bovidae said in All Blacks vs Wales:

                          The omens are not good. 🙂

                          England referee Wayne Barnes will mark his 100th Test at Cardiff on Sunday (NZT) by starting the game with the whistle used in the famous 1905 Test between Wales and the All Blacks.
                          Wales won 3-0, but the game has forever been remembered for the non-awarding of a try to All Blacks centre Bob Deans who maintained, until his premature death in 1908 from complications after an appendix operation, that he had scored a fair try.

                          Barnes, Cardiff, Deans.....what could go wrong?

                          And I got a ticket and I’m going to wear my lucky pants

                          You're screwed then! I'm having to drive because the train unions decided to celebrate Guy Fawkes at home with the kids.

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                          @pakman said in All Blacks vs Wales:

                          @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Wales:

                          my lucky pants

                          You're screwed then!

                          So not for rugby then..

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                          • boobooB booboo

                            @game_film said in All Blacks vs Wales:

                            Reckon Samisoni is on the bench in the Malcolm Marx role and we might see him after 30 mins if Codie isn’t firing. If Codie goes well then leaves him fresher to cause havoc.

                            Ridiculous idea. Should never even be suggested.

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                            @booboo don’t shoot the messenger! I’m just trying to rationalise it.

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                            • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                              @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Wales:

                              Will be interesting when Havili and ALB come on and at what positions.

                              It certainly covers all bases especially with ALB back and we have genuine centre cover. Quinn or LF may be that player in the future.

                              Clarke or Reece get injured or replaced, Ioane to wing and ALB to centre.

                              Richie or Beaudie and Havili comes on and Jordie moves to fullback.

                              I know many don’t like the two changes when a replacement comes on, but such is the game these days given the bench is not just about injury replacements. Versatility is critical with both starters and bench players.

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                              @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Wales:

                              Richie or Beaudie and Havili comes on and Jordie moves to fullback.

                              Also give the team & Jordie confidence at 12. if they find things aren't going well at 12, they can slot him back at 15.

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                              • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                                Neither frizzell nor akira are particularly amazing. From what I’ve seen frizzell shades it but then I’m not a blues supporter. Akira is like one of those lads that tears it up at schoolboy level then never really kicks on. It’s far from a scandal that frizzell has been picked to start.

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                                @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks vs Wales:

                                Akira is like one of those lads that tears it up at schoolboy level then never really kicks on.

                                Lol you make it out like he barely made it to NPC level 🤣

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                                • TheMojomanT TheMojoman

                                  @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Wales:

                                  @Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Wales:

                                  @WillieTheWaiter And why I think Frizell will be in team, he carries in close and usually will get over advantage line. Why Barrett is good at 6 I think

                                  Saturday is counterpoint to that

                                  He had less run metres than runs

                                  Frizell is the modern day Reuben Thorne which isn’t all negative. You need the backrowers who do the dirty work, strong tackles, clean outs etc.

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                                  @TheMojoman said in All Blacks vs Wales:

                                  @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Wales:

                                  @Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Wales:

                                  @WillieTheWaiter And why I think Frizell will be in team, he carries in close and usually will get over advantage line. Why Barrett is good at 6 I think

                                  Saturday is counterpoint to that

                                  He had less run metres than runs

                                  Frizell is the modern day Reuben Thorne which isn’t all negative. You need the backrowers who do the dirty work, strong tackles, clean outs etc.

                                  Frizell also I guess will want to make an impression against the land of his father.

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                                  • pooler fanP pooler fan

                                    @TheMojoman said in All Blacks vs Wales:

                                    @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Wales:

                                    @Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Wales:

                                    @WillieTheWaiter And why I think Frizell will be in team, he carries in close and usually will get over advantage line. Why Barrett is good at 6 I think

                                    Saturday is counterpoint to that

                                    He had less run metres than runs

                                    Frizell is the modern day Reuben Thorne which isn’t all negative. You need the backrowers who do the dirty work, strong tackles, clean outs etc.

                                    Frizell also I guess will want to make an impression against the land of his father.

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                                    @pooler-fan said in All Blacks vs Wales:

                                    @TheMojoman said in All Blacks vs Wales:

                                    @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Wales:

                                    @Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Wales:

                                    @WillieTheWaiter And why I think Frizell will be in team, he carries in close and usually will get over advantage line. Why Barrett is good at 6 I think

                                    Saturday is counterpoint to that

                                    He had less run metres than runs

                                    Frizell is the modern day Reuben Thorne which isn’t all negative. You need the backrowers who do the dirty work, strong tackles, clean outs etc.

                                    Frizell also I guess will want to make an impression against the land of his father.

                                    His adoptive father I think?

                                    I hope Frizell has an awesome game, a game that the selectors and @Dan54 think he has regularly because we need that for the ABs to win. But, he mostly just looks busy but really is not often very effective.

                                    But he's clearly the coaches favourite son, any time he gets injured or bashes and terrorises people, he comes straight back in the moment he's available again.

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                                    • NepiaN Nepia

                                      @pooler-fan said in All Blacks vs Wales:

                                      @TheMojoman said in All Blacks vs Wales:

                                      @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Wales:

                                      @Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Wales:

                                      @WillieTheWaiter And why I think Frizell will be in team, he carries in close and usually will get over advantage line. Why Barrett is good at 6 I think

                                      Saturday is counterpoint to that

                                      He had less run metres than runs

                                      Frizell is the modern day Reuben Thorne which isn’t all negative. You need the backrowers who do the dirty work, strong tackles, clean outs etc.

                                      Frizell also I guess will want to make an impression against the land of his father.

                                      His adoptive father I think?

                                      I hope Frizell has an awesome game, a game that the selectors and @Dan54 think he has regularly because we need that for the ABs to win. But, he mostly just looks busy but really is not often very effective.

                                      But he's clearly the coaches favourite son, any time he gets injured or bashes and terrorises people, he comes straight back in the moment he's available again.

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                                      nostrildamus
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                                      @Nepia said in All Blacks vs Wales:

                                      @pooler-fan said in All Blacks vs Wales:

                                      @TheMojoman said in All Blacks vs Wales:

                                      @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Wales:

                                      @Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Wales:

                                      @WillieTheWaiter And why I think Frizell will be in team, he carries in close and usually will get over advantage line. Why Barrett is good at 6 I think

                                      Saturday is counterpoint to that

                                      He had less run metres than runs

                                      Frizell is the modern day Reuben Thorne which isn’t all negative. You need the backrowers who do the dirty work, strong tackles, clean outs etc.

                                      Frizell also I guess will want to make an impression against the land of his father.

                                      His adoptive father I think?

                                      I hope Frizell has an awesome game, a game that the selectors and @Dan54 think he has regularly because we need that for the ABs to win. But, he mostly just looks busy but really is not often very effective.

                                      But he's clearly the coaches favourite son, any time he gets injured or bashes and terrorises people, he comes straight back in the moment he's available again.

                                      but he did have a really good game on coming back then went back to mediocre. How annoying!

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                                      • NepiaN Nepia

                                        @pooler-fan said in All Blacks vs Wales:

                                        @TheMojoman said in All Blacks vs Wales:

                                        @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Wales:

                                        @Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Wales:

                                        @WillieTheWaiter And why I think Frizell will be in team, he carries in close and usually will get over advantage line. Why Barrett is good at 6 I think

                                        Saturday is counterpoint to that

                                        He had less run metres than runs

                                        Frizell is the modern day Reuben Thorne which isn’t all negative. You need the backrowers who do the dirty work, strong tackles, clean outs etc.

                                        Frizell also I guess will want to make an impression against the land of his father.

                                        His adoptive father I think?

                                        I hope Frizell has an awesome game, a game that the selectors and @Dan54 think he has regularly because we need that for the ABs to win. But, he mostly just looks busy but really is not often very effective.

                                        But he's clearly the coaches favourite son, any time he gets injured or bashes and terrorises people, he comes straight back in the moment he's available again.

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                                        @Nepia said in All Blacks vs Wales:

                                        @pooler-fan said in All Blacks vs Wales:

                                        @TheMojoman said in All Blacks vs Wales:

                                        @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Wales:

                                        @Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Wales:

                                        @WillieTheWaiter And why I think Frizell will be in team, he carries in close and usually will get over advantage line. Why Barrett is good at 6 I think

                                        Saturday is counterpoint to that

                                        He had less run metres than runs

                                        Frizell is the modern day Reuben Thorne which isn’t all negative. You need the backrowers who do the dirty work, strong tackles, clean outs etc.

                                        Frizell also I guess will want to make an impression against the land of his father.

                                        His adoptive father I think?

                                        I hope Frizell has an awesome game, a game that the selectors and @Dan54 think he has regularly because we need that for the ABs to win. But, he mostly just looks busy but really is not often very effective.

                                        But he's clearly the coaches favourite son, any time he gets injured or bashes and terrorises people, he comes straight back in the moment he's available again.

                                        You can take digs at me all you want Nepia, I think he best of our 6s we got at moment,(maybe apart from Barrett) not always shit hot, I just like a 6 who runs in closer.and just tries to make a metre or so with the pack hopefully close enough to take advantage. We already have Ardie running wider from 8, so we need a tighter 6 I reckon.

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                                        • Dan54D Dan54

                                          @Nepia said in All Blacks vs Wales:

                                          @pooler-fan said in All Blacks vs Wales:

                                          @TheMojoman said in All Blacks vs Wales:

                                          @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Wales:

                                          @Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Wales:

                                          @WillieTheWaiter And why I think Frizell will be in team, he carries in close and usually will get over advantage line. Why Barrett is good at 6 I think

                                          Saturday is counterpoint to that

                                          He had less run metres than runs

                                          Frizell is the modern day Reuben Thorne which isn’t all negative. You need the backrowers who do the dirty work, strong tackles, clean outs etc.

                                          Frizell also I guess will want to make an impression against the land of his father.

                                          His adoptive father I think?

                                          I hope Frizell has an awesome game, a game that the selectors and @Dan54 think he has regularly because we need that for the ABs to win. But, he mostly just looks busy but really is not often very effective.

                                          But he's clearly the coaches favourite son, any time he gets injured or bashes and terrorises people, he comes straight back in the moment he's available again.

                                          You can take digs at me all you want Nepia, I think he best of our 6s we got at moment,(maybe apart from Barrett) not always shit hot, I just like a 6 who runs in closer.and just tries to make a metre or so with the pack hopefully close enough to take advantage. We already have Ardie running wider from 8, so we need a tighter 6 I reckon.

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                                          @Dan54 It was just some friendly ribbing as you're his biggest fan here and on PR.

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