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All Blacks vs Scotland

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  • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

    Feel free to move this to Foster

    Been thinking about this whole coaching conundrum

    As far as I’m concerned you pick the best 23 available to you every match

    You can tinker with who starts and who finishes but you want your best charges present and correct at every opportunity

    But how do you blood new players I hear you ask?

    Ardie Savea is the best No 8 in the world at the moment

    If Sotutu is chosen ahead of him based on merit not rotation then Sotutu can rightfully feel he’s possibly the best No 8 in the world

    He’s trained day in day out with the best in the world (Savea) and been chosen ahead of him

    That’s all he needs to perform

    Not 10 minutes at the end of a match that’s already won against a side who are already beaten

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    #76

    @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

    Feel free to move this to Foster

    Been thinking about this whole coaching conundrum

    As far as I’m concerned you pick the best 23 available to you every match

    You can tinker with who starts and who finishes but you want your best charges present and correct at every opportunity

    But how do you blood new players I hear you ask?

    Ardie Savea is the best No 8 in the world at the moment

    If Sotutu is chosen ahead of him based on merit not rotation then Sotutu can rightfully feel he’s possibly the best No 8 in the world

    He’s trained day in day out with the best in the world (Savea) and been chosen ahead of him

    That’s all he needs to perform

    Not 10 minutes at the end of a match that’s already won against a side who are already beaten

    this is absolutely my opinion on "rotation" as well.

    with the slight caveat that at times, the best 23 for a weekend might be slightly different to the weekend before depending on who we are playing, or the fatigue status of a player

    Also, i don't think Savea is the best #8 in the world. Though he is the best A Savea in the world. And i have become comfortable with that. The coaches are just letting him roam around the field doing what he wants. He's not a 7, he's not an 8, he's not a 6. He just does shit. And that's pretty cool, because right now he is the difference maker in the pack. Build the other two loosies around him, and let him do his thing.

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    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

      https://mobile.twitter.com/Scotlandteam/status/1589582279180812289

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      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

      https://mobile.twitter.com/Scotlandteam/status/1589582279180812289

      Great news.

      Scotland by 50

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      • C cgrant

        @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

        Feel free to move this to Foster

        Been thinking about this whole coaching conundrum

        As far as I’m concerned you pick the best 23 available to you every match

        You can tinker with who starts and who finishes but you want your best charges present and correct at every opportunity

        But how do you blood new players I hear you ask?

        Ardie Savea is the best No 8 in the world at the moment

        If Sotutu is chosen ahead of him based on merit not rotation then Sotutu can rightfully feel he’s possibly the best No 8 in the world

        He’s trained day in day out with the best in the world (Savea) and been chosen ahead of him

        That’s all he needs to perform

        Not 10 minutes at the end of a match that’s already won against a side who are already beaten

        Alldritt is very close.

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        #78

        @cgrant said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

        @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

        Feel free to move this to Foster

        Been thinking about this whole coaching conundrum

        As far as I’m concerned you pick the best 23 available to you every match

        You can tinker with who starts and who finishes but you want your best charges present and correct at every opportunity

        But how do you blood new players I hear you ask?

        Ardie Savea is the best No 8 in the world at the moment

        If Sotutu is chosen ahead of him based on merit not rotation then Sotutu can rightfully feel he’s possibly the best No 8 in the world

        He’s trained day in day out with the best in the world (Savea) and been chosen ahead of him

        That’s all he needs to perform

        Not 10 minutes at the end of a match that’s already won against a side who are already beaten

        Alldritt is very close.

        France have always had some of my favourite number 8s. Harinordiquay, Chabal, Picamoles……what a bunch of talented psychos.

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        • MN5M MN5

          @cgrant said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

          @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

          Feel free to move this to Foster

          Been thinking about this whole coaching conundrum

          As far as I’m concerned you pick the best 23 available to you every match

          You can tinker with who starts and who finishes but you want your best charges present and correct at every opportunity

          But how do you blood new players I hear you ask?

          Ardie Savea is the best No 8 in the world at the moment

          If Sotutu is chosen ahead of him based on merit not rotation then Sotutu can rightfully feel he’s possibly the best No 8 in the world

          He’s trained day in day out with the best in the world (Savea) and been chosen ahead of him

          That’s all he needs to perform

          Not 10 minutes at the end of a match that’s already won against a side who are already beaten

          Alldritt is very close.

          France have always had some of my favourite number 8s. Harinordiquay, Chabal, Picamoles……what a bunch of talented psychos.

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          #79

          @MN5 said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

          @cgrant said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

          @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

          Feel free to move this to Foster

          Been thinking about this whole coaching conundrum

          As far as I’m concerned you pick the best 23 available to you every match

          You can tinker with who starts and who finishes but you want your best charges present and correct at every opportunity

          But how do you blood new players I hear you ask?

          Ardie Savea is the best No 8 in the world at the moment

          If Sotutu is chosen ahead of him based on merit not rotation then Sotutu can rightfully feel he’s possibly the best No 8 in the world

          He’s trained day in day out with the best in the world (Savea) and been chosen ahead of him

          That’s all he needs to perform

          Not 10 minutes at the end of a match that’s already won against a side who are already beaten

          Alldritt is very close.

          France have always had some of my favourite number 8s. Harinordiquay, Chabal, Picamoles……what a bunch of talented psychos.

          You ok Hun? You completely bypassed a chance to mention Cecillion.

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          • BonesB Bones

            @MN5 said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

            @cgrant said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

            @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

            Feel free to move this to Foster

            Been thinking about this whole coaching conundrum

            As far as I’m concerned you pick the best 23 available to you every match

            You can tinker with who starts and who finishes but you want your best charges present and correct at every opportunity

            But how do you blood new players I hear you ask?

            Ardie Savea is the best No 8 in the world at the moment

            If Sotutu is chosen ahead of him based on merit not rotation then Sotutu can rightfully feel he’s possibly the best No 8 in the world

            He’s trained day in day out with the best in the world (Savea) and been chosen ahead of him

            That’s all he needs to perform

            Not 10 minutes at the end of a match that’s already won against a side who are already beaten

            Alldritt is very close.

            France have always had some of my favourite number 8s. Harinordiquay, Chabal, Picamoles……what a bunch of talented psychos.

            You ok Hun? You completely bypassed a chance to mention Cecillion.

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            @Bones said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

            @MN5 said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

            @cgrant said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

            @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

            Feel free to move this to Foster

            Been thinking about this whole coaching conundrum

            As far as I’m concerned you pick the best 23 available to you every match

            You can tinker with who starts and who finishes but you want your best charges present and correct at every opportunity

            But how do you blood new players I hear you ask?

            Ardie Savea is the best No 8 in the world at the moment

            If Sotutu is chosen ahead of him based on merit not rotation then Sotutu can rightfully feel he’s possibly the best No 8 in the world

            He’s trained day in day out with the best in the world (Savea) and been chosen ahead of him

            That’s all he needs to perform

            Not 10 minutes at the end of a match that’s already won against a side who are already beaten

            Alldritt is very close.

            France have always had some of my favourite number 8s. Harinordiquay, Chabal, Picamoles……what a bunch of talented psychos.

            You ok Hun? You completely bypassed a chance to mention Cecillion.

            Good point. He fired more shots than any of them.

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            • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

              @canefan for players like them it becomes more mental fatigue with the intensity levels rather than the physical side of it, in my opinion of course.

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              #81

              @taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

              @canefan for players like them it becomes more mental fatigue with the intensity levels rather than the physical side of it, in my opinion of course.

              Don't the French players have over 30 matches per season?

              In comparison we play just 14 games of Super Rugby each year, it's laughable.

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              • kiwi_expatK kiwi_expat

                @taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

                @canefan for players like them it becomes more mental fatigue with the intensity levels rather than the physical side of it, in my opinion of course.

                Don't the French players have over 30 matches per season?

                In comparison we play just 14 games of Super Rugby each year, it's laughable.

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                #82

                @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

                @taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

                @canefan for players like them it becomes more mental fatigue with the intensity levels rather than the physical side of it, in my opinion of course.

                Don't the French players have over 30 matches per season?

                Our guys play just 14 games of Super Rugby each year....

                Plus tests plus pre season plus any npc... bunch of softies that (spit) Foster let's them get away with.

                Geez the French are awesome.

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                • boobooB booboo

                  @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

                  @taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

                  @canefan for players like them it becomes more mental fatigue with the intensity levels rather than the physical side of it, in my opinion of course.

                  Don't the French players have over 30 matches per season?

                  Our guys play just 14 games of Super Rugby each year....

                  Plus tests plus pre season plus any npc... bunch of softies that (spit) Foster let's them get away with.

                  Geez the French are awesome.

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                  #83

                  @booboo said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

                  @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

                  @taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

                  @canefan for players like them it becomes more mental fatigue with the intensity levels rather than the physical side of it, in my opinion of course.

                  Don't the French players have over 30 matches per season?

                  Our guys play just 14 games of Super Rugby each year....

                  Plus tests plus pre season plus any npc... bunch of softies that (spit) Foster let's them get away with.

                  Geez the French are awesome.

                  Kudos to the French players playing EVERY club match and EVERY test.

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                  • kiwi_expatK kiwi_expat

                    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

                    @canefan for players like them it becomes more mental fatigue with the intensity levels rather than the physical side of it, in my opinion of course.

                    Don't the French players have over 30 matches per season?

                    In comparison we play just 14 games of Super Rugby each year, it's laughable.

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                    #84

                    @kiwi_expat Don't the French clubs have far bigger squads and far more rotation? And the Top 14 continues during the test window, without their internationals.

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                    • StargazerS Stargazer

                      @kiwi_expat Don't the French clubs have far bigger squads and far more rotation? And the Top 14 continues during the test window, without their internationals.

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                      @Stargazer said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

                      @kiwi_expat Don't the French clubs have far bigger squads and far more rotation? And the Top 14 continues during the test window, without their internationals.

                      Foster apologist.

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                        Daffy Jaffy
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                        #86

                        No jersey clash this weekend -

                        78e5f430-9539-482a-a481-0296e6c634d8-image.png

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                        • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                          No jersey clash this weekend -

                          78e5f430-9539-482a-a481-0296e6c634d8-image.png

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                          @Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

                          No jersey clash this weekend -

                          78e5f430-9539-482a-a481-0296e6c634d8-image.png

                          Go the Blue Veins

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                            Traditional alternative Jersey's were as simple as fuck.

                            Is it really that hard?

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                            • boobooB booboo

                              Traditional alternative Jersey's were as simple as fuck.

                              Is it really that hard?

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                              #89

                              @booboo I don’t mind it because it does have some cultural/heritage significance with the purple and thistles.

                              Plus I’m sure the main sponsor Peter Vardy who is paying more than a million pounds a year won’t mind something a little different because it will get people focusing in on the jersey and hence their logo.

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                                The Scottish women wore the same colour jerseys when they played the Black Ferns.

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                                • boobooB booboo

                                  Traditional alternative Jersey's were as simple as fuck.

                                  Is it really that hard?

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                                  @booboo said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

                                  Traditional alternative Jersey's were as simple as fuck.

                                  Is it really that hard?

                                  Commercial realities. Change the away stripe every year so the punters want to buy them every year

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                                    Can we not just go back to this ? ( preferably with better Scottish defence )

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                                    • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                                      No jersey clash this weekend -

                                      78e5f430-9539-482a-a481-0296e6c634d8-image.png

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                                      @Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

                                      No jersey clash this weekend -

                                      78e5f430-9539-482a-a481-0296e6c634d8-image.png

                                      that's a pretty cool strip for Scotland to be fair.

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                                      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                        @Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

                                        No jersey clash this weekend -

                                        78e5f430-9539-482a-a481-0296e6c634d8-image.png

                                        that's a pretty cool strip for Scotland to be fair.

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                                        @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

                                        @Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

                                        No jersey clash this weekend -

                                        78e5f430-9539-482a-a481-0296e6c634d8-image.png

                                        that's a pretty cool strip for Scotland to be fair.

                                        Two words that aren’t usually in the same sentence

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                                        • MN5M MN5

                                          @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

                                          @Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

                                          No jersey clash this weekend -

                                          78e5f430-9539-482a-a481-0296e6c634d8-image.png

                                          that's a pretty cool strip for Scotland to be fair.

                                          Two words that aren’t usually in the same sentence

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                                          @MN5 too the contrary....scotland is often quite cool...:cloud_with_snow:

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