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  • sparkyS Offline
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    Perofeta and Ennor simply aren't All Black quality players in my opinion.

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    • sparkyS sparky

      I'd pick

      1. De Grott 2.Taylor 3. Ofa T 4. Vaii 5. Whitelock 6. A.Ioane 7 Papali'i 8. Sotutu 9. Weber 10. Mounga 11. C.Clarke 12. J. Barrett 13. ALB. 14. Reece 15. BB

      Bench Aumua, Bower, Laulala, S. Barrett, Frizzell, TJP, Havaii, Telea.

      Sami T, Lomax,Ardie Savea, Aaron Smith and Reiko Ioane get the week off so they're good to go against England

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      @sparky said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

      I'd pick

      1. De Grott 2.Taylor 3. Ofa T 4. Vaii 5. Whitelock 6. A.Ioane 7 Papali'i 8. Sotutu 9. Weber 10. Mounga 11. C.Clarke 12. J. Barrett 13. ALB. 14. Reece 15. BB

      Bench Aumua, Bower, Laulala, S. Barrett, Frizzell, TJP, Havaii, Telea.

      Sami T, Lomax,Ardie Savea, Aaron Smith and Reiko Ioane get the week off so they're good to go against England

      Doesn't make much sense to me to rest Taukieaho last week and then drop him all together this week.

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      • sparkyS sparky

        I'd pick

        1. De Grott 2.Taylor 3. Ofa T 4. Vaii 5. Whitelock 6. A.Ioane 7 Papali'i 8. Sotutu 9. Weber 10. Mounga 11. C.Clarke 12. J. Barrett 13. ALB. 14. Reece 15. BB

        Bench Aumua, Bower, Laulala, S. Barrett, Frizzell, TJP, Havaii, Telea.

        Sami T, Lomax,Ardie Savea, Aaron Smith and Reiko Ioane get the week off so they're good to go against England

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        #65

        @sparky said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

        I'd pick

        1. De Grott 2.Taylor 3. Ofa T 4. Vaii 5. Whitelock 6. A.Ioane 7 Papali'i 8. Sotutu 9. Weber 10. Mounga 11. C.Clarke 12. J. Barrett 13. ALB. 14. Reece 15. BB

        Bench Aumua, Bower, Laulala, S. Barrett, Frizzell, TJP, Havaii, Telea.

        Sami T, Lomax,Ardie Savea, Aaron Smith and Reiko Ioane get the week off so they're good to go against England

        Weber not available - rotated to ABXV.

        Can't pick too many other holes. But could say that for any number of combos.

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        • BonesB Bones

          @sparky said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

          I'd pick

          1. De Grott 2.Taylor 3. Ofa T 4. Vaii 5. Whitelock 6. A.Ioane 7 Papali'i 8. Sotutu 9. Weber 10. Mounga 11. C.Clarke 12. J. Barrett 13. ALB. 14. Reece 15. BB

          Bench Aumua, Bower, Laulala, S. Barrett, Frizzell, TJP, Havaii, Telea.

          Sami T, Lomax,Ardie Savea, Aaron Smith and Reiko Ioane get the week off so they're good to go against England

          Doesn't make much sense to me to rest Taukieaho last week and then drop him all together this week.

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          #66

          @Bones said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

          @sparky said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

          I'd pick

          1. De Grott 2.Taylor 3. Ofa T 4. Vaii 5. Whitelock 6. A.Ioane 7 Papali'i 8. Sotutu 9. Weber 10. Mounga 11. C.Clarke 12. J. Barrett 13. ALB. 14. Reece 15. BB

          Bench Aumua, Bower, Laulala, S. Barrett, Frizzell, TJP, Havaii, Telea.

          Sami T, Lomax,Ardie Savea, Aaron Smith and Reiko Ioane get the week off so they're good to go against England

          Doesn't make much sense to me to rest Taukieaho last week and then drop him all together this week.

          Re Aumua. I am to think he's had issues with throwing. Is that correct? Otherwise I'm happy for him to come on in the impact role that ST occupied last week.

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          • boobooB booboo

            @Bones said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

            @sparky said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

            I'd pick

            1. De Grott 2.Taylor 3. Ofa T 4. Vaii 5. Whitelock 6. A.Ioane 7 Papali'i 8. Sotutu 9. Weber 10. Mounga 11. C.Clarke 12. J. Barrett 13. ALB. 14. Reece 15. BB

            Bench Aumua, Bower, Laulala, S. Barrett, Frizzell, TJP, Havaii, Telea.

            Sami T, Lomax,Ardie Savea, Aaron Smith and Reiko Ioane get the week off so they're good to go against England

            Doesn't make much sense to me to rest Taukieaho last week and then drop him all together this week.

            Re Aumua. I am to think he's had issues with throwing. Is that correct? Otherwise I'm happy for him to come on in the impact role that ST occupied last week.

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            taniwharugby
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            @booboo then he probably needs to start and ST off the bench, not ideal if we send ST into the English test off the back of 1 bench appearance in the previous 2 weeks.

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            • MiketheSnowM Offline
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              #68

              But do you want to beat England on the back of a loss to Scotland?

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              • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                But do you want to beat England on the back of a loss to Scotland?

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                @MiketheSnow you said that wont happen after the Scotland v Fiji game....

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                • boobooB booboo

                  @Bones said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

                  @sparky said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

                  I'd pick

                  1. De Grott 2.Taylor 3. Ofa T 4. Vaii 5. Whitelock 6. A.Ioane 7 Papali'i 8. Sotutu 9. Weber 10. Mounga 11. C.Clarke 12. J. Barrett 13. ALB. 14. Reece 15. BB

                  Bench Aumua, Bower, Laulala, S. Barrett, Frizzell, TJP, Havaii, Telea.

                  Sami T, Lomax,Ardie Savea, Aaron Smith and Reiko Ioane get the week off so they're good to go against England

                  Doesn't make much sense to me to rest Taukieaho last week and then drop him all together this week.

                  Re Aumua. I am to think he's had issues with throwing. Is that correct? Otherwise I'm happy for him to come on in the impact role that ST occupied last week.

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                  #70

                  @booboo said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

                  @Bones said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

                  @sparky said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

                  I'd pick

                  1. De Grott 2.Taylor 3. Ofa T 4. Vaii 5. Whitelock 6. A.Ioane 7 Papali'i 8. Sotutu 9. Weber 10. Mounga 11. C.Clarke 12. J. Barrett 13. ALB. 14. Reece 15. BB

                  Bench Aumua, Bower, Laulala, S. Barrett, Frizzell, TJP, Havaii, Telea.

                  Sami T, Lomax,Ardie Savea, Aaron Smith and Reiko Ioane get the week off so they're good to go against England

                  Doesn't make much sense to me to rest Taukieaho last week and then drop him all together this week.

                  Re Aumua. I am to think he's had issues with throwing. Is that correct? Otherwise I'm happy for him to come on in the impact role that ST occupied last week.

                  Aumua was excellent in the npc final. And mostly good throughout the npc. One off game was the Auckland semi

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                  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                    @MiketheSnow you said that wont happen after the Scotland v Fiji game....

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                    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

                    @MiketheSnow you said that wont happen after the Scotland v Fiji game....

                    If Townsend swallows his pride and selects Russell who knows what could happen

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                    • MiketheSnowM Offline
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                      #72

                      Feel free to move this to Foster

                      Been thinking about this whole coaching conundrum

                      As far as I’m concerned you pick the best 23 available to you every match

                      You can tinker with who starts and who finishes but you want your best charges present and correct at every opportunity

                      But how do you blood new players I hear you ask?

                      Ardie Savea is the best No 8 in the world at the moment

                      If Sotutu is chosen ahead of him based on merit not rotation then Sotutu can rightfully feel he’s possibly the best No 8 in the world

                      He’s trained day in day out with the best in the world (Savea) and been chosen ahead of him

                      That’s all he needs to perform

                      Not 10 minutes at the end of a match that’s already won against a side who are already beaten

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                      • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                        Feel free to move this to Foster

                        Been thinking about this whole coaching conundrum

                        As far as I’m concerned you pick the best 23 available to you every match

                        You can tinker with who starts and who finishes but you want your best charges present and correct at every opportunity

                        But how do you blood new players I hear you ask?

                        Ardie Savea is the best No 8 in the world at the moment

                        If Sotutu is chosen ahead of him based on merit not rotation then Sotutu can rightfully feel he’s possibly the best No 8 in the world

                        He’s trained day in day out with the best in the world (Savea) and been chosen ahead of him

                        That’s all he needs to perform

                        Not 10 minutes at the end of a match that’s already won against a side who are already beaten

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                        #73

                        @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

                        Feel free to move this to Foster

                        Been thinking about this whole coaching conundrum

                        As far as I’m concerned you pick the best 23 available to you every match

                        You can tinker with who starts and who finishes but you want your best charges present and correct at every opportunity

                        But how do you blood new players I hear you ask?

                        Ardie Savea is the best No 8 in the world at the moment

                        If Sotutu is chosen ahead of him based on merit not rotation then Sotutu can rightfully feel he’s possibly the best No 8 in the world

                        He’s trained day in day out with the best in the world (Savea) and been chosen ahead of him

                        That’s all he needs to perform

                        Not 10 minutes at the end of a match that’s already won against a side who are already beaten

                        Alldritt is very close.

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                        • ARHSA Offline
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                          I just hope that Telea Harmon and Aumua get some time this weekend after missing the AB XV v La Rochelle XV match. OK if that is from the bench.

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                            #75

                            https://mobile.twitter.com/Scotlandteam/status/1589582279180812289

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                            • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                              Feel free to move this to Foster

                              Been thinking about this whole coaching conundrum

                              As far as I’m concerned you pick the best 23 available to you every match

                              You can tinker with who starts and who finishes but you want your best charges present and correct at every opportunity

                              But how do you blood new players I hear you ask?

                              Ardie Savea is the best No 8 in the world at the moment

                              If Sotutu is chosen ahead of him based on merit not rotation then Sotutu can rightfully feel he’s possibly the best No 8 in the world

                              He’s trained day in day out with the best in the world (Savea) and been chosen ahead of him

                              That’s all he needs to perform

                              Not 10 minutes at the end of a match that’s already won against a side who are already beaten

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                              #76

                              @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

                              Feel free to move this to Foster

                              Been thinking about this whole coaching conundrum

                              As far as I’m concerned you pick the best 23 available to you every match

                              You can tinker with who starts and who finishes but you want your best charges present and correct at every opportunity

                              But how do you blood new players I hear you ask?

                              Ardie Savea is the best No 8 in the world at the moment

                              If Sotutu is chosen ahead of him based on merit not rotation then Sotutu can rightfully feel he’s possibly the best No 8 in the world

                              He’s trained day in day out with the best in the world (Savea) and been chosen ahead of him

                              That’s all he needs to perform

                              Not 10 minutes at the end of a match that’s already won against a side who are already beaten

                              this is absolutely my opinion on "rotation" as well.

                              with the slight caveat that at times, the best 23 for a weekend might be slightly different to the weekend before depending on who we are playing, or the fatigue status of a player

                              Also, i don't think Savea is the best #8 in the world. Though he is the best A Savea in the world. And i have become comfortable with that. The coaches are just letting him roam around the field doing what he wants. He's not a 7, he's not an 8, he's not a 6. He just does shit. And that's pretty cool, because right now he is the difference maker in the pack. Build the other two loosies around him, and let him do his thing.

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                              • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                https://mobile.twitter.com/Scotlandteam/status/1589582279180812289

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                                @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

                                https://mobile.twitter.com/Scotlandteam/status/1589582279180812289

                                Great news.

                                Scotland by 50

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                                • C cgrant

                                  @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

                                  Feel free to move this to Foster

                                  Been thinking about this whole coaching conundrum

                                  As far as I’m concerned you pick the best 23 available to you every match

                                  You can tinker with who starts and who finishes but you want your best charges present and correct at every opportunity

                                  But how do you blood new players I hear you ask?

                                  Ardie Savea is the best No 8 in the world at the moment

                                  If Sotutu is chosen ahead of him based on merit not rotation then Sotutu can rightfully feel he’s possibly the best No 8 in the world

                                  He’s trained day in day out with the best in the world (Savea) and been chosen ahead of him

                                  That’s all he needs to perform

                                  Not 10 minutes at the end of a match that’s already won against a side who are already beaten

                                  Alldritt is very close.

                                  MN5M Offline
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                                  #78

                                  @cgrant said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

                                  @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

                                  Feel free to move this to Foster

                                  Been thinking about this whole coaching conundrum

                                  As far as I’m concerned you pick the best 23 available to you every match

                                  You can tinker with who starts and who finishes but you want your best charges present and correct at every opportunity

                                  But how do you blood new players I hear you ask?

                                  Ardie Savea is the best No 8 in the world at the moment

                                  If Sotutu is chosen ahead of him based on merit not rotation then Sotutu can rightfully feel he’s possibly the best No 8 in the world

                                  He’s trained day in day out with the best in the world (Savea) and been chosen ahead of him

                                  That’s all he needs to perform

                                  Not 10 minutes at the end of a match that’s already won against a side who are already beaten

                                  Alldritt is very close.

                                  France have always had some of my favourite number 8s. Harinordiquay, Chabal, Picamoles……what a bunch of talented psychos.

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                                  • MN5M MN5

                                    @cgrant said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

                                    @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

                                    Feel free to move this to Foster

                                    Been thinking about this whole coaching conundrum

                                    As far as I’m concerned you pick the best 23 available to you every match

                                    You can tinker with who starts and who finishes but you want your best charges present and correct at every opportunity

                                    But how do you blood new players I hear you ask?

                                    Ardie Savea is the best No 8 in the world at the moment

                                    If Sotutu is chosen ahead of him based on merit not rotation then Sotutu can rightfully feel he’s possibly the best No 8 in the world

                                    He’s trained day in day out with the best in the world (Savea) and been chosen ahead of him

                                    That’s all he needs to perform

                                    Not 10 minutes at the end of a match that’s already won against a side who are already beaten

                                    Alldritt is very close.

                                    France have always had some of my favourite number 8s. Harinordiquay, Chabal, Picamoles……what a bunch of talented psychos.

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                                    @MN5 said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

                                    @cgrant said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

                                    @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

                                    Feel free to move this to Foster

                                    Been thinking about this whole coaching conundrum

                                    As far as I’m concerned you pick the best 23 available to you every match

                                    You can tinker with who starts and who finishes but you want your best charges present and correct at every opportunity

                                    But how do you blood new players I hear you ask?

                                    Ardie Savea is the best No 8 in the world at the moment

                                    If Sotutu is chosen ahead of him based on merit not rotation then Sotutu can rightfully feel he’s possibly the best No 8 in the world

                                    He’s trained day in day out with the best in the world (Savea) and been chosen ahead of him

                                    That’s all he needs to perform

                                    Not 10 minutes at the end of a match that’s already won against a side who are already beaten

                                    Alldritt is very close.

                                    France have always had some of my favourite number 8s. Harinordiquay, Chabal, Picamoles……what a bunch of talented psychos.

                                    You ok Hun? You completely bypassed a chance to mention Cecillion.

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                                    • BonesB Bones

                                      @MN5 said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

                                      @cgrant said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

                                      @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

                                      Feel free to move this to Foster

                                      Been thinking about this whole coaching conundrum

                                      As far as I’m concerned you pick the best 23 available to you every match

                                      You can tinker with who starts and who finishes but you want your best charges present and correct at every opportunity

                                      But how do you blood new players I hear you ask?

                                      Ardie Savea is the best No 8 in the world at the moment

                                      If Sotutu is chosen ahead of him based on merit not rotation then Sotutu can rightfully feel he’s possibly the best No 8 in the world

                                      He’s trained day in day out with the best in the world (Savea) and been chosen ahead of him

                                      That’s all he needs to perform

                                      Not 10 minutes at the end of a match that’s already won against a side who are already beaten

                                      Alldritt is very close.

                                      France have always had some of my favourite number 8s. Harinordiquay, Chabal, Picamoles……what a bunch of talented psychos.

                                      You ok Hun? You completely bypassed a chance to mention Cecillion.

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                                      @Bones said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

                                      @MN5 said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

                                      @cgrant said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

                                      @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

                                      Feel free to move this to Foster

                                      Been thinking about this whole coaching conundrum

                                      As far as I’m concerned you pick the best 23 available to you every match

                                      You can tinker with who starts and who finishes but you want your best charges present and correct at every opportunity

                                      But how do you blood new players I hear you ask?

                                      Ardie Savea is the best No 8 in the world at the moment

                                      If Sotutu is chosen ahead of him based on merit not rotation then Sotutu can rightfully feel he’s possibly the best No 8 in the world

                                      He’s trained day in day out with the best in the world (Savea) and been chosen ahead of him

                                      That’s all he needs to perform

                                      Not 10 minutes at the end of a match that’s already won against a side who are already beaten

                                      Alldritt is very close.

                                      France have always had some of my favourite number 8s. Harinordiquay, Chabal, Picamoles……what a bunch of talented psychos.

                                      You ok Hun? You completely bypassed a chance to mention Cecillion.

                                      Good point. He fired more shots than any of them.

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                                      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                        @canefan for players like them it becomes more mental fatigue with the intensity levels rather than the physical side of it, in my opinion of course.

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                                        @taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

                                        @canefan for players like them it becomes more mental fatigue with the intensity levels rather than the physical side of it, in my opinion of course.

                                        Don't the French players have over 30 matches per season?

                                        In comparison we play just 14 games of Super Rugby each year, it's laughable.

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                                        • kiwi_expatK kiwi_expat

                                          @taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

                                          @canefan for players like them it becomes more mental fatigue with the intensity levels rather than the physical side of it, in my opinion of course.

                                          Don't the French players have over 30 matches per season?

                                          In comparison we play just 14 games of Super Rugby each year, it's laughable.

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                                          @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

                                          @taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

                                          @canefan for players like them it becomes more mental fatigue with the intensity levels rather than the physical side of it, in my opinion of course.

                                          Don't the French players have over 30 matches per season?

                                          Our guys play just 14 games of Super Rugby each year....

                                          Plus tests plus pre season plus any npc... bunch of softies that (spit) Foster let's them get away with.

                                          Geez the French are awesome.

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